Federe is using a Prostaff with PJ?

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  1. fastswingVD

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    (sorry spelled Federer wrong in title)
    just look at this picture
    the butt cap is actually the old prostaff butt cap
    not the k 90 butt cap
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    I have and Estusa butt cap on my PK Redondo. Would that make the Redondo an Estusa?

    Now, I did that for a reason. It felt more comfy than the original cap. Could Fed have the old butt cap for some reason?
     
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  4. fastswingVD

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    lol psht
    old butt cap for some odd reason?
    prostaff tour 90 and ncode tour 90 are all have the same shapes
    i think he's using one of the two with k paint job
     
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  5. drakulie

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    I have a pimple on my butt, would that make my butt a pimple??
     
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    same thisg happened with the whats tsonga raquet thread
    the guy was saying because of the new buttcap it had to be a k95
     
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  7. Nitro

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    Why are there suddenly multiple Federer racquet threads? None of them say anything that is likely to be true.
     
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    i am not sure why people still ask this stuff?

    Fed uses a specifically designed frame for him only. it is 100% identical to the original ps85 but made with a 90inch head. the string pattern is also custom, being slightly more open.

    the handle he has is completely custom and is made of rubber that you cannot find on any normal bat.


    he is using the identical frame to what he has been using for the last 3-4 years, obviously with a diff paint job.
     
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  9. obnoxious2

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    People like you over-cise how different pro players racqueets are. Sure htey customize it but not to the extent to where, "...and is made of rubber that you cannot find on any normal bat." That is just stupid.
     
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  10. mattyc

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    how is it stupid. his bat is nothing like the k90 at all. the swing weight is also nowhere near 370 by the way. the static weight is 355 unstrung, but the swing weight is about 345.

    his grip is exceptionally unusual, and yes it is nothing like you can buy in shops.


    also the bat is very very handle heavy/ headlight.
     
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  11. bluescreen

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    wow, this butt cap situation has been discussed like a million times. use the search function please.
     
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    seriously, use the search. does it really matter what racquet fed is using?
     
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  13. [d]ragon

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    what evidence/sources do u draw this info from?
     
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  14. Lendl and Federer Fan

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    LOL.......
     
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  15. HeadPrestige

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    where do you always come up with this BS? do you have some magical source?

    First the dunlop frames and now this.
     
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    Wow. You had the gual to tell me how crap I was when I posted my vids. And from what I have seen you have been trolling the boards. Yet you didn't even know that Fed had a different butt cap? Or the reasons why?

    You are either a kid that just likes talking a lot and putting others down. Or you are a guy that really has no clue about tennis at all.. And this isn't the first silly comment I have seen you make regarding this sport..
     
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  17. nickb

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    You have no evidence to support what you are saying. His static weight changes all the time..

    I think he uses a real K90 just customized....I cant prove anything just like you...string pattern matches, beam matches, weights recorded by pro stringers match..remember Greg Raven couldnt tell a difference between the feel of a stock NCode 90 and Feds racket..

    Nick
     
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  18. tennisfa

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    wrong section.........
     
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    Ok i have a strong theory that Roger is still using his old prostaff 90, the remake of the old Prostaff vincent, the racket that he was using right before the Ncode 90 came out. but only trouble with this is that the beam width looks little fatter than the PS 90. and also the sound off his racket sound little more metallic which is more consistant with K-factors. and the old PS90 had very distinctive THUD sound when you made contact. this is NOT consistant with Roger's current frame. and also ROGER NEEDS A BIGGER RACKET TO WIN THE FRENCH.....:shock:
     
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  20. meowmix

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    Hey mattyc, I know you play the equivalent of open level tennis in England I believe, right? Not that I don't believe you, but have you actually been able to hold Fed's racket in your and get specs? If you have, then you've been holding out on us!
     
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  21. El Guapo

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    Anyone who thinks that Federer uses a real K90 (customized or not) is a tool and a moron.
     
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  22. Swissv2

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    Prove he is not using a real K90, customized or not.
     
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  23. El Guapo

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    Ask him. I have. Almost no one plays with the k-factor krap. Most are using a version of the old pro staff with a few using ncodes or asian ncodes. All are significantly weighted.
     
