Favourite, but forgotten player?

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  1. Duzza

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    I have one but I can't seem to remember...
     
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    Haha how ironic. But IMO a top 20-30 player should be recognised quite well but most outsiders go "Jarkko who?"
     
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    Enqvist. Kucera was also fun to watch.
     
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    Mariano "Tenis pro" Zabaleta
     
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    Derrick Rostagno and Alberto Mancini. Rostagno was just wild on the court. Not the most graceful player Rostagno had the wild 80's surfer look and he looked ready to give everything he had in a match. Mancini just looked as cool as ice with an awesome backhand to boot.
     
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    andrei medvedev
     
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    Hey guys, has anybody seen Edberg?? what the heck might be he doing?
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    Yannick Noah. He seems more well known for his singing these days but I always enjoyed his very unique brand of tennis.

    Petr Korda was another one. The drug scandal really seemed to shut him down.
     
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    Noah-he had the style:)
    Muster-it was just fun to watch how much a man can run and do loud strange voices and not get a heart attack.
     
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    Paradorn Srichaphan for sure. Mardy Fish (maybe not forgotten but not really well known either)
     
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    Amos Mansdorf
     
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    Anke Huber (yes, I'm picking a girl. A GS final (AO) and a Women's end-of-year-final, a 5-setter against Graf no less, are nice things to retire with. And *that* smile ;))
     
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    I sure haven't forotten Paradorn.
     
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    how about gilbert schaller...i bet none of you know who that is
     
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    AUT Davis Cup Captain ;)
     
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  19. slice bh compliment

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    beat pete at roland once


    Good ones, guys:
    Zabaleta (with that hair)
    Rostagno, Mancini, Yannick Noah, Kucera, Korda, Bruguera.

    If I may add a couple: Guy Forget, Henri Leconte, Jakob Hlasek, Pat Cash, Emilio and Javier Sanchez. Well, I guess it is tough to count Noah, Korda, Bruguera and Cash as forgotten. Their names are on Slam trophies.

    Off the top of my head, here are a few lesser lights I thought well of:
    Karsten Braasch, Hendrik Dreekmann, Marcelo Rios, Jacco Eltingh, Nicolas Pereira, Diego Nargiso, Gianluca Pozzi, Gene Mayer, Eric Fromm, Ben Testerman, Per Hjertquist, Thierry Tulasne, Thierry Champion, Bob Charmichael, Owen K. Davidson, Mal Anderson, Ramanathan and his son Ramesh Krishnan, Johan Kriek, Jimmy Arias, Jay Lapidus, Wojtek Fibak, Jose Luis Clerc, Brad Drewett, Simon Youl, Mark Kratzmann, Leonardo Lavalle, Jared Palmer, David Nainkin, Rodolphe Gilbert, Paolo Cane, Ricardo Acuna, Cassio Motta, Carlos Kirmayr, Victor Pecci, Hugo Chapacu, Victor Amaya, Antonio Zugarelli, Corrado Barazzutti, Lennart Bergelin, Sven Davidson, Abe Vigoda, Pat DuPre, Claudio Panatta, Patrick McEnroe, Cedric Kaufmann, Freddie McNair, Shelby Cannon, Jean-Phillippe Fleurian, Minhea Nastase, Florin Segarceanu, Martin Jaite, Joao Cunha Silva, Jaime Oncins, Alex Antonitsch, Markus Hipfl, Sasa Hirszon, Oleg Ogodorov, Andrei Chesnokov, Alexander Volkov, Magnus Larsson, Juan Aguilera, Shlomo Glickstein, Harel Levy, Fino Meligeni, Pato Clavet, Tom Carbonell, David Prinosil, Alex Radulescu, Jai DiLouie, Tomas Smid, Michiel Schapers, Slobodan Zivojinovic, Luca Brazzi, Haroon Ismael, Tamer al Sawy, Ishmael El Shafei, Sandon Stolle, Alex O'Brien, Robert Seguso, Ken Flach, Doug Flach, Diego Perez, Carlos Goffi, Roberto Carretero, Anders Jarryd, Joakim Nystrom, Stefan Simonsson, Hans Simonsson, Andread Vinciguerra, Richey Reneberg, Rick Leach, John Frawley, Rod Frawley, John Alexander, John Fitzgerald, Wally Masur, Eric Korita, Chip Hooper, Chris Lewis, Vijay Amritraj, Martin Laurendeau, Sebastian Lareau, Sebastian Grosjean, Chris Pridham, Barry Cowan, Jamie Delgado, Ramon Delgado, Jerry Garcia, Paul Haarhuis, Andrei Cherkasov, Andrea Gaudenzi, Daniele Musa....the list goes on.

