Fed has the world record for mishits

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Attila the tennis Bum, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. Attila the tennis Bum

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    yawn. you said it and you knwo did; however my string has mysteriously disappeared so now I cant prove it. Isn't that just so convenient. I guess thats what happens when you suck the censors butts.
     
  2. BigServer1

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    Let...It...Go. Seriously, stop twisting things that people say and switching up your arguments to (desperately) try to make your self look good. You are a troll, plain and simple. Maybe if you stopped making the most asinine threads you would be able to garner some credibility.

    By the way, the title GOAT does not mean best poster on the board, it means he has 10,000+ posts. Breakpoint is no more the GOAT than I am a professional. I really hope that you knew that and you were just making a sad attempt at not only slamming BP, but the boards as well. If you're so disappointed with the content here, take off. Go sulk about your injury somewhere else.
     
  3. Attila the tennis Bum

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    i did. just responding.
     
  4. Wannabe

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    Just a quick observation

    This is a potentially interesting thread: it's just a pity it seems to have descended into ad hominem attacks on other posters rather than simply discussion of the merits of arguments. To try and get things back on track I have two observations:

    - I have never seen anyone use as much wrist snap on his forehand as Federer. This means that, when it comes off, it is the greatest forehand in the world. When he's fractionally early with his wrist, he's going frame first into the ball. I agree that Federer's forehand is less reliable than some other pro's, but surely it's the ratio of winners to unforced errors that matters. I bet mant other pro's would happily make more errors if they could have Federer's forehand.

    - I have heard on another thread that Sampras is now using the same basic racquet as Federer. Surely you can't argue that, since Sampras regrets he didn't move away from an 85 to a 90 square inch head during his pro career (at least on clay), Fed should "take Sampras advice" and go from a 90 to a 95?
     
  5. Povl Carstensen

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    Federer took Sampras advice and moved from a 85 to a 90 inch racket.
     
  6. sureshs

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    That was my advice, not Sampras' advice.
     
  7. drakulie

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    Fed doesn't purposely snap his wrist thru contact.

    Huh????
     
  8. Povl Carstensen

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    "Quote:
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    Federer took Sampras advice and moved from a 85 to a 90 inch racket.

    Huh????"

    Wannabe posted that Federer should take Sampras advice and move from 90 to 95, but in a way one could say that Federer already took Sampras advice in moving from 85 to 90.
     
  9. Wannabe

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    Erm...

    Actually I didn't: I said "you can't argue that Federer should take Sampras advice and move from a 90 to a 95" since Sampras is playing with a 90.
     
  10. BreakPoint

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    Huh? Sampras never advised Federer to switch from a 90 to a 95. Why would he when Sampras uses a 90 himself? :confused: That would be like Sampras advising Federer to switch to a two-handed backhand.
     
  11. LafayetteHitter

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    Federer is Number one in the world, why in the world would he change racquets? Simply amazing.
     
  12. iambt21

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    typically people frame more with thicker frames not thin frames. secondly, he was dealing with alot of spin and a few wild bounces. 3rd, he is not going to ease up on his strokes because mishits. he has to go for his fullshot without holding back. It may be more frames than before, but its within the normal standard deviation of mishits.
     
  13. Attila the tennis Bum

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    wow then Fed really is good because he is able to hit more mishits with only a thin frame.;)
     
  14. BreakPoint

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    That's right. If Federer used a thicker frame, every shot would be a mishit. ;) LOL
     
  15. Voltron

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    Pffft, like I'd know
    First of all, quoting is done with
     
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    That's the thing about people who use babolat racquets that amazes me: I rarely see Roddick frame a ball, even with all the topspin his quick windshield wiper forehand produces. In my mind, that's absolutely incredible. Crap, I frame balls just trying to bounce them up off the ground with a thicker-framed racquet, and they're not even moving.
     
  17. Attila the tennis Bum

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    LOL....seriously though....it may make logical sense that there are more mis hits with a thicker frame. The difference however is that with a thicker frame the mishit is not as bad as with a thinner frame and the ball will still actually go over the net.
     
  18. sakabatou

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    Hmm an interesting thread turned into a personal attack one. One note though attlia please stop your nonsense. If you wan to prove somebody wrong, prove it nicely and politely with good reason of your own. Dont just make up something just for the sake of getting back in somebody elses face. Clearly it can be seen at the end of your arguement, you are just making "excuses" to save your face. I shouldnt be telling you this because im not very old myself but grow up and the world will be a better place for u.
     
  19. Attila the tennis Bum

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    I dont know what you are smoking but where did I attack anyone or say anything derogatory.

    What have I made up? What excuses have I given? Dude you are hallucinating,
     
  20. BreakPoint

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    Yes, go over the net as well as all the way over the fence. With a thinner beam racquet, at least the mishits will stay inside the court. :D
     
  21. Attila the tennis Bum

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    Hmmmm....and you use a wilson.
     
  22. BreakPoint

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    Yes, a thin beamed one (nCode 90), which is maybe why I never hit any balls over the fence. :D
     
  23. Attila the tennis Bum

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    or over the net..;) ...just kidding...couldnt resist.
     
  24. adlis

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    his mishits have been improved now he uses the more stable K90
     
  25. iambt21

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    he is still one of hte hardest working pros on the tour without a doubt. He works very hard.

    Causes for some of federers mishits:

    -smaller racket head
    -swings faster than most(proven)
    -hits with almost the least amount of spin required.
    -goes for "great" shots always and thats part of his game.
    (compares this to a homerun hitter that leads the league in homeruns and strikeouts. No one cares if they strike out if they are able to carry the team with the homerun average they hold)
    -he tries to pick up his groundstrokes closer to the ground rather than letting them rise so the ball is moving faster and harder to see/time. Nadal is waiting and the ball slows down as it gets to him.


    I could also create a list for the causes for his great shots, but we are just looking at why he mishits.
     
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    I'v said it before, I'll say it again: I could give a rat's ass if I shanked all over the place if I was #1 in the world and had $100M in my bank account.
     
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    Well the mishits aren't really making a big difference, overall he is still very good.
     
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    Disagree with this. He hits a very heavy ball - lots and lots of spin. And trying to hit with so much spin obviously counts towards the mishits.

    In fact, with the way fed plays, im surprised that he doesnt mishit even MORE.
     
  29. BreakPoint

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    My sentiment exactly!

    The MAIN reason for his mishits is the incredible racquet head speed with which he swings at the ball. When you swing that fast, and at the racquet face angles that he uses, you're going to get a lot of mishits regardless of the size of your racquet.
     
  30. iambt21

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    he hits a heavy ball when he goe for a heavy ball, but he trys for a flatter ball as often as possible. i guarantee this. im not saying he does not hit any spin, he does.
     
  31. bsandy

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    This is why he's never won the French and loses to a guy with a bigger headsize.

    . . . Bud
     
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    www.tennisplayer.net

    That site takes apart Roger's serve completely and John Yandell, the world class coach who took it apart thinks that his head position may cause his mishits, not footwork or movement, not timing, just his head position on some of the shots.
     

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