Fed playing better with the BLX?

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  1. Fedchamp

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    Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Federer is striking the ball visibly better with the BLX than when he used the K raphite? Almost back to the level he was striking with the N-code, which was visibly better still.
     
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  2. mikro112

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    Welcome to the world of paintjobs!
     
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    Also welcome to the Forum. You should probably take a look around before starting your posts...
     
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    Agree, that BLX has improved his game vastly, but he is still spraying the ball everywhere on the forehand. Fed himself has said,,,"What is wrong with my Forehand??" during hit for Haiti night.
     
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  5. marsh

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    Too bad he's not actually playing with a BLLX racquet.
     
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  6. JoelDali

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    I hate to admit it but I have put in 6 hours now with a TW BLX demo and love it. I've pummeled the HollowCore pro strings...sorry TW :(

    I may leave behind the 88 and my STV for a Bullox. O Dear God I don't wanna be a *******.

    :(

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  7. jazzyfunkybluesy

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    Is it better than the K90 Salvadore Dali?
     
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  8. mikro112

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    When I had a TW demo racquet of the K-Blade Tour, the fresh strings (don't know which one, some multi) lasted about 40 minutes. The good thing was that I could put my regular string on it more quickly. :D
     
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  9. JoelDali

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    I wish I could assess a huge review of all the box beams I've been wielding the past few years but I'm ADD today.

    Here is the deal.

    I'm serving so God damn consistent with the BLX demo. I'm not a big 120mph server but I have great placement and a solid 2nd. The other night in Doubles I swear I was serving like 75% with it an doubled only once over 3 sets. The only thing I missed was the wide out slice deuce court Aces I always hit with the 88. I ace guys constantly with the 88 on the deuce side with a wide slice. The Bullox just didn't give me the wierd powerful thump that the 88 does.

    The BLX compared to the K90....I played with a K90 for a year and pretty much enjoyed it until the 88 blew my mind....being the box beam hoar that I am I can pretty much pick up any of the Prostaff lineage and play with it.

    Since I lost over 20 pounds from swine flu this past Summer though, the 88 has not been ideal for me and thats why I was loving the STV I bought from Plasma until the grommet meltdown.

    When I tried Jollys BLX in November it had his JollyRig setup which was atrocious in the BLX (sorry Jolls) and I immediately put it down.

    I finally caved in last week and ordered up the BLX demo that came with HC Pro.

    Out of the gate I was loving this stick.

    I was playing with a ball crushing buddy of mine that is a solid 4.5. We played 4 sets and I didn't drop one, and I bageled him in the 2nd. I usually beat him handily so I was not surprised that much. He used to sort of own me but in the past year I totally own him.

    One of the things that really got my pickle twisted was I was doing some incredibly disgusting droppers a la Fed from the backhand side. Total disguised slight chopps crosscourt that were just delicious.

    I'm trying to decide like right now whether to order up a Bollox.

    Its only $200 bucks so its not like its a horrible thing.

    And I have proven that I play well with it.

    My only question is strings.

    I think whatever is comfortable in the 88/K90/PT90 would work with the BLX but -5 lbs.

    I think a full bed of Gut at 58 would be nice, or ALU R at 60.

    Anyhoo, I don't wanna be a *******, but God dammit I loved the BLX unfortunately. I dissed BLX *******s in another thread and now I feel like a DooshLicker(tm).

    But, oh well....its a solid stick....may add a few grams if I get one.

    In fact, I'm ordering it now....argh.
     
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  10. JoelDali

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    The HC pro wasn't in bad shape when I received the stick and I'm no Robin Soderling but man I tore through it in about two hours.

    Its not a bad string actually, I enjoyed it but won't buy it.

    I'm on the play test list and received it before it was released and put it in my PT90 and didn't like it at all...wierd.
     
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  11. Fedchamp

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    I was under the impression he wasn't playing with a pj. In any case he may have had the specs altered.
     
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  12. Fedchamp

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    Actually I took a cursory glance. The one post I found suggested his racquet speed had increased- not that he was striking the ball better.
     
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  13. GasquetGOAT

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    You should look a bit further, TW dates back 03/04. But saving you the trouble, Fed has been using the K90 under various paint jobs ever since signing with Wilson -PS90, HPS95, N90, BLX90. Only non K90 he used was the PS85 and an early version of the PS90 (or was it HPS95? Anyone?) but only briefly.
     
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  14. Fedchamp

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    But the N90 predates the K90. Why would Wilson supply Fed with technology that they have yet to market?
     
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  15. finchy

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    its just paint on his racquets that they call new technology. he plays with some completely different racquet than what is on the market today. ive read that the only difference between the k90 and blx90 is the way it is constructed (but same mold obviously). I highly doubt there are basalt whatevers in the racquet.
     
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  16. GasquetGOAT

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    Because he is Roger Federer.
     
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  17. MuscleWeave

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    In a Tennis Channel interview, he said that he is able to play better because his back isn't hurting him anymore.
     
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  18. Nextman916

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    I played with the blx tour as well with hollow core @ 55 and the thing had absolutely no feel to it. I couldnt get any feedback from the racquet, it felt like hitting with a frying pan to me. K90 was MUCH better imo.
     
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  19. JoelDali

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    I understand how you could say that.

    I don't think its a frying pan but it does have muted feel.
     
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  20. Buckethead

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    That has nothing to do with the racket,if he is using it.It just has to do with his footwork,his health and confidence.he hasn't had any problems with mono or his back lately which clearly affected his performance.He was sick before IW,but he seems to be alright.
     
