Federer Fans: What would you like Federer to finish with, ideally but realistically?

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  1. World Beater

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    LMAO.

    and better than rafter, kafelnikov, etc etc.
     
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  2. World Beater

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    He CAN win 20 slams.

    I think fed will play for 3-4 more years.

    and he can prolly win a slam this yr and next...one year more he will go slamless..then he will one more on his way out.
     
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  3. Prisoner of Birth

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    More than Becker, Roddick, Safin, Ferrero, Muster and Moya, too :)
     
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  4. Netspirit

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    Clearly I know enough - last year he played a high number of lower-caliber tournaments and only got 1 slam. His #1 ranking (that he quickly lost) has nothing to do with his chances of winning slams this year - it adds nothing to this discussion and means nothing in this context.
     
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    Why is Nadal a benchmark when it comes to reigning at #1? He has been a clay-court specialist except at his peak, the clay season is short and does not provide enough points to stay at #1, especially with Federer on watch.

    17 weeks at #1 was brief in the context of our conversation with mariecon, which was about Federer's chances to win Slams this year. Why you had to mention Safin, Roddick, etc. is beyond me.
     
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  6. Paul Murphy

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    Love to see him get to 20 but I think one more is much more likely - Wimbledon.
     
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  7. joeri888

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    Play as long as possible
    Inside the top 10
    With a great tournament win in his final year (Wimbledon preferably, or another slam, or singles gold)

    Not Sure where i want him to play his final match.
     
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  8. cork_screw

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    1000 career wins.

    Can't believe you didn't list this. This is a big accomplishment, but nobody mentions it. Not too many guys on that list. Even sampras was about 230 away from that.
     
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  9. mandy01

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    One more Wimbledon. I've always said Wimbledon was his best chance at another slam. I said it last year as well, to much disagreement. I'm going to stand by that. Roger loves Wimbledon too much and imo hes likely to try his hardest there. At other slams, he knows he's at too much of a disadvantage. I don't know if he can win it this year but I had to pick one thing to cap off his career, it would most certainly be another Wimbledon title.
     
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  10. Federer20042006

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    Don't really understand the question, but this would be my ideal for final Federer numbers without wishing for pigs to fly:


    5 Australian Opens

    2 French Opens (gonna have to be this year, with the help of the draw putting Nadal on Djokovic's side, and Djokovic beating Nadal)

    8 Wimbledon

    6 US Open

    So that's 21 slams, and 1 more of each.



    Win Rome.
    8 WTF.
    Olympic singles gold.
    5-6 Indian Wells titles.
    3 Canada.
    6-7 Basel titles.

    Obviously, this is highly unlikely, but should something happen to Djokovic, and should Nadal not really return to form, or at least not for very long...it's possible.
     
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  11. kalyan4fedever

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    French open without a doubt....
     
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    He won't ever play Queen's. Signed a deal to play Halle for the rest of his career.

    http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/27155.html
     
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    You make it sound like anybody can just pick up being number 1 whenever they want. It is related to achievement you understand?
     
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    what ? if you were talking about the last shot that murray put out , i would say its definitely out , if you want more i could provide u a snapshot of that
     
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    Nadal was the benchmark because he has been the second greatest Tennis player of our time. If I had considered Djokovic, Federer's 17 weeks would look even more impressive. 17 weeks is not brief at all, whichever way you look at it. That's 4 months. A third of an year. How is that brief? What planet are you from? Do you watch Tennis?
     
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  17. mariecon

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    He had a ton of points to defend in the fall and that's why he lost the ranking.

    And could you please enlighten us on the high number of lower-caliber tournaments Fed played leading up to his #1 ranking? He played the mandatory Masters, all the grand slams, Doha which many players play to warm up for the AO and 2 500 events, Rotterdam and Dubai, as well as Halle with which he has a lifetime contract.

    and he only got 1 slam? haha. Tell me which player got more than one?
     
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  18. mariecon

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    How about this? 17 weeks is 17 weeks longer than Murray or Ferrer or Delpo or Tsonga have been #1. How's that for context?
     
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  19. mariecon

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    He's 117 wins away from that. It's certainly doable with a couple more years play at the top level.
     
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    I don't need to reconstruct anything. from what i see you are the only one who took it wrong.
     
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    20 would be great. I see him ending at 18 myself...could possibly squeeze out 19. That should put him far enough ahead of Novak hopefully. I think of all of them Novak is a bigger threat than even Nadal. Nadal's legs are screwed up.

     
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    I'd want 20 :twisted:
    There's a point, I've got no idea what his weeks at #1 stands at now! Hopefully a nice round number.
     
