Fed/Raonic

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by nethawkwenatchee, Mar 11, 2012.

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Who wins Federer or Milos Raonic

Poll closed Mar 14, 2012.
  1. Roger

    93.8%
  2. Milos

    6.3%
  1. nethawkwenatchee

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    Ok... Here we go with Federer versus young Milos Raonic. I think this is much anticipated, given Milos's style and success over the past two seasons. Does Milos have the tools to give the king a run?
     
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  2. monfed

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    Fed's gonna have his hands full against Meelosh,methinks
     
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  3. Love all

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    what's doing this thread in pro discussion forum?
     
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  4. kishnabe

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    Raonic in 5.
     
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  5. MichaelNadal

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    Spoilerrrrrr.... but anyway, the Maestro in 2.
     
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  6. PCXL-Fan

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    Someday in a few years Milos will have a several steps further improved ground game to compliment his formidable serve. When that year arrives he could travel in timemachine back to 2012 to give 2012-form Federer a run for his money. Right now, not so much...

    Federer in 2.
     
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  7. Clarky21

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    Roger in 2. Fed fans are getting wound up about this match for nothing.
     
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  8. MichaelNadal

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    Exactly, Hewitt beat Raonic.
     
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  9. svijk

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    if Melzer can beat Raonic, Fed should do it too...2 sets
     
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  10. firefox

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    Fed caught the flu :cry:
     
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  11. Xizel

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    Loved this.

    Raonic will be another Tomic. A youngster being showcased Federer's exhibition.
     
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  12. monfed

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    Can someone confirm this? Commentators mentioned it.
     
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  13. FlashFlare11

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    Really? Was it before the tournament or just before the match?

    Last time he performed badly at IW/MI he had a lung infection, and we all know how the rest of 2010 panned out.
     
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  14. cc0509

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    I did not hear it myself but supposedly one of the commentators said Mirka and the kids have some virus and Federer caught it from them. Hopefully he will feel better for his next match.
     
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  15. SStrikerR

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    From what I've heard a few players have retired from the flu, and that others are suffering from symptoms. So it's a possibility. I think he'll be fine.
     
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  16. FlashFlare11

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    First the arm, now the flu. I hope it doesn't deter his momentum. He didn't look that great tonight. Made some uncharacterstic mistakes.
     
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  17. Talker

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    I'll take fed.

    Raonic is going to be monster on the courts soon.
     
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  18. monfed

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    Before the match. Apparently the flu struck other players and they pulled out,can't remember the names though.

    Gosh, Yes, if he had pulled through he'd have broken Pete's record. :(
     
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  19. cc0509

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    Yeah, he looked a little green to me but hopefully it is just a short-term bug.
     
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  20. FlashFlare11

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    I had heard some players pulled out due to a stomach virus (Monfils might be the highest seed in the Men's side). But hopefully that's not what Federer has.

    Yeah, me too.
     
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  21. monfed

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    Yup. I also noticed how quickly he was serving today(not the serve speed obviously but the rhthym of the serve), really looked like he wanted the job done fast.
     
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  22. jayoub95

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    Feds will win in 2. Raonic can give away a lot of freebies
     
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  23. FlashFlare11

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    That's an excellent observation! I only noticed his forehand wasn't as consistent, and he missed a few sitters and volleys, ones he'd normally make.
     
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  24. Bobby Jr

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    He looked a little meh! for sure.

    He def wanted to get off the court quick - some of the forehands he hit were monsters.. some in, some out unfortunately.
     
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  25. Apun94

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    ARE YOU HIGH??? REALLY? JEEZ! Raonic, atm, is a good player with a huge serve but hes still not good enuf to trouble the biggest guns. I just dont get it why people rate Raonic so high. ATM hes not that good. A huge serve and a good forehand only does not get u to be the best in the world. He may get there but not rite now.
    You just CANNOT compare Fed and Raonic atm. Fed is just too good. Remember Raonic just lost to Melzer couple of weeks ago. Now do u REALLY think he has a shot at beating FED??!!
     
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  26. Paul Murphy

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    Excerpt from an AAP story:

    The Swiss master said he was also feeling a bit sick, but not as bad as his family members and not enough to be thrown off his game.
    Federer hammered eight aces and won 79 per cent of his first serve points in the 57 minute contest.
    ``We are fighting something of our own in our family,'' said Federer, who is travelling with his wife and two young twin daughters.
    ``I have a bit of a combination. Not a terrible temperature but I have some things going on. I am the best off in the family. The rest of them are struggling much more.''
     
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  27. joechiang

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    What is the secret virus?Hope Fed will be OK.
     
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  28. nadalwon2012

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    If Federer loses to this Raonic klutz, he may as well retire.
     
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    A contest between Talk Tennis' two favourite active players (Nalbandian seems to have fallen off the popularity radar), exciting!

