Federer Cheats!

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  1. BankOfDad

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    Yes, the headline was supposed to be inflamatory. I do find it funny, however, the number of people who accused Jennifer Capriati of "cheating" when she benefitted from a line call and said nothing. Now, a Hewett ball was on the line and Roger says nothing. The replay shows it touching the line and the commentators say it was "awfully close". I bet no one will accuse this nice guy of cheating...just relying on the linesmen to get it right. Funny how our preconceived ideas of people feed into our opinions.
     
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  2. Tour90

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    if you're a player, you're not going to say anything unless it's the obvious like the serve that roddick hit to agassi.


    not a cheater
     
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  3. Vlad

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    You are talking about different things. This ball was very close, while the other one was clearly in.
    Think before you are saying!!
     
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  4. AndyC

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    precisely.. in one if just clipped the outside line.. in the other it was 2 inches in the court.
     
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  5. BankOfDad

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    Very close....and in.
     
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  6. mlee2

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    People's opininons of Capriati aren't preconcieved.

    Preconcieved opinions are like gossip without actually seeing the person perform the bad act.

    We've seen Capriati act like a b!tch on constant occasion and firsthand on television, so criticism of her character is well warranted.
     
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  7. BreakPoint

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    Not a cheater! If you play a lot of tennis you'll know that from Federer's angle, a ball that lands on the outside third of the sideline looks to be out from his perspective. Too close for either the ump or Federer to overrule. Just really bad luck for Hewitt.
     
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  8. BankOfDad

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    But the point is.....no one will say that Roger should acknowledge that the ball was in. But they think Capriati should have said something. Different expectatations.
     
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  9. BankOfDad

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    Now we have a ball that was CLEARLY out and Roger says nothing. But since he's a nice guy and Capriati is a B6tch it's okay. Get it yet?
     
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  10. Ronaldo

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    Just remember win if you can, lose if you must, but always.........cheat, cheat, cheat.
     
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  11. Tour90

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    HEWITT CHEATS
     
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  12. Ronaldo

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    Btw, it's not cheating until you get caught. Hewitt better needle-out those balls
     
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  13. BankOfDad

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    Ronaldo,
    From my days of racing stock cars the saying was...
    It's not cheating until you get caught...and then it was just an interpretation of the rules.
     
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  14. Ronaldo

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    What kind of Stock Car Racer is from SoCal? Aside from that Rainbow Warrior. Thanks, never heard the 2nd part of that one.
     
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  15. BankOfDad

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    Just local low-level dirt track stuff. Ventura and Perris. Don't do it anymore, my kid's tennis started taking up too much time!
     
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  16. Ronaldo

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    Cool, watched a bit of the dirt track racing at Concord Motor Speedway in NC. Never knew it was televised or had big names racing.
     
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  17. ZhuangCorp

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    The reason Federer won't overrule calls that go his way is because he barely ever argues about a call himself. If Federer doesn't expect to get those type of calls, why should he go out of his way to give them to his opponents?

    When there are calls that go against Federer, he accepts them, so he expects the same from his opponents. that is perfectly fair.

    BankofDad, if you call waht Federer does cheating, then EVERY player on the tour is a cheater. Please be realistic.
     
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  18. voltman

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    It went both ways in the final.
     
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  19. BankOfDad

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    ZhuangCorp,
    You're not getting the point that I'm using IRONY here. Of course Federer should just accept it and move on. And of course it should all even out in the end. He did the RIGHT thing.

    What I'm pointing out is all the people on this board who called Capriati a cheater because she didn't admit the ball was in. I don't know about where you live but my local radio sports stations just keep hammering it into the ground that she's a cheater. And just not liking someone is not enough reason to have two sets of standards.
     
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  20. arosen

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    There was this interesting moment in the match, the first time I ever saw Fed kind of argue. Hewitt hit the ball to Fed's feet, I guess the linesman could not see it, because they never called it out yet it was out by, like , a foot. They showed a replay and it was way out. Fed had advantage before that call and he kind of gestured at the empire, sort of said something to him and then cut himself off. Usually he just moves on. He got another bad call on breakpoint, he hit an awesome return right on the baseline and they called it out when it was clearly (on video) in. Bad calls are tennis reality. Unless you are Serena. Then its a conspiracy.
     
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