Fans of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray - are you happy with your idol's season?

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  1. tennis_pro

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    As some jump to weird conclusions already after a couple of recent losses (Federer retirement - really?) we should just put things in perspective. As a Fed fan:

    - won the biggest tournament in the world
    - regained no 1 for a couple of months
    - keeps h2h even (in the last 4 meetings against the top 4 he's split the wins and losses)
    - won 3 Masters tournaments, the last time he's done that was way back in 2006 (!!)
    - won 6 titles

    Overall it's been way better than I expected, given his age. I wanted him to end the year ranked 1st too but let's get real here. Ending the year ranked 2nd is also great.

    I would be happy to hear what the other fans think, especially your thoughts on:
    -Nadal's long absence (he still dominated clay)
    -Murray's 1st major (yet not a lot of success in Masters)
    -Djokovic failing to defend most of his titles yet still ending year ranked 1st by quite some margin (that's what I expect at least)
     
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  2. RF20Lennon

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    As a fed fan!! Im seriously extremely happy!! I didnt think he could get the #1 back and he did!! If he wins WTF thatll just be mind boggling but overall extremely satisfied with fed
     
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    I've been content with Federer for years. He didn't have to win a 17th Slam tournament as far as I am concerned. I like the fact that he can hang with the younger players but obviously he comes in for unfair abuse/comparisons when the same players defeat him. In this context I think his retirement would be a relief for me.
     
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    Disappointed, because Nole clearly should have won at least one more slam.
     
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  5. kaku

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    What I liked about Murray's season:
    -First Major
    -Olympic Gold
    -Aggressive Murray
    -100x mentally stronger against top guys compared to previous years
    -Very close H2H this year against the probably YE #1
    -How he bounced back after losing the Wimbledon final
    -Way better forehand, he can now consistently take it up the line without having to spin it and have it land on the service line
    -I think he's making an effort to try and hit regular backhands on the defensive instead of slicing it the whole time

    What I didn't like:
    -No masters :(
    -A rather poor clay season compared to last year
    -Wimbledon Final
    -The recent Shanghai loss. I hope having 5 MPs to eventually lose doesn't affect him for the next couple of tournaments

    Overall, the positives far outweigh the negatives. He can't win them all, and winning a slam + OG is a fantastic year in anybody's book. Best season for Murray, obviously my favorite too :)

    Also, hiring Ivan Lendl was the biggest and best decision he made in his entire career. Things weren't looking so good after the AO, but just as Murray himself said, the results would show around Wimbledon time, and voila, he gets to a W Final, wins OG, and wins the USO
     
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  6. Steve0904

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    I totally agree with this. I couldn't be happier with Fed's season. He didn't even need to win a 17th major, but I'm glad he did, and got back to #1 at his age just to shut everybody up who said he'd never do either of those things again. The truth is, I never understand why he gets so much abuse for losing to any of the other top 3 nowadays. Particularly annoying is the retirement talk after a loss. He's not even supposed to be hanging with these guys, yet he's taken the #1 ranking away from Djokovic in his prime, and won a major, basically proving the weak era argument null and void.
     
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  7. batz

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    Couldn't have put it better mate. This is the first time since 2007 that he's failed to win an MS (I'm assuming he doesn't play Paris) - but I wouldn't swap his 1 slam win for all 9 MS and the WTF. Been by far Murray's best season.
     
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  8. All-rounder

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    I said at the beginning of the year Murray would win either the US open or Wimbledon.

    He made it to the finals of Wimbledon and picked up his first major at US open. The gold medal is just icing on the cake.
     
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  9. Clarky21

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    Nope. My fav hasn't even played since June. His season was a colassal flop.
     
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  10. kaku

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    Agreed, but i guess winning OG feels like winning a Masters and then some :).

    I think he'll play Basel without the full intention of winning it, pull out of Paris, and then meet up with Ivan to make his final push for a London WTF title
     
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  11. batz

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    Bit harsh. Won one slam, could easily have won another.
     
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    I'm happy :) I would have like to have seen Federer win that Olympic Gold medal, and Murray and Robson to take the doubles Gold, but otherwise their seasons have been brilliant.

    Although I watched Wimbledon and have downloaded or watched some of his past matches on Youtube, I wasn't able to see any of Federer's dominance during his best years. This year, in particular the Spring/Summer, has been a nice taster of how things went for him, and I'm glad I was able to see it.

    I'm also thrilled of course to see Murray win a slam at last. Plus, having reached the finals of 3 of the 4, and the semi at the 4th, I can see great things to come for Murray in future too.
     