    I think my favorite, but forgotten player is....
    anyone remember that guy, Mark Philippoussis at all?
     
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    Who didn't? ;)
     
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    Little Mandy Coetzer, one of the fittest women players ever.

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    Ramesh Krishnan, the magician from India. Powder puff serve but incredible hands at the net. 8 singles titles. Reached semi-finals at Wimbledon.
     
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    Miloslav Mecir.

    One of the smoothest players I have ever seen. I do not like watching 2 handed backhands, but his was a beauty.
     
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  24. retrowagen

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    I think my faves are some of the lesser-sung Swedes of the 80's and 90's:

    Anders Jarryd
    Joachim Nystrom
    Jonas B. Svensson
    Magnus Larsson

    All were good guys who looked like they really enjoyed what they were doing on the court and off (except when a loony fan blew up Larsson's house while he was on tour!).

    I also liked "The Big Cat" Mecir, one of the most analytical players of the game (and one who made it look so easy). Sadly, he had his career cut short by back problems.

    Really, none of these guys made "household name" status (at least outside their homelands, perhaps), but I liked them.
     
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    Jay Lapidus - Head Coach for Duke now

    Cedric Kaufmann - Assistant coach for Kentucky

    Freddie McNair - Was a great player at UNC

    Ken Flach - Was head coach at Vanderbilt

    Richey Reneberg, Rick Leach - My coach growing trained with these guys
     
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    Harold Solomon & Eddie Dibbs (AKA the Bagel Brothers)
     
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    x2 for Mecir.
     
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    Reached the QF, not the semis.
     
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    All of the above, for sure, but how about Kent Carlsson? That's my vote. A true supernova; if I recall correctly, he won 6 consecutive clay court titles in '87 or '88, but unfortunately his career was cut short by a debilitating knee injury.
     
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  30. slice bh compliment

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    Some good ones from the 80s on this page.

    Hey, anyone remember Hicham Arazi? Has he retired?

    What a game! Sometimes.
     
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  31. vive le beau jeu !

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    forgotten ?
    former top players like mecir, noah... i don't consider them forgotten !

    ummm... anyone remember marc goellner ? he had a good 1993 season, but never really went to the "next level"...

    arazi, maybe... but i still don't consider him forgotten ! ;)
    paes (as a single player) was funny to watch too...
     
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    How's about the guy with the best name in tennis: Slobodan Zivojinovic! let's go BOBO! Actually he played a superb match vs lendl at Wimbledon in the mid 80s...(IIRC)
     
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  33. vive le beau jeu !

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    ah yes this one too ! :)
    i remember his match vs wilander at RG 1988, where he was leading (i think) 5-2 in the 5th set before losing 7-5...
    it was an exciting match to see... for the proto-tennisfan that i was ! ;)
     
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    Oh yeah: what ever happened to Marc Rosset, the tall, hard servin' Swiss (Switzerland's Number One before Whatshisname turned pro)?

    Amongst the women pros, I had a soft spot in my heart for Claudia Kohde-Kilsch.
     
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    Juan Balcells.

    A Spanish pure serve and volleyer. Is that an oxymoron? I remember watching him play against Agassi in the final of Scottsdale 2002 on TV. I believe he serve and volleyed on both 1st and 2nd serves. He actually managed to take the second set to a tiebreaker.

