Fat Burning Supplements

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  1. dbernie41

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    I saw alot of threads about fat burning but none about supplements. So... does anyone know of any SAFE supplements that actually work?
     
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  2. Fee

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    Yes, but they only work if you ride a bike to the store to purchase them.
     
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  3. dave333

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    Drink green tea. Helps a little.

    Otherwise, their isn't a very healthy or effective way. Better to stick with good ol exercise and diet.

    No pain, no gain. Fat burning supplements are too easy, and like many things, too easy=ineffective or a gimmick.
     
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    I believe oranges have some sort of trigger to release fats into the blood, so they are good before a workout.
     
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  6. Ano

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    What if I told you that most of the fat reducing claims for green tea were absolute, total BS, based on misinterpretation or deliberate misreporting of the research?

    Unfortunately, it’s true.

    If you’ve bought green tea based on the claim that it causes large reductions in body fat, then you have been scammed.

    Here are the facts:

    Green tea DOES stimulate your metabolism.

    However, the research is unclear about what kind of impact this small, short term increase in metabolism will have on your bodyweight in the long term.

    In the most often quoted study (Dulloo, 1999), A swiss research team found that 270 mg of green tea extract 3X a day increased metabolic rate by the equivalent of about 79 calories on average and increased the oxidation of fat as the fuel source.

    If you do the math, it appears that 79 kcal a day would add up to an extra pound of fat lost every 44 days (in theory). Not much, but you’ll take it, right?

    Hypothetically, that would add up to an extra 8 pounds lost per year.

    What advertisements quoting this study don’t tell you is that this and other similar studies did not even measure long term change in body fat percentage or bodyweight. They only measured a 24- hour increase in energy expenditure.

    One study which is used as marketing ammunition to claim that wu-long tea burns 2.5 times more fat than green tea was based only on a 120-minute increase in energy expenditure! (reminds me of that Mark Twain quote: “There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics”)

    Numerous follow up studies have confirmed the short term increase in metabolism, but the studies are mixed on whether green tea improves weight reduction or maintenance in the long term.

    The research IS compelling, but not conclusive.

    As for ad claims that say you’ll lose a lot of weight just from drinking green tea… absolute BS!

    Hopefully the Federal Trade Commission will catch up with these scammers sooner rather than later, as the marketing messages on the Internet are getting louder and bolder every day.


    As for health benefits - green tea is certainly a champ.

    It’s high in antioxidants and there are more than 2,000 research citations about potential health benefits of green tea (not to mention a 5,000 year history of use in China and the far east).

    Even if you’re a skeptic, green tea is hard not to like and it’s hard to dispute that it’s a good idea to add green tea to your nutrition program as one part of a well-balanced fitness lifestyle.

    But when it comes to claims for large and rapid losses in bodyweight and bodyfat, (especially the wu-long tea ads that are currently all over the internet), buyer beware.

    The science we do have says that the thermogenic effect of green tea - while very real - is also very small.
     
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    thanks for the reality check, Ano!
     
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  8. The_Spartan

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    Supplements are unneccsary for fat burning.

    Eat 5 - 6 smaller meals a day, stay active (Duh, tennis), weight train at least 2 a week.

    Brun more Cals than you consume.
     
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    There are safe ways to trick your body into consuming less calories. More fiber and water in your diet can help in this respect. Another trick is to consume a small amount (about a handful) or walnuts, almonds, or pine nuts about 30 minutes before a meal. Doing so, should make you feel less hungry at meal time and consume less calories overall even tho' these nuts contain a fair amount of fat.

    Avoid supplements that use a diuretic or laxative effect to promote weight loss. Thermogenic herbs are something that people seek out to promote an increased metabolism. These includes caffeine (& caffeine-containing herbs), cayenne, and cinnamon. The thermogenic effect of these may actually be fairly limited.

    To obtain a significant thermogenic effect, an unsafe amount of thermogenic herbs may be required. Ephedra (Ma Huang) is a good case in point. For many people, a small amount of ephedra might be benefcial. However, ephedra has been seriously abused in the US. High levels of this can be very dangerous, particularly for those with heart conditions. Best to avoid this in anything but very limited quantities.

    There are some exotic foods/herbs such as Hoodia and Garcinia that are used for weight management. Unfortunately, I don't really know much about their effectiveness or safety -- best to do some diligent research on this on your own. Sometimes seaweed or kelp is used as a natural thyroid stimulant. Again, research before considering ingesting large amounts.

    To increase metabolism, it is much better to increase your lean muscle mass thru weight training rather than trying to increase it with high levels of thermogenic herbs. Conservative amounts of caffeine, cayenne or cinnamon are ok, just don't count on them to melt the body fat away.
     
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  10. TNT16

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    GREAT post LOL!!!
     
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  11. dave333

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    lol ano, I don't drink green tea for fat loss, I drink it cause I'm asian.
     
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    ive herd that it can affect the mitcochondria, how is this different from speeding the metabolsm?
     
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    Could not find any resources at all that talk about green tea and mitochondria. However, I did see more than 600 references to green tea and micochondria. I know nothing of this latter term & could not find sources that explained it. Anyone have any clues about this?
     
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    It's indicative of the contradictions in claims made for some supplements and nutrients that Ano asserts green tea increases metabolism, i.e. oxidation, yet the green tea dealers tout the antioxidant effects of green tea. Can we have it both ways? In advertising, of course we can.
     
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  15. SlapShot

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    I tried the original "fully leaded" (Ephedra-loaded) Xenadrine a few years back and dropped 15 pounds in 2 months. The only problem was the fact that after any sort of hard workout, I felt physically ill to the point of nearly passing out.

    Haven't tried the non-Ephedra products, but I have a feeling that the thermogenic effects are lessened without Ephedra.
     
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    With 2 months of regular exercise and slight modifications to your diet you should be able to lose two pounds a week/16 pounds anyway, so you could have saved your money.
     
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  17. SlapShot

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    Well, what I neglected to mention was the adding a gym regimen and cutting Mountain Dew from my diet. ;)

    That being said, I do feel that the Ephedra based thermogenic did help me drop body fat, but the risk of death kind of tempered my use.
     
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