Fed Accepts Wildcard Into Monte Carlo

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  1. marc45

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    apologies to oy vey in the federer isn't playing mc thread, but thought it deserves it's own affirmative post....only roddick out of the top ten
     
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  3. l_gonzalez

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    good call?!

    He'll make a run to semis or final and get his ass spanked again by either Nadal, Murray or Djokovic. he should have just stayed at home looking after Mirka.
     
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  4. batz

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    Novak will be pleased!
     
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    He doesnt want to lose his number 2 ranking...
     
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    On clay he can beat either Murray or Djoko, the only one he can't beat is Nadal. This will be another Nadal-Fed final.
     
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  7. Cesc Fabregas

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    Novak will stay the number 2 seed wont he Roger comes in as a wildcard.
     
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    Damn he did it only to screw Novak who would be #2 seed and guaranteed to avoid Nadal until the final :)
     
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    No mate, wildcards get seeded - it'll just say WC next to his seeding.
     
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    You are joking, right?
     
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  11. Cesc Fabregas

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    Oh, thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    :):)

    I think this makes Murray taking number 3 next week more likely now. Serious question gj - do you think going down the rankings will negatively effect your boy? As strange as it might sound, I think it might actually help him.
     
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    So why do you think Roger held up his decision for so long? Could it be a bargaining ploy for more appearance money?

    I would stock up too with a kid on the way. Who knows how long the sunshine will last.
     
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    Good. Looking forward to Monte Carlo.
     
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    That be funny if Fed has to play Nadal in the 1st round. LMAO!
     
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    This is just my opinion, but I don't think he expected Murray to have a serious chance of catching him during the clay season so he doesn't want to give away 700 points. Roger does not want to head for SW19 ranked 3 (although Wimbledon's seeding system might've bumped him up to 2 anyway but why take the risk).
     
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    :confused::confused:

    Fed will be seeded 2 and top 8 get an R1 bye anyway. Can't happen.
     
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    Aha, I didn't think of the Wimbledon angle. Good one batz.
     
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    Did you forget about Djokovic? He has been very close to Fed. Fed just was hoping to win more at Indian Wells and Miami. Also he was worried about his back.
     
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    Wimbledon probably would give him a #2 seed, but if he has a lackluster clay season then he could potentially fall to #3 in Paris. That could spell a semi-final meeting with Nadal which would not be good for Fed.
     
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    Federer will be going into the clay with zero pressure on him to win because EVERYONE expects him to lose atleast to Nadal...Who knows...this might help his cause!
     
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    No I didn't forget Novak mate, it's just that I see Novak regressing rather than progressing at the moment. If my thesis is correct (and to be clear, I am only speculating), then who do you think Roger was worried about taking that 2nd spot from him during the clay season - the red hot guy defending 520 points or the struggling guy defending 2800 points?
     
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    I think this is a good decision by Roger. The more he avoids match play, the longer his mental hangover from IW and Miami will linger.

    Clay will allow him to build his confidence with his groundstrokes. He'll get longer to construct points and not have the pressure to generate winners all the time. Even if he makes a semi here at MC, it will bode well for him going into Rome.

    Also, as he pointed out in his Miami presser, nobody really expects him to be the favorite now, especially on clay. If he can make use of the reduced expectations to work on his confidence, come Wimbledon, the clay court season will have actually helped him regain his form.

    Plus you know what, he might just be able to snag the FO from Nadal if the plan goes super. (We can all dream can't we :D)
     
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    vtmike... we said the same thing at the same time :)
     
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  25. Cesc Fabregas

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    Pressure or no pressure Nadal is a better player and a far better clay courter than Federer and Nadal doesn't buckle under pressure he's not Gasquet.
     
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    Not quite sure what you mean by 'give him' number 2 seed. There is no longer a seeding committee @ Wimbledon, seedings are solely a function of ranking points and performance on grass courts - although as I said, it could well be that Roger would have got the second seed even if he was ranked third - his grass record isn't too shabby after all:)
     
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    last 2 years was same thing but still did not help him
     
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    I always thought it was #1 and #4 on the same side of the draw and #2 and #3 on the other. Am I wrong?