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  24. BreakPoint

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    STOP IT!!!!!!

    This butt cap stuff is getting ridiculous!!

    A butt cap means NOTHING!!!!!

    It is a completely interchangeable part of the racquet. If Federer started using a synthetic instead of leather grip or switched from Luxilon to Babolat strings, would you also think he's switched frames? It's the same with the butt cap. He simply prefers the feel of the old butt cap, so after Priority One or the Wilson Pro Room custom molds his handles for him (almost all pros use custom molded handles), they put the old butt cap on there for him. END OF STORY!!!!
     
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  25. drakulie

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    ^^^ Not true. I spoke to Fed and he told me he was using a regular, off the shelf k90. You sir, are a liar.
     
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  26. BreakPoint

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    And you know all of this for sure, HOW???? :confused: :-?

    Federer uses a retail K90 customized to his specs after-market. End of story.
     
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  27. Swissv2

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    hahaha. Nicely done Drak, nicely done.
     
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  28. BreakPoint

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    Yeah, and Federer's exact words were that he "wouldn't play with that K-Factor crap", right? :roll:
     
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  29. BreakPoint

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    So I guess you're the "tool and moron"?

    Here you go, a Wilson press release from February 28, 2007:
    http://www.sportsmediainc.net/tennis...&bannerregion=

    Excerpt:

    [FONT=Arial,]"You may never produce the type of transcendent tennis Federer plays, but now you can play with Federer’s actual racket. The sleek red, white and black [K]Six.One Tour racket bears Federer’s signature, boasts his familiar brown leather grip and features the same specs (12.5 ounces, 90” head, 27” length and a 16 x 19 string pattern) as Federer’s personal racket. Suggested retail price is $209.
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    [FONT=Arial,]"This is one of the very few times in history a company has introduced a racket a consumer can buy in a store that is the actual racket the world’s top player is using," Jon Muir General Manager of Wilson Racket Sports told Tennis Week. "This is exactly the racket we're sending him, it’s the racket he pulls out of his bag and now consumers can go out and buy Roger’s racket."

    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,]CASE CLOSED!!!![/FONT]
     
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  30. fastswingVD

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    y'all heard the man
    case closed
    i don't care about it anymore
     
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  31. jmverdugo

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    Isnt this from the same company that says that Djokovich uses a kblade and Fish k95 and hennin a ktour?

    I really dont care if Fed racket is a stock k90 modified, it may be, but you shouldnt quote this source, it is just not reliable. JMO
     
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  32. BreakPoint

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    Do a search. Wilson has NEVER said that Djokovic, Fish, nor Henin use the exact same racquet that you can buy in the stores.

    They have ONLY EVER said this about Federer and his retail K90.
     
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  33. 80'stennis

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    1. Companies like Wilson #1 interest is to sell products. They'll say anything to get the public to buy their stuff.
    2. I know someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows Fed. I even talked to Fed myself. Therefore, I am right. My experience negates everyone else's.
    3. To prove my point I read an article that says . . . Even more impressive I read another thread on the forum that says . . . And most impressive of all
    I stated in a previous thread . . . thus my point is proven.
    4. Fed just went to a heavier set up. That's my signal. Time to break out the lead tape.
     
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  34. old coach

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    I agree.
    Wilson is multi $ company and Federer, their tool to make even more money. He has multi $ contract with Wilson. And in it stipulate that he must to promote their product. + he might have some royalty fee to be involved as well. Do you expect him publicly say that it is not same racquet as they offer you in the stores world wide? Come on! It's a business. For Wilson no problem to spend thousand of $ to make custom racquet for him and other top players and their sales guarantee as long as these players will perform well. Their K95 is nothing like K90 and in top 100 no one plays with this racquet. It's only a business. They there to make money what ever it takes.Maybe sound too harsh, but it's true. Same goes for all other companies as well.
     
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  35. hoodjem

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    Look very closely and carefully at that buttcap. That's not a 'W'' that's an 'E'. Fed is now using an Estusa racquet.