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  21. OliverSimon

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    The new BLX stuff has really upped his game.
     
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  22. mikro112

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    After >1,800 posts, you should know a thing or two about paintjobs.
     
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  23. courtking

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    I have the same problem as you.. I played with PStour 90, N90, K90, KPS88, BLX90 all with identical setup, hybrid VSGut main at 47lb, Luxilon ALU Power Rough @44lb.. I got no feel at all out of BLX.. KPS88, K90 give me the most feel and power.. One of my buddy play with NCode 95 and slowy switching to BLX95, he also said the same thing..
     
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  24. coloskier

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    Just tried the BLX 90 and liked it for the mere fact that it had less power along with good feel. My biggest problem is that I have too much power for playing at altitude, so I need a stick that doesn't send the ball flying.
     
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  25. rovex

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    I guess all that "Feel is elemental" garbage has gone down the drain...
     
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  26. JRstriker12

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    Wow! That PJ really improved his play in the last match...
     
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    bet he lost because of the BLX, he would never have lost to baggy with the K-factor:rolleyes:
     
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  28. JRstriker12

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    Agreed, K-Factor PJ > BLX Factor PJ
     
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  29. big bang

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    yeah but N-code>than all of them:) that was some serious paint the used back then!!
     
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  30. JRstriker12

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    LOL!!!! (10 char)
     
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  31. samster

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    Nonsense. His shoes are the reason why he is winning.
     
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  32. big bang

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    thats a pj as well!
     
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  33. Povl Carstensen

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    K90 and BLX are not the same mould, as you will see if you compare two closely (I did). But my guess would be that Federer plays with K painted like blx
     
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  34. happycamperjack

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    I'm sure you guys all remember how Federer suffered through its career low points with K90. People were wondering if he could ever win one more grand slam at one point.

    My theory is, the added feel of K factor is great for returning slower shots, but the "feel" of heavy shots would destabilize the racket. Let's look at one of the last K90 grand slams, Federer's Wimbledon final 2009. I've never seen federer have so much trouble controlling and returning roddick's serves, even roddick said so in the after interview. Back in the N90 days, Wimbledon final again, Federer was able to control roddick's serves so much better. So the "muted" feel of N90 and BLX may just help Federer against those hard hitting opponents.
     
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  35. Hidious

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    Yes, the paint used on Fed's frame can change a game dramatically.
     
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  36. happycamperjack

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    Well, back in the N90 days, people have gotten accessed to Federer's rackets through stringers. They say they play pretty much the same as normal N90 even with the different string pattern. I believed them. So if you work for wilson or have some decisive evidences that prove that Federer's rackets use different materials than production rackets, let's see it. If not, you are less creditable than I am.
     
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  37. jazzyfunkybluesy

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    Federer is a paint job as well.
     
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  38. GasquetGOAT

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    You should read some of the older threads here. We have been over this many times. Retail N90s were different to Fed's version.
     
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    Edited for emphasis.
     
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  40. happycamperjack

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    I did, I was here a few years ago. Lots of PS85 defenders were here and they just couldn't accept that Federer would ever use N90 as it has "no feel". And I remember the argument died down at the end when there were more evidence supports that Federer's N90 did indeed "feel" like the normal N90. But still for some reasons people just cannot accept this. I think it's more likely for Wilson to just use whatever federer likes and reproduce them rather then going out of their ways to make a totally different racket? Since Fed is one of the handful of people using the six-one 90 series in top 100, why wouldn't wilson let him do whatever he likes to the racket?
     
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  42. Hidious

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    Fair enough, my sarcasm was based on what is said on these boards. Is that credible? Probably not enough to throw that you...
     
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  43. happycamperjack

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    You may want to check out the link I've posted above. of course the feds rackets won't be exactly the same as normal retail, as they are handpicked from the production line, the cream of the crop. Makes sense though, the easiest way to make a bunch of consistent rackets is to make a bunch of them, then go in and choose ones that are of high quality and similar attributes.
     
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  44. big bang

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    take a look at pics of Feds N90 compared to retail then, different string spacing.. when all the other guys custom or pro stock frames then why should Fed be using retail?? I find that very hard to believe!
     
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  45. happycamperjack

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    The holes are drilled after the frames are picked off the production line. Just take a look of the link. It would be hard to believe if Fed is using a line of rackets that are being used by a lot of pros. But since sixone tour is pretty much Fed's trademark racket, kinda like PureDrive Roddick, why wouldn't wilson let him do whatever he wants with it? Think about it.
     
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  46. Povl Carstensen

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    If I remember correctly, Federers ncode also had a shorter grip (pallets) than the production model. Another aspect in which the kfactor is also closer to what he was playing with.
     
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  47. happycamperjack

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    That one's easy. Pallets can be easily modified.
     
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  48. ClubHoUno

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    The matte paint job on the BLX PJ makes Fed's shots more spinny than when he had glossy paint on his K90 PJ :D

    This is why he hits with a bit more spin this year compared to last year.
    Fed will go on to win the French again this year beating Rafa in the semis and Djokster in the final because of this fact :lol:
     
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  49. Markov

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    Yeah Fed hasn't been playing very well with black pj shoes lately.. he should seriously stop using that color..
     
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  50. Fedchamp

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    I thought I read somewhere that Federer was actually playing with a BLX and not a pj.
    PS can't these racquet companies be sued for false advertising?
     
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