    It changes from major to major too right?
     
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    Fed should just go big or go home... I'd love to see him come out in Monte Carlo just wailing on every single shot. Screw point construction and patience, if things ain't working just set your arm free and hit it harder!
     
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    The same could be said of Nadal & grass going into Wimbledon 08. He was able to turn it around right?
     
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    Djokovic WAS close to Fed, but he failed to defend his AO title (or even make the semis for that matter), and lost a lot of points. Failing to defent his IW title did not help either. Novak should be thankful he didn't have to face either Murray, Nadal and Fed in Dubai thus getting an easy win there.
     
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    He had taken Fed to FIVE sets in the 2007 Wimbledon final. There was progress every year for Nadal at Wimbledon.
     
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    They're too completely different animals, and the evidence so far suggests that Nadal rises to the challenge while Federer just says... "things didn't quite work out, my game didn't click, hopefully next year it will"

    and what happens the following year? he gets his ass handed to him... again.... in an even more painful manner.
     
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    And he gained a lot of points in Miami. Typical Djokovic hating and discrediting him. Djokovic and Murray are going to pass Federer soon. :evil:
     
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    I'm afraid you are wrong Nikdom. 1 and 2 go into opposite sides of the draw, the rest are drawn randomly. There is an equal chance of 1 being paired with 3 or 4.

    This happens at every tournament - slams included.
     
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    Maybe its a sign from the gods that it might come true... :) (fingers crossed)
     
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    Look for Murray to exit early--lots of play lately on the hardcourts. Prob a bit burnt... we'll see...
     
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    Yay! Fed FTW!
     
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  40. madmanfool

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    Good decision. If his back is ok he should play.
     
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    I think, to win Wimbledon, Roger knows he'll have to beat Rafa. If he was 3 there would be a chance he'd have to play him earlier than usual, in the semis. Any day earlier than final puts extra grass on the courts which helps Roger more than it hinders him. I have thought a coupla times that it wouldn't be the worst thing for him to go down to 3 at Wimbly.
     
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    Given that Wimbledon add a grasscourt weighting to calculate the seedings, it would be extremely unlikely that Federer would be seeded lower than 2 there this year, even if he was actually ranked 3 or 4 going into the tournament. Unless Djokovic or Murray were to do a "Nadal" through the clay season, I don't see them having enough points by June to give them a big enough gap above Federer, since he has much better results on grass over the last 2 years than either of them.
     
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    this is interesting.....he annouced at the beginning of the year that he wasn't going to play and now he has accepted a wild card.

    Maybe Federer wanted to meet Nadal in the first round so that Nadal would lose maximum points (as oppose to beating him in the final and Nadal). Perhaps fed expected to do better on the hardcourts so that by Monte Carlo he would overtake Nadal.
     
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    Doesn't matter how he enters - wildcard or not - he'll be seeded 2, so he can only meet Nadal in the final anyway.
     
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    Nadal could have and probably should have closed it out in 3 or 4 last year to be fair.

    Also i do hope Roger does well this year. I'd like to see him stick around for a good few years.
     
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    Didn't know that......so it's kind of boring then.
     
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    This is a good decision by Federer. Well, not playing in Montecarlo was also a good decision by Federer.

    Bottom line: it doesn't matter what Federer does, he always takes good decisions.
     
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    Not sure about this anymore. Although I have picked nadal to reach teh finals the past 3 years at Wimbledon, and picked him to win it last year, I think this year is a bit different story. The way this year is going, I don't see him making the finals there this year. Same goes for Fed. Lot of guys making noise. murray, del potro, joker, tsonga, etc.

    I could even see Dent making the second week there if his body stays glued together.
     
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    I think on grass is a completely different story for Fed. He could suck all year round and still make the finals at Wimbledon I think. Pete also used to do well at Wimbledon and USO without really playing well the rest of the year.
     
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    I predict an early exit for Roger here. if his backhand is as bad as it was in Miami/IW and he faces a dirtballer, he will UE himself off the court.
     
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