    He's a big guy. I believe they said on TV that his dad was a weightlifter or bodybuilder. Of course, he's got the big sideburns. He also made his mark against the US Davis Cup team after John McEnroe remarked "Who the hell is Juan Balcells".
     
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    +Legendary match against McEnroe. When Mac was in his usually "fight" with chairman, Zivojinovic took sandwich from his tennisbag and eat them in his chair
     
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    What were they playing style? BTW, is Mansdorf the player with College student hairdo from Israel?

    BTW, I vote for Mecir. Enigma...
     
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    Carratero, won a atp event ranked in the 140s, never heard of him since, also Arazi, plays this week, a comeback.
     
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    bernd karbacher...
     
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    I would go for Mecir. Quite forgotten and a real magician. Gomez is very forgotten for a player who won the French. Tim Mayotte doesn't get mentioned much though he was a top 16 player for a very long time.
     
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  41. Craig Sheppard

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    Slobodan Zivojinovic! I don't remember a thing about his game, but I never got enough of the announcers saying his name. heh. :)
     
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    Played with a similar racquet to Becker for a while there? Big hulk of a guy?

    Trying to remember bits myself here....
     
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  43. Craig Sheppard

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    Haha beat me too it--shame on me for not reading all the previous posts! :)
     
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    All this talk of good/great players that have been forgotten... makes you wonder why they're not coaching somewhat prominent players, even if just for their own country. Edberg, Mecir, Enqvist, Brugera, Muster, Washington... they could teach these young whipper snappers a thing or two...hundred.

    Edberg I could understand, he's such a reserved guy I'd bet he's enjoying family life. But he was so good, so natural... but maybe it's so natural it's hard to pass on/explain.
     
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    Great thread... going down nostalgia lane!

    Edberg could hardly be termed 'forgotten', but I completely agree with you, Craig, it is a little sad that he has completely withdrawn from the public eye. He was a genius, such fluid grace, poetry in motion really...

    Isn't Mashona Washington Malivai's kid? Malivai was another really good player, but sadly a 1-trick pony; handful of titles with a semi's showing at Wimby (I think).

    Besides Slobodan Zivojinovic, the giant with the booming serve in the late 80's / early 90's; there was also a big Japanese player who had a HUGE serve. He had some high-profile Davis Cups wins; top-50 dude with couple of titles. I think Shuzo Matsuoka was his name..., anybody remember him?
     
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    Anyone remember Steve Denton? He got to #12 in the world in the early 80s with a HUGE serve but pretty much nothing else to his game.
     
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    Sibling.

    Shuzo Matsuoka. Dubious distincion: he cramped really badly in a match, and the trainer was not permitted to help him. It was really painful. Painful to even watch. Loss of condition rule. Now sometimes known as the Shuzo Matsuoka rule. It's been overturned and abused of late.
     
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  48. slice bh compliment

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    Yes. He even had a strange little walk/hop leading up to his serve.

    Is he a college coach now? Maybe somewhere in Texas, if I recall. I remember when he put on an exo between Connors and Mac back in like 98. Corpus Christi. Seems like a nice guy.

    I've got a few more names for you guys. A small list of players who are gone, but remembered for good runs at Wimbledon:
    Tim Mayotte, Paul Chamberlain, Dan Goldie and Richard Matuszewski, and John Frawley.


    Oh, SNAPple...do you remember who was the top pro who endorsed Snapple? (I think it was Snapple Sport)
     
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    You got me on that one - I really should know more about moniker shouldn't I :)

    Also, two other names that come to mind are Martin Jaite and Jaime Yzuga, who I recall giving Sampras fits at the '94 Open.
     
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  50. retrowagen

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    No, he was a Prince man, played the Prince Boron 110 most notably, not Puma/Estusa like BB. The connection with BB is that they were both represented by Ion Tiriac and were often hitting partners. Bobo was supposed to be the big follow-up to Becker's success in Tiriac's stable, but seemingly when the Balkan peninsula received its political shakeup in the late 80's, he dropped off the international tennis radar and has yet to resurface.

    He was fun to watch on the court, though, with his ultra laid-back style, quick smiles and that buggywhip forehand.
     
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