    "Buttcaps prove everything."
     
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  36. downey stringing master

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    i agree , when i head i.pretiges mids i made all 5 have volkl caps. so i must of been using a volkl with a head pj ;) , see how ridiculous it all is?
     
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  37. DomStar7

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    it seems to me that if hewitt or djokovic are using paint jobs you are all shocked and annoyed but when it comes to federer it is an exception.
    Its a racquet!
     
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  38. Fedace

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    Butt cap is for the pro90 but so what. this frame's thickness is much thicker than pro 90
     
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    LOL you should not sit down too much. Play more tennis, it will go away :D
     
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    Keep smoking that pole, lemming.
     
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    I was told by a well respected stringer that he had a shipment of rackets that he had to string and ship to federer at the tournament site. Now this was sometime ago like 3 years ago when we thought he was using the N-code cause all his rackets were painted like N-code 90. This stringer told me that Federer was still using the Old Prostaff original 85, it was just painted like Ncode. But this was way back when. Since then i have heard again that federer has finally decided to switch to N-code frames and were using them for a fact. Now with this K-factor controversy, i have no idea about. I have NOT heard from this guy that he had seen fed with K-factors. Not even sure he had strung rackets again for federer after that one time.
     
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  42. BreakPoint

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    And so where's YOU'RE proof? :roll: Show me a quote from somebody who would know that Federer is definitely NOT using a retail K90.

    YOU'VE GOT NOTHING!

    It's so bizarre that some people think Federer's actual racquet has some magical powers or something. It's a d*mn tennis racquet, for chrissakes!!! Just like the retail K90 is a tennis racquet. What in the world would make you think his is special and somehow "better" than the retail K90? Are you telling me that if he used a retail K90 that he would never win a tennis match? Get real and please put down that bong now.
     
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  43. BreakPoint

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    3 years ago, Federer was using the K90 painted to look like the nCode 90.
     
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    You guys can draw your own conclusions.

    Here are the visual differences between the retail N6-1 Tour 90 and the N-6-1 Tour 90 that is claimed to be Federer's that Greg Raven has.
    http://homepage.mac.com/gregraven/tennis/PhotoAlbum10.html
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    To me the N6-1 Tour 90 that Federer used and the K6-1 Tour 90 that is sold to the public is the same mold. Whether Federer's K6-1 Tour 90 uses the same layup as the retail version that is a whole other kettle of fish.
     
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  45. Fries-N-Gravy

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    man there are like 20 threads all of the the sudden about federer's buttcap. can we all just agree that the most logical speculation is that he's been using what we know as the k90 for years, and using the old buttcap makes no difference. we may never know for sure. i hope this doesn't keep you guys up at night.
     
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    If you've got pimples on both your butt and your face, does that make them essentially one in the same?
     
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  47. El Guapo

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    When did I say that it was magical or better than a retail K90, pole-smoker? I feel sorry for people like you who need to validate their lives based on what someone else does or doesnt' do.
     
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  48. BreakPoint

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    Are you referring to yourself? You have absolutely no proof nor evidence whatsoever yet you go around spewing that Federer is not using a K90 so that you can feel like you know something that other don't and to validate you own life. Sad......just sad. :cry:
     
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  49. stormholloway

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    Where do you get this crap? So Wilson just suddenly started selling a racquet that had been around for several years? And karophite black was in it all the time?

    Why would you assume this to be true when you have zero evidence?

    And why does Federer's buttcap remain just as it was before if this is just a retail K90? There'd be no reason to use the old buttcaps. He's obviously using the same old racquet he always was, and Wilson made the K90 with a similar grip length and similar string spacing to shut all the fanboys up.
     
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  50. stormholloway

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    And you have proof that Federer's racquet is just a retail K90 that he's been using for 3 years? Of course not. There is far more evidence that Federer isn't using the K90 than there is evidence that he's been using it since the nCode days.

    The buttcap is the same! It's the same racquet he's been using for years with a K paintjob.

    If it's just a tennis racquet then why come to a forum and always talk about it? People want to know what he's using because many of us speculate that it's close to the 85, since that's what he always used.
     
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