Fed on schedule for another Nadal drubbing....

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  1. svijk

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    and Im saying this as a Fed fan....but its starting to look inevitable.

    In the past even when has he looked in sublime form he was easily dismantled by Rafa and now he doesn't look so good. Got through some tough matches against Raonic and Belluci and then you throw in the slow court, illness (maybe) and a well rested and in-form Nadal, its going to be 2 quick sets like Miami last year.

    well this is is all pointless if Delpo beats Fed tomorrow
     
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  2. sdont

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    We agree that this thread is pointless right now, then.
     
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  3. nadalwon2012

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    But look at how many players Federer has slaughtered. Look at Roddick. Why is it unfair for Nadal to merely lead 18-9 over Federer? That is nothing compared to the damage Federer has inflicted on others. People are supposed to suffer a lot in life. Positive and negative energy is supposed to be balanced throughout the universe. That includes Federer. And Federer's 'suffering' is only in tennis matches (and only vs ONE player!). That is a crazy easy life.
     
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  4. FlashFlare11

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    I don't really expect a close match if they both make it (and that's a big if, since they face del Potro and Nalbandian, respectively). I'll always have hope that Federer might win, but he's really struggling and it's very apparent that he's willing himself out of these matches.
     
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  5. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Anyone hoping Delpo will take out Fed?
     
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  6. Murrayfan31

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    Fed is done tbh. Nadal has the easy draw here.
     
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  7. FlashFlare11

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    If Roger's level doesn't significantly increase tomorrow night, then most likely yes. But I'd love to see a Federer-Nalbandian match!
     
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  8. cknobman

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    Agreed. All things balance out. Just look at how Novak stepped up and has gone 7-0 against Nadal and every single one of those matches being a final (3 of them Grand Slams).

    Now we just need to see what the counterbalance for Novak will be.
     
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  9. monfed

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    I don't see the point of this thread? If it's such a given why make this thread at all? I mean do we create threads like "Ferrer/Roddick/Davydenko is on schedule for another Federer drubbing" ?

    Anyway, Federer's never played Nadal in Indian wells and it's a best of 3. Anything can happen if Fed wins the first set. He doesn't have to win 2 more, just one more, have you considered that?
     
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  10. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Yeah me too but don't see it happening, Nadal is playing the best HC tennis of his career.
     
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  11. mandy01

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    Since I can't watch it (thankfully) I couldn't care less although of course, I'd rather he lost to DP, a player I like.
     
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  12. trenzterra

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    Actually his illness works both ways. On the other hand, I think Federer may play Nadal (if he wins dP) with a mindset that he's not at 100% anyway, so he might as well give whatever he's got and try. Often when put in that position, he comes through.
     
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    Dude, can you just like.. go somewhere else and stop being so annoying? Thanks.
     
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  14. Clarky21

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    Nadal has to get to him first,and even then it is far from guaranteed he will win. Nadal hasn't been playing that great,anyway.
     
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    You're consistent, I'll give you that :)
     
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  17. SLD76

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    again I ask you...what matches have you been watching?

    He completely dismantled Granolla and Dolgo and not lost a set.

    What more do you want????

    That said, with fed being sick and all, Im more worried about him getting thru Delpo.

    Hopefully he doesnt regress in his condition in the day off.

    That said, if he makes the semi and loses to rafa, im cool with it because he wont lose pts and I dont expect him to beat rafa on this court at this stage of his career anyway. nevermind being ill to boot.
     
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  18. Clarky21

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    Thanks. :lol:
     
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  19. stephan_58

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    Maybe the fact that nobody will expect Fed to win (probably not even himself, even if he'd never admit it) will make him swing freely in this encounter, who knows. He definitely won't feel as much pressure considering he's not 100% and IW is basically solid clay.
     
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  20. Clarky21

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    How about a better second seve that's not spun in at 70-80mph,or an actual bh that is not just a moonball. Oh,and how about some mental fortitude when serving for sets/matches instead of the choke jobs he's been doing out there,and a ros would be nice. Besides,Dolgo was an ue machine so Nadal really didn't have to do much with only 12 winners and 7 ue. He will not get away with that kind of junk against Nalby in the next round,or any of the top players for that matter.
     
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  21. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Might actually be good if Fed loses. That way we can see what this version of Delpo is capable of versus Nadal. I can see Delpo pushing it to 3.
     
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  22. DjokovicForTheWin

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    You also said he wouldn't get away with it against Dolgo, and he did. Quite easily at that.

     
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  23. joeri888

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    Federer is an ue machine against Nadal.
     
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    Why did Mirka gain 1,000 lbs when she married Fed?
     
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  25. monfed

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    Logical post, I agree.
     
