Federer Critical of Player Withdrawals

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  1. Fedex

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  2. DragonBlaze

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    Well I can see this thread is going to turn ugly. Before that happens I'm gonna put Fed's actual quote up without the colorful commentary of the authour

    I see no swiping at other players, just him offering his viewpoint that he wouldn't retire personally, and he recognizes that every player is different. He did say that half of them are just not lucky. That sounds about right as well, while I'm sure that many players retiring is the right way to go in order to not hurt yourself too badly, I'm sure there are just as many that could actually finish the match without too much harm. As a fan, if I paid for those matches I would be super pissed if it was something lame that they retired from, like Djoker last week. Finish the 3 games man, come on. Not trying to hate upon Djoker, that was just a bit annoying really.

    Anyways though I'll save some posters here the trouble of typing their thoughts out by doing it myself -

    This is a digrace, an scandal, a outrage!!! Federer is such a pompous big nosed tweener hitting showboater narcissistic egotistical arrogant looking twit. This is CLEARLY an attack at humbalito and Djokerer. Clearly as the realization dawns upon him that his daughters are looking more and more like him (may god have mercy on their souls), he is turning more and more into a bitter old fool.

    So, how are my impersonating skills? Better than Djoker or not?
     
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    No sign of that debilitating shoulder injury this week ;)

    That was underhanded to deny Murray a full victory, IMO. He could have toughed out three more games.
     
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    Federer is absolutely 1000% right here. It is disgusting what is going on in tennis these days with all of the retirements in both the WTA and ATP.

    Disgraceful!
     
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    Yea it was an interesting time to retire for sure.

    Far too many retirements this tournament and the majority cant be blamed on the tour structure in my opinion.
     
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    :lol: You are dead on here. Madness will undoubtedly ensue!
     
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    ROLFMAO.

    may as well shut the thread down now.
     
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    Roger's view of retirement is very clear, and a little different from his peers.

    Roger believe as long you can physically hit the ball (I don't want to say to the point of hurting yourself, his limit is probably a little before that) you should go on playing.

    Most of his fellow players believe as you should go on playing only as long as you have a chance to win the match/give it your best effort.

    Not the same at all, and that's where the critisism come from. Could Mahut not play longer against Rafa? Probably. He just realized he wouldn't win.
     
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    You sound pretty faithful to the original.

    And it's probably a swipe at Djokovic :)

    Humbalito hasn't retired in a match since AO 2010 if I am not mistaken.
     
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    Would not be surprised if this was a slight directed at Berdych. I remember during their QF match at Wimb in 2010, Berdych was laughing and giggling like a school girl while he was winning. I think it was more due to Berdych being so happy to be winning over a player that had routinely thrashed him but Fed seemed to take it the wrong way and acted uncharacteristically irritated during the match. I remember on one point Berdych was already a set ahead and hit a drop shot winner. Fed took a step in and then waved it off as if to say it was a lucky shot. After that match there was a bit of a press conference feud between the two and then the recent win by Berdych where Fed did the phantom hand shake. There seems to be real animosity between the two players.
     
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    Has Feddy ever retired from a match in his career?
     
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    no.

    10retirements.
     
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    Grandpa here has never retired from a single match, yet we have toddlers withdrawing left and right.
     
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    Federer is a #ock, if Rafa was to retire against "Lord" Roger in the final of RG, I am sure he wouldn't be complaining. Mr Self Righteous can't seem to keep his mouth shut, I guess it's because he can't do the talking with his racquet any longer.
    And I am not a fan of either Rafa or Novak.
     
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    On the topic, he mentioned that he retired once, against James Blake in Paris, but he didn't even take to the court for the match. IIRC.
     
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    Noticed how these questions are always directed at Federer? Ever stopped to consider why?

    1. Because of his fame and success, and that when he speaks, people listen for good or bad.
    2. Journos/interviewers know that he speaks his mind.
    3. It will cause discussion, and criticism - both of him, and of those who fall under the banner of this discussion.

    It's a win/win situation for the interviewers, partly because of people like yourself who will openly criticize the one person who is ALWAYS asked and ALWAYS gives his true thoughts.
     
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    There is a difference between speaking your mind, being honest etc and being an arrogant #hit, it's that simple.
     
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    There is, I agree. May I ask where in what he said was being arrogant as opposed to speaking his mind or being honest?

    Personally, I can't see it, but it doesn't mean it isn't there. It's a genuine question, if you can point out where he's being arrogant, I'll take it on the chin :)
     
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    ROFL. THis is so true, and yet so funny.
     
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    And you're not the least bit arrogant, feeling that you can tell people what to say?
     
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    Bravo sir. Sheer genius.
     
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    I'd like to congratulate Dragon Blaze too, but I'll refrain from it until we confirm that Veroniquem doesn't add to the outpouring with something that Dragonblaze forgot.