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    Whilst it is disappointing when your favourite player is unable to play, he is mine also, his season doesn't shape up too badly when compared to the other three.

    Djokovic 1 slam, 3 masters,1 500

    Federer 1 slam, 3 masters, 2 500's

    Murray 1 slam. 1 250 and Olympic Gold

    Nadal 1 slam, 2 masters, 1 500.
     
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  14. TheF1Bob

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    No just for the fact Novak hasn't delivered in the big matches post AO which is a darn shame considering he's consistent as hell in making these semis/finals.

    Saying that, if he had won the french or the USO, that would of changed my mindset big time.
     
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  15. forzamilan90

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    Yeah, scored another Wimbledon and broke the #1 record...that's just good stuff
     
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    It's still a flop when you think about how he was leading the points race up until his injury. He maybe could have finished the year at #1 if not for being injury prone.
     
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    Grandpa Fed winning a 17th major at Wimbledon, Olympic Silver, 3 masters and getting the world No 1 , when the other top 3 are at age 24-26 in their prime, spanking Nole and Rafa to 6-0 sets, fabulous year in all.

    Everything after major No 15 are all a bonus and this year further distanced Federer from all the great tennis players of all eras.
     
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  18. Mainad

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    Steady on! He won 1 Slam (a record 7th FO) and fought a close 5 setter in the final of another (AO). Plus he won 2 more Masters 1000s (MC and Rome). It's only since the Wimbledon debacle that his season came to an abrupt and premature end. But he achieved far more in the 1st half than anybody else not named Federer or Djokovic.

    Not the greatest season by Rafa's colossally high standards, but hardly 'a colossal flop' either! :confused:
     
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    As a Murray fan, I think his season has been a strange and topsy-turvy one. Mostly exhilarating with a few disappointments thrown in.

    Exhilarating:

    Winning his first Grand Slam title,the Olympic gold medal and making his first Wimbledon final.

    Disappointing:

    His performance in the Masters series. Losing his only 2 finals and failing to convert FIVE match points in the second! Failing to get past the early rounds of most of the others.

    His failure to convert a match point in the semi-final of Tokyo.

    What is it with Murray failing to win matches he should have won this season? :(

    But of course, the exhilarating bits greatly outweigh the disappointing bits! :)
     
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  20. 90's Clay

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    If you're a Fed fan you HAVE to be happy.. You manage a record tying Wimbledon with Sampras and you regain the #1 spot.. Whats there not to be happy about?


    If you're a Murray fan.. You are happy, that Murray finally gets the slam monkey off his back. That was the main thing he needed.. A slam.. These Masters events..Ehhh Murray has enough of those.


    If you're a Nadal fan you should be disappointed (barring get the French Open title).. Another year, more injuries
     
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  21. TMF

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    Of the 4 players, I believe Murray fans are the happiest because he FINALLY won a slam + gold medal. Fed fans are the 2nd happiest because he won Wimbledon + break the Sampras's 286 weeks at #1. While there's more expectation from Nole this year, but he did win a slam and it looks like he will end the year #1. I'm not sure Nadal fans(in general) are happy because he hasn't played since Wimbledon, but he did break Borg's record by winning 7th FO. So there are some fans that are not highly demanding from Nadal are happy for him.

    This year marks the first time that all 4 players have done something that their fans can say they are happy. Unlike in the past years, it's either one player had tremendous success and the others were disappointing. Congratulation to all the players and their fans.
     
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  22. veroniquem

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    I am uberhappy with Nadal's season on clay. It was all the more important as he had lost 2 main events to Djoko on clay in 2011. Reclaiming total superiority on the surface this year was a must and the way he did it was awesome. Of course everything off clay, I'll try to forget as fast as possible but the clay triumph makes up for the gloom and doom elsewhere. I am also glad Murray won a slam, I think he deserved it (and Olympics in front of his home crowd) and in Rafa's absence, I hope Djoko will finish the season at #1, I think he's had the best season overall (among the top 4).
     
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    They are the LEAST happiest of the 4. Nadal broke Borg's record and solidify him as a clay goat.

    Since you are not a fan of any of the 4 players, are you happy? Disappointed?
     
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  24. 90's Clay

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    Pretty disappointed.. I wanted Nadal around to shake things up a bit.. I can't stomach Djoker-Murray matches.. They bore me to death.
     
