Favorite player feuds?

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  1. Gonzalito17

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    This era there aren't many aside from Almagro-Berdych and Djokovic-Roddick but they have settled things it appears. But there used to be more bad blood between players - Woodforde-Ivanesivic talked some trash about each other. Williams-Spirlea. Hings vs. Mauresmo. Hingis vs. The Williams family. The Williams family vs. Indian Wells. McEnroe vs. Lendl. McEnroe and Connors. HEwitt vs the Argies, Chela and Coria got pretty intense. Coria and Gaudio had a row over fake injuries. To name a few. Let's talk about some of the best player fueds...
    I just read where Woodforde lost to Goran in three sets at the 98 US Open and said he had no game except for a serve and that he wouldn't pay to see him play. Goran countered that Woodforde was old and had a shi77y backhand, couldn't move and always talks bad about him for some reason. Then he tried to hit him and did and didn't apologize. Then Goran served an ace on the next point. WOnder what triggered those two to go at it with such venom. Anybody know?
     
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    Cash and Becker had a few handbag moments
     
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    Don't remember that one at all, do remember Becker and Stich playing that high stress match at Wimbledon on center court, that was a great match.
     
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    Becker vs. Cash was in 1988 mostly, when Becker wanted to beat defending Wimbledon champion, Cash. Cash didn't take kindly to Becker's diving, falling over the net and chatting up a lineswoman.

    A list of some tennis feuds
    Ilie Nastase vs. Clark Graebner
    Jimmy Connors vs. Arthur Ashe
    Jimmy Connors vs. John McEnroe
    Jimmy Connors vs. Ivan Lendl
    John McEnroe vs. Ivan Lendl
    Pat Cash vs. Ivan Lendl
    Jimmy Connors vs. Andre Agassi
    Ivan Lendl vs. Andre Agassi
    John McEnroe vs. Bill Scanlon
    John McEnroe vs. Brad Gilbert
    Andre Agassi vs. Pete Sampras
    Boris Becker vs. Michael Stich
    Vitas Gerulaitis vs. Wojtek Fibak
    Vitas Gerulaitis vs. Ivan Lendl
    Thomas Muster vs. Horst Skoff
    Thomas Muster vs. Brad Gilbert
    Thomas Muster vs. Andre Agassi
    Thomas Muster vs. Wayne Ferreira
    Thomas Muster vs. Jeff Tarango
    Thomas Muster vs. Felix Mantilla
    Thomas Muster vs. Pat Cash
    Horst Skoff vs. Pat Cash
    Alex Antonitsch vs. Pat Cash
    Guillermo Coria vs. Gaston Gaudio
    Patrick Rafter vs. Pete Sampras
    Jim Courier vs. Andre Agassi
    Boris Becker vs. Andre Agassi
    Michael Chang vs. Andre Agassi
    Lleyton Hewitt vs. Yevgeny Kafelnikov
    Lleyton Hewitt vs. Alex Corretja
    Lleyton Hewitt vs. David Nalbandian
    Lleyton Hewitt vs. Juan Ignacio Chela
    Lleyton Hewitt vs. Guillermo Coria
    Lleyton Hewitt vs. Jose Acasuso
    Marat Safin vs. Andy Roddick
    Andy Murray vs. Juan Martin del Potro
    David Nalbandian vs. Tim Henman
    Rafael Nadal vs. Tomas Berdych
    Rafael Nadal vs. Robin Soderling
     
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    Nice list Mustard, I do remember Hewitt-Corretja. Hewitt killed Corretja in the Aussie Open one year like 0 0 and 1. Just a blowout. Corretja whined about it then they played again indoors and Hewitt broke Corretja in the first game and YELLED COME ON! Corretja was very pist off. Good stuff. Hewitt was rubbing it in a lil but hey, that's his fire, that's the way he plays, tough luck if you don't like it.
     
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    You mention a lot of feuds I wish we could hear more details about a lot of these. Great list.
     
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    I don't remember Lendl v Agassi.
    I do recall Lendl describing the early incarnation of Agassi as a "haircut and a forehand".
    Can someone enlighten me on this one please?
     
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    emmm, that Roddick and Safin. Andy was mainly jealous of Safin's handsome good looks, and that was about it.
     
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    David Wheaton vs. Brad Gilbert

    Totally thought they were gonna throw down, lol
     
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    I heard about that too, kinda ironic considering that Andre developed maybe the best backhand ever.
     
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    Ashe had a feud with connors??? when did this happen?
     
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    I had a hard time believing the Muster-Agassi feud was over a pat on the cheek and ruffling of the hair but I'll be damned if what started out a cordial meeting at the net ended with a death stare from Agassi.

    Seemed like an affectionate gesture on Muster's part but maybe he was trying to be disrespectful? Either way that's one of my all time favorite matches.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARAmugAt7GI
     
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    My favourite was Lendl V Mc.
    Their dislike for each other was exacerbated by their wildly different personalities and their contrasting playing styles.
    Thus there were those wonderful moments when the S/Ver got nailed at the net by the baseliner.
    Wonderful drama.
     
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    Also good to see Lleyton taking on the Argentinians en masse. :)
     
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    Ancic and Capdeville clearly didn't like each other much:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbEzF3y6bUk

    The Hewitt vs Argentinian player feud in 2005-2006 was a lot of fun.

    I agree about Lendl-McEnroe. That is personally my favourite open era rivalry because it had everything, hatred, tension, drama, classic matches, many big matches at the most important events, swings in momentum between the two players etc.
     