    Hope you don't mind Dragonblaze!? :)
     
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    Talking about how he has only retired once in his career and how the other 50% who retire could finish the match. There is no need for him to say that, he always seems to feel the need to talk about how good he is, let the public be the judge of that.
     
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    Hmmm, I kind of see where you are coming from. On the first part at least, re. him referring to his once only retirement. He need not have said it, perhaps have waited for the reporter to ask the question directly, in which case he could answer, "Just the once."

    As for the other 50%, that's his opinion on others, which I feel he's entitled to. The same way you or I may have an opinion on retirements, or indeed on what Federer has had to say on the matter.

    However, it is all open to interpretation/semantics. I find Ralph's behaviour on court arrogant, and far more than anything Federer says off court.

    One man's tea is another man's poison!

    Off court, I don't dislike Ralph. At times, I wish he was more honest in his answers. But again, different horses for different courses.
     
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    lol Veroniquem.. I just realized she got the banhammer.
     
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    LOL if I could I'd put this whole part as my sig, well done sir.
     
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    She did? Hehehehe.............:)
     
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    Complete the game without retiring early is not an indication of how good you are. But it's a respect to the sport and the player(he/she deserve the moment to celebrate the match point). Spectators pay hard earn money, so the players owe them back by giving a 100%. Players should put an effort in finishing the game, even though he knows he's going to lose. That's include Nadal !
     
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    Federer is a beast. It's amazing that he's never retired. Amazing.
     
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    More like 'when he doesn't agree with you.'

    People want the top pros to show some personality and speak out; then when they do they get ripped. Too sad.

    And I happen to be a fan of Roger (avatar) but completely disagree with him. Those guys pulling the rip cord save me time of watching them half-@ss their way through the rest of the match (all 8 minutes worth in the case of Djokovic at Cincy - or the other huge one that got people's panties bunched - Henin vs. Mauresmo in the AO final).
     
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    Could be simply that Arroganto hasn't faced what others have faced due to luck or genetics. Lots of guys out there criticizing facilities for the handicapped or equating sickness with punishment for moral depravity, till they suffer themselves, and then they come up with another spin on the whole thing to make themselves look good again.
     
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    You certainly do a good veroniquem. :)
     
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    Federer is on the money. He has played more grand slam matches tha anyone in the game with the exception of Connors, and has not retired once while playing a match. So if anyone can make this statement, its him.
     
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  34. What was interesting about that is it would have taken no work. Just let Murray hit 8 aces on his two remaining games, and hit 4 lollipops and let Murray hit return winners on them. Match over. I don't think he was in danger of making the injury worse so...that would have taken 5 minutes to finish.
     
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    I find that odd... She really MUST have blown a gasket this time. The amount of hatred the woman spews whenever a certain player's name is mentioned is almost verging on the psychotic. As someone once said, it's only she that will suffer from carrying such hatred of someone she knows not.
     
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  36. luishcorreia

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    Fed complains about everything lately!

    "anywho"...

    I agree...BUT, pro players have a very demanding schedule as it is, and they need to be smart and not put at risk an entire season or part of a season...the way the rankings work also contributes to that. The ranking system rewards consistency over on great result. So its better to pull out of the us open and do a couple od 3th round's and 2 or 3 tournaments to stay in the mix.
     
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    This is exactly right, fed is nothing but a bitter egomaniac hasbeen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Now if only Fed's backhand never retired early..
    jkjk :]

    Man has a point though.
     
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    Best post of the week! And funny, too!
     
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    So now that the tennis ship has long left the station for the old baffoon, he's got nothing better to do than sit around and spew garbage about time between points and player retirements. New and refreshing.
     
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    No, are you serious? What got her banned? I notice they deleted her posts and a bunch of other posts on the Federer thread. Was it her dissing Fed's kids that did it?
     
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    That's what most think did it. And someone said it's a week or two Time Out, not lifetime.
     
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    It is very clear that Federer has been reading talk tennis forum and reacting to the posts... about retirement and time wasting...

    :mrgreen:
     
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    She must have been banned before. This can't be the fist time. The truth is she clearly hates Federer and all of her posts reflect that but she is not unintelligent like some of the other *******s.
     
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    I hope she stays out,

    How can a woman hate on children?
     
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    Are you implying most "*******s" are unintelligent as opposed to "*******s", who are intelligent? Your bias is despicable.
     
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    Nope, if you read my statement correctly I said "some" *******s. To me veronique's hatred of Federer is clearly one of the worst but she is not an unintelligent person imo even though many of her posts annoy me to no end.
    There are a few *******s however to me on here who post nonsense and their posts make no sense.

    Also, when did I ever say all *******s were intelligent? I never said or implied that.
     
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    and this is when cc0509 can say "i rest my case" :)
     
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