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    As a nadal fan I'm satisfied (probably more neutral) to be honest, he set a record at the FO, won 2 masters and extended his record at monte carlo to 8 wins there as well as battling it out in the AO final despite the loss in the end. The disappointment of course is him losing in the second round at Wimbledon then missing the second half of the season, but overall this year in tennis has been good with the top 4 all winning 1 slam, Team GB doing well at the olympics with murray's gold in the singles so i'm not too disappointed, I just hope next year is good for him.
     
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  26. TMF

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    The final they just played was a great match, how could one can't enjoy it.:confused: It was much better than the two semifinals(Fed/Murray, Nole/Berdych).
     
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  27. NDFM

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    I really worry about how long he'll be playing tennis, he already took a long break in february, then withdrew in Miami and now missed the second half of 2012. I'm not sure he can bounce back to top form, if he does it will take a while
     
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  28. 90's Clay

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    I will never like Murray's game in general.. He always seems to beat himself in those types of matches. Thats why the USO surprised me so much. I thought for sure Murray was going to choke that away just like he did today. I think the only reason Murray held on at the USO was because of Nole's cramps.

    Today showed the TRUE Murray. What he really is. A choke artist in those big pressure situations on the big stage
     
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  29. veroniquem

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    I would add to the disappointment list the excruciating loss to Djoko in AO (after leading by a break in the 5th ), the Miami withdrawal and the IW debacle. To me, everything off clay was a fiasco this season (AO less so because he reached the final ) but everything on clay was perfect, which is a significant progress over 2011. The injuries are just majorly frustrating.
     
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  30. batz

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    You're darn tootin'! :)

    Funny thing is, I celebrated the OG win more:confused: - USO was more of a numbing feeling. I still have moments when I wonder if it actually happened. Was pretty disappointing to see him miss 5 MP today, then I remembered the USO, smiled, and was happy for Novak.
     
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    I know it's led to withdrawal after withdrawal of the top tournaments and false hope coming from his camp, especially Toni, after he said he'll play the DC semi, WTF and DC final I was like please stop, think about what your saying before you release such info to the press
     
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  32. kaku

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    Thanks for reminding me of the USO win, I feel better already :).

    Actually, I'm more concerned about what this loss means for Murray's upcoming tournaments. Maybe I'm a Murrayphobe and over-thinking it but I don't want to see another slump :(
     
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    You're being unfair. He came out playing aggressively in the final set and quickly went up a break. He himself said afterwards that he came out determined to fight the last set down to the wire if need be. Djokovic only started cramping towards the end of that final set when he was already under all kinds of pressure from Murray's aggressive serves and returns. So let's give Murray credit where it's due. I'm surprised you didn't throw in the wind factor for good measure.

    So how come he won not only his first Slam but the Olympic gold medal this year and how come he's won 8 other Masters titles including 3 of them against Djokovic in the final and 2 against Federer? If he's such a choker, how come he managed to win all those? The stats hardly back up your statement, do they?
     
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  34. 90's Clay

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    Murray hasn't beaten Fed at a slam yet still. Fed is also getting old. Yes I could throw in the wind factor of course.. (Would Murray have even beaten Berdych at Flushing without the wind? I don't know. Its possible he would have lost)

    The finals vs. Djoker was a rare occurrence in what Murray did under pressure. But needless to say, he also blew a 2 set lead dont forget and Djoker got cramps at the end.

    Then also, the fact that Nadal isn't around.. One other guy who destroys Murray at slams.
     
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    I feel the same way. I like watching Nadal the most, but I was pumped when Andy won the OG against Federer. USO...not so much, and I watched both matches too.
     
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  36. TMF

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    You expect too much and that's why you're disappointed. High maintenance girls want perfection, that's why they are never happy.

    If Nole fans are perfectionist, they would be disappointed because he lost to Nadal at the FO. LOL

    Don't be so demanding.
     
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  37. underground

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    If you are talking about success month-wise it would be:

    January: Djokovic
    February: Federer
    March: Federer-Djokovic
    April: Nadal
    May: Federer-Nadal
    June: Nadal
    July: Federer
    August: Murray-Djokovic-Federr
    September: Murray
    October: Djokovic
    November: Probably Federer

    Overall as a Fed fan I'm definitely happy with the season, especially when you had that crappy 2011 (bar the indoor season).
     
