faster clay?

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  1. BullDogTennis

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    so im watching the querrey and gulbis match, and it seems to be playing pretty fast. and i saw the stat where that one dude had somethin like 55 aces in one match? and lost? i've been watchin the french for several years, and may have just missed it, but is it playin faster this year? or have i just been missin it?

    also listening to the comentators all saying its playing fast.
     
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  2. T1000

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    Its because of high humidity and temperatures
     
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    Question is will it last for the two weeks?
     
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    Oh well if they can't speed up wimbledon then let them speed up RG i'm still satisfied
     
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  5. BullDogTennis

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    its 81 degrees! if thats "hot" then wow. you guys dont know hot. (idk what the humidity is)

    heres for the rest of the weeks temperatures for paris.
    Monday: high 83 Low 58
    Tuesday: high 63 Low 48 **calling for rain
    Wendsday: high 66 Low 48
    Thursday: high 71 Low 52
    Friday: high 74 Low 54

    looks like its gonna cool off the rest of the week.
     
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    fed needs to hope so.
     
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    Probably mostly the big servers: kendrick, karlovic, gulbis, querrey. Commentators are saying heat has something to do with it too.
     
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    Hopefully the temperatures cool down soon. Though I doubt it would make that much of a difference. We need some wind as well.
     
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    Just saying what the announcers said. 81 isn't hot at all but I think the main factor is humidity
     
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    Humidity is supposed to slow it down.
     
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  11. BullDogTennis

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    i mean, lets think about it, if its humid doesnt that mean theres a lot of moisture in the air? and if theres a lot of moisture in the air wouldnt it be harder for the balls to travel through the air quickly? just what i'd think, no idea if its a true theory.
     
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    lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
     
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    And by we, you mean Nadal, right? It only looks fast b/c Gulbis, Querrey are two big hitters who don't play classic cc tennis. And, Karlovic going vs. anybody is gonna have a lot of aces, b/c Karlovic is a big server and bad returner.
     
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    It was 24°C maybe hotter and the forcast for monday is as high as 30°C....The conditions are far more warmer then one would expect for this time of the year. The FO is usually played in overcast, cool conditions.
     
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    Who, exactly, are "we"?
     
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    Everytime i read a Nadal_Freak i start laughing my ass off..
    Seriously.. This guy should be hired by Nadal Entourage to argue with Wilander at Game-Set-Mats @ Eurosport lol
     
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    Only the outside courts.
     
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    Only a complete and utter ****** could possibly want wind. No tennis player wants wind. Totally ridiculous.
     
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    A slight breeze would be nice. 5 km/h.
     
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  20. Cesc Fabregas

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    I don't think the clay is faster because

    A). It was very hot always quickens up the courts
    B). Alot of big servers and agressive players played today
     
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    I think we know what's coming next.

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    It is pretty hot compared to average temperatures in Paris, France, at this time of year. It doesn't make any sense to compare it to anything else.
     
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    I'm not sure about tennis, but I do know that baseballs tend to fly further in more humid weather.
     
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    LOL. This is soooooooooooo funny. :D
     
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    I haven't seen Nadal fans this nervous in a really long time. :D
     
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    Thats around 27 degrees celsius which is HOT for the UK, Ireland/Paris area......Paris has very similar weather to Ireland and the UK....similar, not the same but similar....and for us, that is HOT... VERY HOT. lol. Maybe not for you Aussies and Americanos.
     
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    They will again in like 3 years time
     
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    81 degrees (farenheiht) is very mild. the US open will be up in the 100's thats prob one reason why it plays so fast.
     
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    I could be wrong, but my understanding is that high humidity would slow the ball down. Thicker air, or something like that.
     
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    He's right. 81 degrees is beautiful, perfect weather. I live in the central valley in CA, and let me tell you...if I could play tennis in 81 degree weather every day, I'd be perfectly happy.
     
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    Well, it does in a sense...If the average temperature in some small town in Russia is -12 degrees, would 40 be an extremely hot day? Well, no...It really only makes sense to think about it all in absolute terms. And truthfully, 81 degrees is NOT that hot. It might be hotter than usual, but it is definitely not hot enough to really make playing THAT uncomfortable.

    From what I saw, the weather looked very, very nice.
     
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    It's been already comfirmed by the TT crew, they are using red grass.
     
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  33. BullDogTennis

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    your saying it matters that there in paris or whatever, but does the ball care if there in paris playin in 81 degree weather, or playin in new york city in 81 degree weather? i mean the fact is the courts *seemed* to be playing fast. weather its an illusion because of the players goin for it all or what, it still seems to be fast.
     
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    We are comparing normal Paris conditions with current Paris conditions. In normal Paris conditions it would be cooler than it is now, hence the ball would move slower than it currently is, so for this particular tournament the conditions are faster than normal.
     
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  35. BullDogTennis

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    what are the normal paris conditions?
     
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  36. ninman

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    For this time of year, probably 15-20 C.
     
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    The clay did seem to be playing faster than usual. It's been dry in Paris. I wonder if they're watering them less in an effort to speed up play.
     
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    I like red grass!
     
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    If it stays fast like this Nadal is getting bounced
     
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    I was wondering the same thing as well.
     
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    I agree, looks fast to me...... just have to wait how nadal fares to the surface....
     
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    Luckily Nadal doesn't have to play on the show courts. They play much faster than Chatrier or Lenglen. I have no idea why the courts play so much different.
     
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  43. OliverSimon

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    Ya! Chatrier seemed to play relatively slow today during Simons match
     
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    Learn your tennis terms...Chatrier and Lenglen (along with court 1) are the show courts!

    You mean the outside courts.
     
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  45. Nadal_Freak

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    Yes so we should have everything in perfect condition. How about indoors so the sun can't have any effect on that match. Having wind makes it so you got to play the percentages more and not trying to get out of the point so quickly. It also bothers servers. I just like points constructed that way over the easy way out style.
     
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    Nah. What the pros do is enough for me. I enjoyed that Nadal/Murray match in Indian Wells btw. Now that was some interesting conditions.
     
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    This lead to Murray's downfall...
     
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    Yeah Murray relies a lot on his serve. Conditions like that make it so you have to play the point out rather then by aces.
     
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