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    Absolutely.
    Though I do wish a few more of their biggest encounters were closer.
    That would have been the icing on the cake.
     
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    story i heard was that Agassi was wearing a hair piece at the time, him going bald, and he thought that Muster was trying to expose that fact.
    don´t know if there´s truth to it
     
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    Yes you are right too many of their matches at the bigger tournaments were straight set victories for the winner.

    In their Wimbledon semi in 1983 Mac was playing out of this world, and very few players in tennis history could have coped with him playing that well on grass. At that stage Lendl was pretty helpless against a far superior Mac on grass.

    In their RG quarter-final in 1981, Lendl began his first period of completely dominating and overpowering Mac, and that stage Lendl was streets ahead of Mac on clay, red or green.

    However at the US Open and Masters where both players were strong on the surfaces and comfortable with the settings, I wish their matches would have been more competitive. 4 out of their 5 US Open matches (including both finals) and all 4 of their Masters matches (including 3 finals) finished in straight sets.

    A 5 set thriller in a US Open match and/or Masters final, to go with their classic 1984 RG and 1983 Dallas finals, would have made their rivalry even more special.
     
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    Yes, some close, tension-filled matches would have put them under more pressure and that could have led to some interesting and volatile reactions, particularly from Mc.
    There could have been some wonderful drama.
     
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    Federer vs Djokovic's parents. :)
     
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    nice list.

    here's a link with the "tennis lesson" between hewitt and kafelnikov:
    http://www.angelfire.com/ak3/Lleyton/Article18.html
    ;)

    and what about crazy danny vs the rest of the world ? :rolleyes:
     
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    Ashe not a real feud......Conners just had issues with Ashe's goody two shoes personality and temperament.....no real feud.
     
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    1. Rios and EVERYBODY else

    2. McEnroe v Scanlon......real hate and lack of respect from both sides. JMac and Scanlon still talk crap about each other.....a classic.
     
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    Becker and Agassi was a good rivalry too, read that Brooke Shields would heckle Becker at some of their US Open matches. Agassi also said he lost to Chang because he would rather lose to Chang than to Becker who he was due to play next round one year at the US Open. INteresting comments by Agassi, how he'd prefer to lose to certain players as opposed to other players.
     
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    Rios certainly had some enemies. In the Rios book titled "Marcelo Rios: The Man We Barely Knew" Todd Woodbridge said that other players got up to play Rios, that they had extra incentive because of what an arrogant *****k he was. Gambill said Rios tried to stare him down in the player lounge before one match. But Rios also got along with certain other players like Berastegui, Koubek, Vicente, Lapentti, Di Pasquale, Joyce, Bjorkman, Henman, T Johansson, Spadea, Dent, Magnus Norman, etc. who all said they liked him and got along okay with him.
     
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    Looks like a friendly gesture to me. Seems like Agassi was a little paranoid...
     
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    Ashe called Conners unpatriotic for not playing Davis Cup. Connors responded with a $5 million libel suit. They both were quoted as wanting to beat the crap out of the other guy... off the court. It was a real feud.
     
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    Pancho Gonzales vs whoever he was playing
     
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    Joe is there any detailed books about Pancho out there? With details about his fueds and battles with other players?
     
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    Meth does that to you...

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    Nastase also had either semi or full-on feuds with Ashe, Tanner and Hans-Jurgen Pohmann.

    During their opening RR match of the 1975 Masters in Stockholm, Ashe had enough of Nastase's antics and racial abuse, and walked off the court. He was officially disqualified, but later so was Nastase.

    However on other occasions, Ashe publicly defended Nastase, like after the 1976 WCT Challenge Cup final, when he had called him a bloody n*****.

    He had an altercation with Pohmann in the locker-room after their 1976 US Open match, who he had spat at and labelled as Hitler.

    And he had a confrontation with Tanner at the next during their 1974 US Open match.
     
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    Brad Gilbert and David Wheaton nearly came to blows at the net during their 1990 Grand Slam Cup, pushing each other and having to be separated by the officials.

    Gilbert earned about 20% of his entire career prize money during that one week.
     
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    Noah and Pecci
    Connors and Tanner
     
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    Conners sued Ashe from $3million in 1975. It wasn't that Ashe was a goody two shoes as much as Conners being a real arse.
     
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    JMcEnroe and Scott Davis had a near fight after a doubles match on grandstand at the US Open. Davis supposedly had to be restrained after.
     
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    Heard Roddick berated Djokovic to such an extreme point of abuse after their US Open QF night match in 09 that Djokovic was crying literally crying. Total physical humiliation. Took Djok over a year to recover actually.
     
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    "Man with a Racket" is a great book from Panchos perspective and "The Game" is from Kramers perspective as an opponent and tour organizer who had to deal with trying to get Pancho to play tours. I have heard lots of stories about how Pancho battled all the guys he played and encountered during tournaments. He also had six wives showing that even marriage was a battle for Pancho.
     
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    Gonzales and Hoad were good friends off court, they travelled together in the same car, played pool together, drank together, etc. all on the cheap motel circuit. Sound like fun?
    There was one report, however, that Hoad was angry that his wife found Gonzales to be charming.
     
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    Two very charming guys fighting for women´s attention???
     
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    I'd be curious how the tennis millionaires of today would handle the cheap motel circuit.
     
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    They´d probably buy it so to acommodate their many agents, under agents, free lance agents and outsourcing agents....
     
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