Favourite 90'

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  1. Povl Carstensen

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    I am on a quest to find the one of my approx. 90' rackets I really, really like the best. I have: Vac 90 Pro, Prestige, PSO, PSC, Yonex RD ti 70, MW100, HM100, Redondo, ROK, K90, BLX6.1, Head Graphite Pro, DunlopMAX200G and Volkl tour 10.
    Results so far: MW100 has great pocketing. HM less so, but a lot of spin, fun. Redondo has a bit to little power and sweet spot. PSC a bit too stiff and powerfull. K, BLX, Graphite Pro and MAX 200G feels comparably too heavy for me at the moment. Right now my favourite is the Fischer90. Its aerodynamic profile gives it a bit more forward power than the box beams, making it a bit more direction/height precise and playable, with perhaps a bit less spin. I will post further findings.
    I am using Gosen OG Micro 16 at 22kgs for 18x20 rackets, 24kgs for 16x19, 23kgs for the 16x20 VAC90.
     
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  2. corners

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    Asian K90 is my favorite.
     
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  3. Povl Carstensen

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    Damn, and I am not sure I will ever get my hand on one of those. How many grams is it?
     
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  4. retrowagen

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    Mine are (in order):
    1988 Head Elite Pro
    1987-1993 Fischer Vacuum Pro Midsize
    1986 Prince Graphite Composite Series 90
     
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    K90. Nuff said.
     
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  6. Tennis Man

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    Prestige Pro (original) is the best, IMHO.

    K90 is the one I use most of the time.
     
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    Fischer Vacuum Pro Midsize
    Head Graphite Tour 600
    Prince Graphite 90
    Prince Graphite Pro 90
    Prince Spectrum Comp 90
    Prince CTS Lightning 90
    Prince Retro Precision Midsize
    Prince CTS Approach 90
     
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  8. galain

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    Is the Max 200G a true 90?

    Prince's Mag Pro 90 was one of the very best I've ever used.
     
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  9. retrowagen

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    No, it's more like an 84.
     
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  10. Povl Carstensen

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    Could be it. My test programme is in a slump because I am sticking to this for the moment.
     
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  11. Sander001

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    For months I extensively tested the Wilson [k]factor Tour 90 against the Yonex RDS001 90 and the Yonex won out. Bigger sweetspot, more spin, lighter swingweight, more comfortable.

    One major problem with the Yonex is that it was damned ugly.
     
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  12. Chotobaka

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    If strictly limiting it to 90's, the Fischer Vacuum Pro 90 is the one for me. If including racquets of the "ilk", I have to include the Dunlop Muscle Weave 200G and Wilson Ultra FPK 95 on my very short list.
     
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  13. NickJ

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    I haven't had many so I can only comment on what I've played with. My absolute favourite 90 was the Prince CTS Thunderstick 90. Oh My Lord, the service power I got with this thing was immense. Couldn't do anything else with it though. You'd need a shoulder holster to house another stick. Serve with the prince then swap it out to play the rest of the point.
     
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  14. Povl Carstensen

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    But I still wish the box beam of the K was like 1 mm higher, and 1 mm narrower, to give it a bit more foreward power. It would make it more playable for me.
    Edit: I need to test out the PK Rod Laver Heritage Series I bought at a sale...
     
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  15. Goly

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    Fischer Vacuum Pro Midsize
    Wilson nSix-One Tour 90
     
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  16. HRB

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    Head Graphite Pro...precise and comfy...that is until set three and I'm fatigued....then give me a PS 6.1 95 or my Radical TT MP!
     
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    I've always wanted a K90. How does that compare to the Bio 100 (not AG 100 or 4D 100)?
     
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    Yamaha White Gold 90
     
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  19. Povl Carstensen

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    I have a AG100 in the bag to try out, have not played extensively with it. That is the closest I can get.
    Btw, K gives me more feel, plowthrough, power, spin than BLX 90, so that one is in the also rans. Ofcourse it could be partly due to Wilson quality control but still. The BLX feels sort of numb.
     
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  20. heftylefty

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    Prince CTS Graduate Oversize.
     
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  21. PBODY99

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    That frame is bigger than 90 sq
     
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    My bad, I'm thinking their frames from the 90's.
     
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  23. Sander001

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    I'm loving my BLX Tour 90, the previous black and red one. It's perfect for singles giving awesome control and enough power. I think it's at the absolute minimum threshold of specs that still gives excellent plow through and stability; I save weight by taking off the leather grip and using 18 gauge string. Strung with Cyclone, gives awesome spin.
    Lol I was thinking whoa back then 90sq" was considered oversize
     
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  24. BlueB

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    Technically, the prince Mids are 93... But they'll forgive us, the 3sqin :)
    Yes I like those 2, too! Spectrum Comp for the feel, Graphite (4 stripe) for playabillity.
     
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  25. jersey34tennis

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    the bosworth dunlop 90's that were the justin gimelstob all back racquets tw had in their vintage racquet section were amazing frames. 90 head, 12.6 ounces. heavy 340ish swingweight. 66 flex. could just crush balls through the court. wish i never sold them
     
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  26. classic tennis

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    Maybe someone will reproduce the original lay up of the Vacuum pro 90 one day....who knows ?
     
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    I would have said K90, but I've began to appreciate the N90 more and more.