    Federer wins something like 7-6, 6-4.

    Of course if it were Nadal vs. Raonic, 60% of people would be talking about how Nadal wouldn't be able to handle Raonic's serve, since Nadal can't hit a return.

    Also, wrong subforum.
     
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  30. Paul Murphy

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    If Federer is fit and well his variety will severely trouble Raonic.
    Melzer and Hewit both showed how to beat the Canadian - stay close on the scoreboard, give him different looks when returning (i.e change court position - something Melzer did particularly well), be aggressive, move the big man around.
    Federer is adept at moving bigger players around and making them uncomfortable - recently...
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    he's done that to Del Potro in Dubai and Rotterdam - his slices, droppers and off-pace shots are tailor made to employ against Raonic who much prefers staying at the baseline and blasting serves and forehands rather than coming forward under pressure.
    I also still see the Raonic backhand as a significant liability and one that Roger will target - Raonic should be wary of the great man's
    inside-out forehand which he's striking very well at the moment.
    Federer may not have played him before but Roger watches lots of matches - between him and coach Paul Annacone, they'll have come up with the right game plan.
    But Federer will need to serve well - if he doesn't life could get a little uncomfortable because we know Raonic is one of the toughest players to break.
     
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  31. vernonbc

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    LOL. So true. :-D

    Remember how Raonic was supposed to take out Nadal at Wimbledon last year?
     
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  32. nadalwon2012

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    Federer needs to serve as well as Nadal did when Nadal played Raonic, and then he should beat Raonic easily. Nadal has never lost a set to Raonic in 2 meetings. 7-5 6-3 and 6-4 6-4, both on hardcourt. Both at Tokyo actually.
     
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  33. sbengte

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    Just made me think of Fed and Nadal and their respective attitudes which gets discussed here frequently. (Not saying one is better than the other, just a difference between them). Fed tends to downplay his ailments probably because he is comfortable going into a match as the favorite and doesn't want to make a big deal about not feeling 100%. Whereas Nadal likes to magnify every little injury and ailment which also goes very well with his "I am never the favorite even against world no. 127" story line.

    Had it been Nadal who had the illness, every headline and commentator would be screaming how an ailing Nadal bravely fought his illness and the opponent and we would hear about it for the rest of the tournament. With Fed, you wouldn't even find if he is ill unless you go read his presser in detail !
     
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  34. FlashFlare11

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    Exactly. And who gets called the "crybaby"?
     
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  35. Strategy

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    What time EST is this match?
     
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  36. Russeljones

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    This thread doesn't belong here, but even an ill Swiss titan should be the favourite.
     
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  37. cknobman

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    Fed's gonna spank the young pup and remind him who his daddy is: :)
     
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  38. Djokodal Fan

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    Fed will eat Raindeer for Dinner!
     
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  40. monfed

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    Two interesting things to watch out for if you're a Fed fan -

    - How will Fed handle Raonic's kicker out wide?

    - How will Fed handle Raonic's inside-out FH?
     
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    How will Fed handle a virus.
     
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    Elvis is playing?
     
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  43. monfed

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    Fed's said he didn't get it bad like Mirka and the twins. Didn't look a 100% v/s Kudla though.
     
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  44. jdubbs

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    I think if Raonic serves to Fed's BH, he's gonna get that slice and be able to do some damage.
    I see Fed winning in 2 tight sets, 7-6 (5), 7-6 (3).
     
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  45. agentaviles

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    I think Federer is going to take this as an opportunity to show one of these youngsters who their Daddy is. Federer 7-5, 6-4
     
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    I've only seen bits and pieces of Raonic's game. How does he deal with low slices?
     
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    Very true. The only reason we know about Federer not feeling great is because the commentators in the match I was watching mentioned it and then Federer must have been asked about it in his press conference.

    With Nadal and his camp, the other side of the world would know about any Nadal illness no matter how mild a week before he took to the courts!

    The way Federer does it is the right way. If you take to the court you are fit enough to play and just shut up about any issues unless asked.
     
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  48. luishcorreia

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    Roger.... By a landslide
     
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  49. Clarky21

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    From what I have seen not that well. His movement also isn't great so Fed can move him around the court and force him off the baseline,which I am sure he will do. His bh is also a weakness so I look for Fed to pick on that shot quite a bit. Raonic hasn't played a player of the calibre of Fed yet,or one with Fed's variety. I think Milos is doomed to be honest. Lol.
     
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  50. stormholloway

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    I like how people act like a serve and forehand aren't enough to win against the best. This is demonstrably false.

    Raonic has a good head and big weapons. He doesn't have to be Federer to beat Federer. Will he? Probably not, but he's proven he's capable of winning tournaments, and he's only getting better.
     
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