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  26. sureshs

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    Federer already has the headache and cold excuse lined up. So, win or lose, he wins.
     
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  27. sbengte

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    Only one man can now prevent the inevitable. Will he ?

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    I have been waiting for a Nadal-Delpo match and I hope we get one this time.
     
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  28. pmerk34

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    FRANKENSTEIN WILL STOP FED
     
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    why do you eat paste?
     
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  30. Hitman

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    Vamos Del Potro! Time for a first Masters 1000.
     
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  31. andry16

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    well federer might have the phisical hand in their possible SF meeting, remember rafais playing also in doubles and he is scheduled to play today the doubles semi sohe is not having any resting day
     
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  32. courtking

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    so what happen to Federer?? he looks slow and tired last 2 matches.. did he catch the flu bug that's going around IW this year?? alot of players got sick and pull out..
     
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  33. celoft

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    Nadal on schedule for another Djokovic drubbing....

    Groundhog Day, no?
     
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  34. Param

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    No one will give Fed a chance against Rafa now looking at the way he struggled so far. But then nobody gave him a chance during Madrid 09 final as well. Djoker stretching Rafa during semi is not the actual reason as Nadal can play two back to back 5 hour matches in 24 hours. If Fed passes Delpo test, may be he will upstage Nadal also.
     
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  35. DeShaun

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    I would love to see Roger and Rafa duke it out. Chances are based on recent histiry that Roger would come out hot and perhaps win the first set. After this it's anybody's match. Roger's due to beat him IMO:)
     
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  36. joeri888

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    They could also just stop with these ridiculously monotonous draws and start giving Nadal some opposition. Not that I think ATP is all for Rafa, but it's just annoying that Del Potro loses to Federer in every tournament they play both.
     
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  37. joeri888

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    This court is too slow. Even if Fed plays well, he'll be toast. Rafa in 2, one baking product.
     
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  38. CMM

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    All his matches have been short.
    Besides, Federer played many matches in February while Rafa rested. Doubles matches are not exhausting. They are more like practice sessions.
     
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  39. jackson vile

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    Why all the gloom and doom when he has been winning all these tournaments. I am not at all saying that he has the odds in his favor, however I am saying that he is not without a chance in reality.

    We have seen many close matches between them, and it is not a best of 5. If it was a slam I would put money on Nadal, but in this situation I would not bet on either.
     
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  40. agentaviles

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    I always like to think that anything can happen, so I'm hoping that Federer can play well against Del Potro tomorrow, and then carry it over to play Nadal or Nalbandian. He has to get off to a quick start and keep on track to beat Rafa on a slow court like this.
     
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  41. pmerk34

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    Nadal is going to put a beating on that old man
     
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  42. FlashFlare11

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    Because Roger simply doesn't look comfortable on court at all. Granted, Bellucci and Raonic played well, but Federer's been missing some easy shots more often.

    Yes, he's been playing well, but this is his third tournament in 4 weeks, I think. He was bound to feel the effects in either IW or Miami.
     
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  43. Murrayfan31

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    More like Del Potro is going to put a beating on that old man.
     
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  44. kaku

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    Is it just me or has Rafa slightly tinkered with his service motion. It looks like he's trying to find some cross between that USO 2010 motion and his more natural motion. At least he's not spinning first serves in at 90 mph like he was near the end of last year.
     
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  45. kaleidoskope

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    Do we have any idea who's playing first?
     
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  46. ledwix

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    No one said anything about Federer having a bad life. lol. No one said it was "unfair" to be down 18-9 against a player either. Stop projecting.
     
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  47. TMF

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    Fed is not going to beat Nadal if they make the semifinal. Roger is sick...he was throwing up after his first match. Commentators were saying Roger was still sufferring from the flu yesterday, but as a fighter he'll continue to play. Roger shouldn't even be playing, he should withdraw just like Davydenko did. There's no need to put himself in this situation.

    Other reason the court is slow which suit perfectly for Nadal, who's healthy(didn't get the virus).
     
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  48. Towser83

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    Federer doesn't need to be sick to lose to Nadal, especially on a slow hardcourt. I guess it doesn't help though, but really he'll probably be ok by the time the semis roll around. Maybe robbed of a bit of practice. But let's not make excuses like people do for Nadal everytime he loses.
     
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  49. TMF

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    I didn't know my post was an excuse.:confused:
    I think those are the factors that Roger will not beat Nadal. However, I would love to be wrong and you guys can go after me.:)
     
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  50. Towser83

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    ok sorry, not saying you are making excuses but lots of people are saying he's ill, but if it's a food bug,he'll probably be ok by the semis. Maybe not, but he's playing ok at the minute, not great but he's played worse when healthy. So yeah the illness doesn't help,but he'sprobably losing to Rafa whatever his health.
     
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