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  23. mariecon

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    I just checked. It's 302 weeks.
     
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    Going out with good form, I don't want to see him die slowly, drop in the rankings, and be considered just above average.
     
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  26. Wilander Fan

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    One more RG but thats it. His career stats already look like a hacked video game.
     
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    Beating Nadal in a French Open final (5 sets, with one bagel).

    Drop shot winner to end it.
     
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    You fail to understand. What do those 17 weeks (including the pause between Wimbledon and USO) have to do with his ability to win slams this year (which is what the vast majority of posters in this thread are dreaming about - scroll up)? How is reaching #1 equal to winning slams?

    Hell no. You prove you can win slams by winning slams. It is a special art, it requires special skills and special timing. It is different from racking up a bunch of points at lesser events.

    Federer only won 1 slam last year, after 2 slamless years. He beat Andy Murray who had never beaten him before in slams, had no slam to his name, had no Olympic victory. And Federer was 1 year younger, while Murray and Djokovic had less experience and confidence.

    Why is it so difficult to understand that his odds were not great last year and they are plain poor now that he is 32, that Federer is realistically, statistically, done winning slams, and may only have a few Masters left in him?
     
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    1 more Wimby/US open i think.
    Hopefully he reaches 18, 17 is enough for me otherwise.
     
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  30. mariecon

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    I have no idea what the bolded part means. And Federer won the same amount of slams last year as Djokovic, Nadal and Murray so we'll talk at the end of the year. Obviously I don't have a crystal ball but judging by his current level of play I'd say he is always in the running.
     
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  31. Tropikal_Knights

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    20 slams.........
     
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  32. Cup8489

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    Roger Federer is 31. Stop saying he is 32.
     
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  33. mariecon

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    yes and Connors and Sampras were 31 and Agassi was 32 when they won their last slam so no reason to think Federer can't win another couple as well.
     
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    Hmm, I agree. He probably wants to beat Nadal and win French.
    In fact, I think he has pretty good chance this year.

    Federer currently is being beaten at faster courts( hard courts, outdoor and indoor)
    by Djokovic and Murray and threatened by Tsonga and Berdych.

    I think Federer will have better chances at slower courts like clay or grass
    from now.
     
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  35. Prisoner of Birth

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    Grass isn't a slow surface. Get real.
     
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  36. mariecon

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    It is now.:shock:
     
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    Ok. I agree. It's slightly faster than clay. Plus it has organic bounce just like clay.

    By 2nd week, it is practically clay courts.
    That's why it's Nadal's 2nd best surface.
     
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  38. Prisoner of Birth

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    Physics says it ain't.
     
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  39. mariecon

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    Here's an interesting article on the speed of the Wimbledon courts with quotes from a lot of the top players. Almost all players agree it's slower than it was say 15 years ago but still relatively fast (certainly faster than AO and USO).

    http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2012-06-20/10022.php
     
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  40. mariecon

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    Then what did Physics do to serve and volley?:???:
     
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    Anyway, Federer has best chance to win French Open this year since
    he won it in 2009(?).

    He has better chance to beat Djokovic and Murray on organic surfaces
    with uncertain bounces like clay and grass courts.
     
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  42. Prisoner of Birth

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    Nothing. Physics is just the way things work.
     
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  43. mariecon

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    well then how do you explain the way the game has changed from serve and volley on grass to baseline tennis?
     
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  44. Prisoner of Birth

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    Simple. The surface is slower. But not slow.
     
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  46. ultradr

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    who killed serve and volleyers ?

    Slower/bouncier surfaces,
    heavier balls,
    polyester string (20% more spin), and...
    ...
    ..
    .
    Andre Agassi !
     
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    25 MS1000s is the only realistic target there. 8 WTF is possible but it has to be done in these 2 consecutive years. For me the realistic target will be:

    - 18 slams if the 18th is the French, 19 if it isn't.
    - 7 WTF
    - 26/27 MS 1000 (he's at 21 isn't he? Winning 5-6 in the next 2-3 years is still possible)
    - Forget about the Olympic gold unless he pulls a Goran.
     
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  48. NEW_BORN

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    Yeah i don't know what po$$e$$ed Fed to sign that lifetime contract with Halle, but still want to win another grass tournament other than Halle, or Wimby
     
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    I don't think MS count matters. Among the top 4, whoever is at form at that particular tournament is likely to win. But Grand slams is a different animal.

    My realistic expectation is:
    - One more grand slam
    - One more ATP WTF.
     
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  50. tusharlovesrafa

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    Grass is the fastest courts in use today,and i think Wimbledon is the fastest slam today.
     

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