    I'm going to go with the N90.

    and the PS90 is cool too, but N90 is better IMO.
     
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  28. Povl Carstensen

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    I have a set of Babolat VS Touch 16, which I am contemplating putting in my K, but I hesitate in fear of being addicted.
    Edit: Anyway now I did it, 26 kgs. Will try it out on friday.
     
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  29. Povl Carstensen

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    And the gut snapped last week. It was great and kept playability the whole way.
    But for now the favourite is my Head Graphite Pro. The "thud" when hitting the ball with this is addictive, and gives you a good sense of what you are doing to the ball. Actually has a bit higher sw than the K, but is a bit shorter, so manouverability is not so bad. Gosen OG micro 16 at 24 kgs.
     
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    Love all those Prince "90's" as well as The Diablo Mid..the parenthesis of course being used since their 90 is actually 93.

    Head Graphite Pro..other favorite at 89.5"
     
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  32. Povl Carstensen

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    And my black Graphite Pro looks great.
     
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    super racquet
     
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  34. RudyHuxtable

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    Yonex RDX 500 Mid. By far.
     
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    Isn't pacific doing this now?
     
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  36. retrowagen

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    No, it's the same mold, but sadly a different layup, and minus the proprietary Fischer Vacuum Technic molding process. The Pacific is a nice frame, but does not have the same superlative feel and vibration processing attributes as the Austrian-made Fischers (the Asian-made Fischers of this mold also were not quite the same feel as the Austrians, analogous to the way the Chinese-made Pro Staff mids were not as well-regarded as the Taiwanese-made, which were not as revered as the St. Vincent article...).
     
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    The Yonex RQ-180 shows some promise. I just need to get the very loose factory strings out. Hope it makes the same "thwock" sound then too. Might be a favorite.

    Otherwise, Max 200G (I know it's not quite a 90, but it's close).
     
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  38. glovesaves35

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    Another vote for the Prince Graphite Pro, my weapon of choice as a junior 25 years ago and again now as I begin to play again.
     
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    those graphite pros (more flexible than the graphite, as i recall and i believe there was a grey one even softer). were very nice.
     
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  40. Povl Carstensen

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    Smaller rackets are definitely allowed in this thread too, to me anyway. I have a Max 200 G I have not tried for years...
     
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  41. Povl Carstensen

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    Now I am missing the gut string in this racket, as I am experiencing playability slowly detoriating with the OG Micro. But I will not go down the 47 dollar per set road.
    Edit: Sorry, this is then a Head Graphite Pro.
     
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    Yup, there were two grey ones. The Graphite Powerflex and the Power Pro. I have a Powerflex as well as a herd of Graphite Pros, very similar but yes a little softer. The powerflex and the graphite pro 110 are also very nice. I find it difficult to feel the difference between the Powerflex and the Power Pro. Anyone know if they were the same stick with different names? Power Pro might be a shade softer but its tough to tell, I believe it was a little cheaper too. Can't remember as that was in the good ol days when mom and dad were footin the bill.
     
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  43. Crisp

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    Defs the K90 for me. No longer use it but was the best 90 I used.
     
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    Head i.prestige 600 (89.5 sq. in)
    Prince Spectrum Comp 90 (93 sq. in)
    Prince Graphite Pro 90 (93 sq. in)
     
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    Oops, double post.
     
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    RDX 500, then K90.
     
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    K90
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    I've been on a quest to "upgrade" my Graphite Pro 90. I've been through the Rebels and the Tours, and now lately the Response 97. The Tour 100 16x18 came closest, but none feel anywhere near the GP90.

    It weighs as much as the Rebel 95, and the HL must be in the 10s.
    Supposedly it has a low stiffness rating, but that softness does not feel similar to the flex of newer rackets. F.inst. it feels as crips as the Response 97 (perhaps even more) which has stiffness rating of 68.

    Great string pattern for spin (14x18).

    I can't really identify what makes the GP90 so much better for me than the other Prince rackets - or other brand I've tried (Head Radical MP, Angell TC95, Volkl C10, aso) - I only wish it was a bit bigger.
     
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  50. Povl Carstensen

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    So today I brought 4 rackets to the first indoor session of the winter season:
    The Wilson ROK I have been playing with most for the last year. Great control, good spin, especially for the tight string pattern, and just enough power, allthough you have to work a bit for it (and/or hone your strokes).
    My Dunlop AG 300 Tour (which I know is out of the size range, but anyway), which has great pocketing, but a bit erratic perhaps due to a lowish SW. A couple of grams at 2 & 10 helped, but not quite enough.
    The Dunlop AG 100, which is interesting, because it could be the pathway to a slightly more modern, forgiving racket for me, with its 16x19 pattern and higher stifness rating (and beam) than earlier 100's. It did indeed have more power, but ofcourse not quite as endearing a feel.
    And finally (wow) my old Dunlop Max 200g Pro. Have not played it for maybe 10 years. The replacement grip was sticky from age. But wow, what a great feel and sense of the stroke. It is the heaviest racket I own at 370 grams (I hesitate to put leather + overgrip on it), but swings very nicely. And the weight translates to momentum in the shot. Will definitely try that again.
    Btw, the Prince Graphite Pro 90 certainly looks nice...
     
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