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  38. veroniquem

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    Exactly. After the W loss, they made it sound like Rafa would still participate in the Olympics, then he withdrew and they claimed he would be ready for Cincy but of course he didn't come back for Cincy, yet still left hope for USO. Once USO didn't happen either, they started promising DC but hey surprise, surprise: no DC. After that it was, maybe end of the year and then maybe January. How do I know if in January, they won't come up with "oops maybe February"? That cat and mouse game is getting on my nerves big time. I would really have appreciated it if they had made ONE announcement, just one, saying: "due to the nature of the injury, we have no idea when Rafa can return. We'll let you know when he resumes practising" That's it, basta, finito, no need for anything else. Right now, they keep saying Rafa will start practising in 10 days or 15 days and they change their version every week and I am just totally exasperated with the situation + I don't believe a word they say anymore. So maddening, don't like the way they're handling this 1 bit.
     
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  39. beast of mallorca

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    I am deeply disappointed with Nadal's season. I fully expected him to win the Calendar Year Grand Slam of 2012 and 2013 !!!!
    Well, I have to be contented with one then ! Congrats next year Rafa, for winning the 2013 Calendar Year Grand Slam :twisted:
     
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    Nole didn't just lose to Rafa at RG, he lost to him at Monte-Carlo and Rome as well. Still, he can have the satisfaction of having made 3 big clay finals. Unfortunately, Rafa doesn't have that kind of satisfaction to fall back on this year on hard and grass. Only 1 final off clay, that's a terrible result by his standards and no I'm not a perfectionist, I was among the few ones who praised Rafa's 2011 for his consistency and high # of finals reached throughout but 2012 was all clay. Perfectionist or not, the rest was the worst it's ever been for him bar the AO final. Hopefully 2013 will be better.
     
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  41. PeteD

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    I'm very happy with the one and only idol, Fed. People are actually praying to him in some places, although in the scene below, the sculptor screwed up and made him look more like Youzhny:

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    I feel your pain. Fed's 2010 was just like that.
     
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    I thought he was playing awful, stinking up the joint, mugging it up and had no chance to get beyond the second week of slams, no chance of winning titles etc? But you reckon he could have number one? See this is what you really think. you were hoping Nadal would be the number one and all that "Nadal will never win a title" stuff was crap. Lol if i had said "Nadal is leading the race, if he stays injury free he could be year end number one!" you would have laughed your butt off... or pretended to.

    Dunno how you imagine Nadal would have kept the lead through Harcourt season mugging it up like he has been anyway..
     
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  44. Towser83

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    Well between federer and djokovic you have 2 slams and so far 6 out of 8 masters. so yes very happy. would have preferred fed or djokovic to win the us open or djokovic winning the French but still looking like they will have had the best season, just edging out Murray and Nadal.
     
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  45. R.Federer

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    im ecstastic federer proving the doubters wrong, murray finally winning a slam which should let him play more freely now and i have seen this and joker winning a slam and being so consistant its been a great year the top 3 are my favs so happy all round
     
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    It's also quite possible he would have beaten Berdych in straight sets but for the wind. After all, he had just converted a break point in the 1st set when the wind blew his cap off, they re-played the point and Murray then lost it and subsequently the set. I never cease to be amused at this quaint notion that the wind only managed to affect Berdych's game! :)

    But he didn't blow the final set, which was the most important one, did he?
    And as I've just pointed out, Djokovic didn't start cramping until the final couple of games when he was already a break down and under all kinds of pressure from Murray's serves and returns.

    But Nadal wasn't around and his absence impacted on all the players, especially the top ones, not just Murray and don't forget that the USO is one of the Slams where Murray has beaten Nadal. They are 1-1 there. You can only ever play who is in front of you and that's true for everybody else.
     
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  47. JadeC

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    Disappointed with Novak's FO lost and pretty much his whole clay season. Despite being in 3 clay court finals, he wasn't impressive. Not medaling at the Olympics was rough and not defending the USO was indeed a sad loss. After the USO, I just wanted him to end the year at #1, which is looking pretty good at the moment. If he does get the year-end #1, then I'm satisfied with his season, not exactly happy.
     
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  48. Tony48

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    If Djoker finishes No. 1 then I'll be extremely happy; he will have repeated his YE rank from last year. The last time someone was the YE No. 1 for two straight years was back in 2007 when Federer was completing four straight years as the YE No. 1.

    Not all No. 1s have accomplished this.
     
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  49. Agassifan

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    Of course Fed and Murray fans have to be over the moon happy. Rafa and Nole fans, not so much.
     
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  50. 90's Clay

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    Nole didn't really have a bad season though outside of the clay season.. But thats to be expected.. He isn't all that great on clay
     
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