Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by perfmode, Jun 27, 2004.
Federer is a God. Lol, he probably gets his fix from Bonds.
Haven't caught up on the drugs thing with Bonds, and anyway, I don't think Federer's power is the main reason he wins, well it is a big reason, but it is his consistency. Can you tell me a bit about balco? Wouldn't Fed get kicked off the tour if he used it?
No, I don't really think Federer is using Steroids. His success is based on his perfect technique. That takes practice and you can't buy technique.
Balco is a chem company that supposedly makes steroids and people think Bonds gets undetectable steroids from them. I KNOW he does. It's just so obvious. Some guy that set a new track world record was caught using it, he is getting a lifetime ban and he says Bonds also uses the stuff.
makes you wonder if giambi was using the same thing as well...
Bonds is just SO obvious. He is also screwed now because if he stops, he will start to suck and he'll get smaller. That will make it even more obvious. The only thing he can do is stay on them and deny accusations.
I hear that Serena is using them.
Who said that? It's possible but to me, it looks like she is just built that way.
Liam-since when did steroids make you pudgy?
It's so easy to throw around steroid claims. But there are always tell-tale signs when somebody is using. Most of these signs are noted from body type in early career, to late.
For example, Bonds was a literal runt compared to what he is now. While it is true weights do increase bulk, to that extreme is highly unlikely. Same goes with McGuire, and Sosa. All 3 were strong and toned in their early years, but as things went on they suddenly became pyramid shaped.
Serena looks nothing like a woman on steroids. Her body shape has changed very little since the earliest of days on the tour. She's a large, black woman... that's the shape they come in!
The only player I've ever suspected of using a muscle enhancer is Jen Cap. She became very large, very quickly, and her face grew more round. That's another side effect. If she did use them, it doesn't look like she is anymore... or maybe she always had that in her, I'm not sure.
MLB & the players union are ridiculous. Amazing that it's the only sport where testing is not required.
I really don't believe JCap is on the juice. Have you seen her dad? He's a really big guy & she's always had a strong build, even when she was 14.
You must know something that no one else knows because according to all reports, Bonds has never tested positive including this spring. There is rarely a day when there is not a new story regarding BALCO in this part of the world.
Bonds does not show any of the symptons of steroid abuse. The main one is that a person's body begins to break down (Mark McGwire) and injuries go way up.
After seeing Bonds hit that homer at Yankee Stadium, I have my doubts as well. He is innocent for now though, time will tell.
Lleyton Hewitt has inferred that some tennis players are using performance enhancers. If I was getting paid to play and I could get away with it I....................might use something.
Bay Area Lab Cooperative
sleeeezy folks, credit problems, selling "supplements" to cover steroid distribution, glad to see the feds on those scums.
How many trainers had athletes on these that we don't know about, I bet more than 4 top celebrity athletes..
not Federer though, has none of the signs. Maybe if he starts kicking his front foot like a horse before here serves, or snapping frames on drop shots
Maybe it's "obvious", but the skill that it takes to hit major league pitching cannot be created through steroids. He would not "suck" if he were not (alegedly) on the juice. He was very good BEFORE he started (alegedly) using. You obviously know nothing about baseball or Barry Bonds.
Guys! I hate to burst your bubble but drugs are WIDESPREAD in all sports even at top amateur levels let alone the pros.
NO! It is not OBVIOUS when a guys is using, it can be ovbious in some. I was a personal trainer for 8 years. TRUST ME, effects and side effects vary.
Examples can even be found in tennis, did you think Korda and Coria were using? LOL. Did you suspect John Mcenroe?
As for Bonds, Tim Montgomery the world record 100 holder testified in court that he used undetectable steroids from Balco and that the Balco owner claimed to be supplying Bonds. In any case you would be foolish to not suspect most baseball players as even SEVERAL players have publicly admitted the widespread usage, reports from these player estimate from 50% to 80% using.
Lambro?!! 4 top celebrity athletes? Listen my friend, I dont' know if they'll find evidence on anybody but you should be thinking closer to 400.
It's amazing to me how even though the public is starting to catch on....people still don't realize how ingrained this is and for how long it's been going on. It's not a few abusing exceptions....those are the idiots who get caught! lol.
But having said that....I sympathize with the athletes...they must do it to compete in their chosen careers and fulfill their goals....I happen to live in a well known steroid "zone" and at one of the premier gyms where I train, all agree that 75-80% of the men between 18-35 have or are using....but the vast majority of these guys are using for nothing other than to look good at the beach....
NO DOUBT IN MY MIND, dudes head blew up like a balloon! there is no work outs that i know that makes your head look bigger! :lol:
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