Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by SuperHead, Jul 21, 2013.
Just out of interest.
Well I already root for;
- Del Potro
- Hewitt (although he'll be gone before Federer I think)
Might have missed a couple. So I'll be rooting for those guys I expect. Murray too when he's playing aggressively. Most of my focus will be on the new guys, just hoping they'll all start to step up soon.
JJ and Djokovic
If Federer wants to retire before he becomes a complete non-threat and does so (which is entirely his choice):
1) i'll continue to root against nadal hard until he's irrelevant
then quit tennis until an American male singles player is a REAL slam contender... i.e. IN a final
What reason is there to continue watching once you've seen the best? Anything else will be inferior
Novak,JJ, Tsonga and maybe Dimitrov later if he can harness his talent FULLY or atleast reaches Haas's level. Hardly get to watch Dimi since his matches aren't always on TV.
Can't forgive DelPo for USO 09 but yea it's hard not to like his humility and doesn't grind so fine by me.
Berdych is a guilty pleasure, he hits the most effortless yet powerful FH since Fed but dislikable to fully root for. Also hate how he always is in the zone against Fed but mugs out against Murray,Novak and Ralph.
Can't stand Tomic, Ugly game, nonchalant body language, ugly jaw(worse than Murrays), cheater,weird but ugly FH. So much goodness in one guy,gives good competition to Ralph in the ugliness dept. Apart from what he has to say about Roger in his presser after losing, there's not much to admire.
Don't mind Raonic but I wish he could do something about his ground game,could be such a force if it improves by about 10% even,esp BH.
LOL@Fed fans becoming a fan of Murray/Nadal, goodluck with that especially the latter. :lol:
But even with all these names that I just mentioned, I'm mostly curious to see if Ralph passes first of all Pete's slam count and then ofcourse the countdown begins for Fed. No prizes for guessing who I'll be rooting for when Ralph is on court.
What a BASIC troll. The most simple and half-thought of them all.
Chill Mike Chill!
Delpo and maybe Dimitrov...
He can't forgive Delpo for beating Fed at ONE slam. It explains his obssession about Rafa, lol.
You beat me to it Crisstii! Poor Monfed, Del Porto hurt his feelings. Can you imagine the level of hatred he must harbour for Nadal then.
I don't even think I'll keep watching tennis.
That ONE slam would have given him the Open era record at the USO and would've made him the undisputed USO GOAT which for me is even more important than his tied status with Pete at Wimby(an argument could be made for Pete still) but on USO it would be unanimous. So yea damn Delpo for being the party pooper,for all the praise he showers on Fed he sure has done some serious damage to his legacy(took a leaf out of your idol's book? they both say Vamos so maybe they have something in common? )
I wonder if you'd express the same concern(which you're showing for Delpo), if Novak had stopped Ralph at RG 2012 disabling Ralph from breaking Borg's record of 6 RG titles or even stopping him this year and disabling him to win a record 8 RGs(an open era record at a single slam).
Heck you've barely forgiven Soderling and he beat Ralph just ONCE there and Fed ended up becoming GOAT. What a tragedy.
I'll pretty much continue to be a tennis fan, I expect...
I'm glad nobody voted for Nadal in the poll- we want Nadal's greatness to permanently burn an image into the Federer fans' minds.
More important than the US Open Goat would be the fact, that Fed would have won a Fed slam*, had he won that US Open.
*Though he did win the Aus Open 2010, you can't be completely sure, he would have, had there been a Fed slam on the line. But needless to say, he was far and away the best player in that tournament.
I don't think Delpo made that much of a difference. What cost Fed the ultimate greatness is Nadal at RG 2006 and RG 2007. Think about what Fed's legacy would be if he had 1 or 2 CYGS to his name!!!
It could easily be the case that Federer fell apart in the fifth set when he came upon the realisation that he WASN'T going to be the first male player in world history to win slams on clay, grass and hard-court all in a calendar year. Then 2010 came and Nadal became the first man to do it. I guess that's another reason for Federer's flaccid 2010.
Tsonga is missing from the poll - I believe quite a few Fed fans like him.
In the Big Four, I root for Djoko (and an aggressive minded Murray – heck, can even occasionally root for Nadal, if/when he plays faster, more aggressively (flatttens out his forehand) and with less MTO's)
Outside Big Four:
Tsonga, Delpo, Haas, Wawrinka, Dimitrov (if/when he grows), Janowicz - and Raonic, not so much for his game, but I like his demeanor and I saw him from the front row against Simon at the US Open - served 13 aces in one set - that impressed me quite a bit.
Hence why most Fed fans dislike Nadal quite a lot more than Delpo (whom most Fed fans to my knowledge like quite a bit - despite the US Open loss)
Edit: part of the reason. Another is his game, his timewasting, his MTO's and all that other stuff, that we in the Fed came perceive as Rafa's cheating tactics and "wrong" way of playing tennis
Probably no one, I've already decreased do worship of a lot of the tourneys I use to watch because I said I wasn't in the more he didn't make it after that point. I don't know I do enjoy watching djokovic and dimitrov but not enough to make me watch a full tournament or even a full match. Watching today's tennis has become almost as boring as baseball or golf to me. I need to see some beautiful shots and aggressive play.
* decreased viewership not do worship
Lol - that could easily be the case yes
As far as I recall, nobody were discussing the feat prior to the final, nor prior to Nadal's US Open final in 2010. It only became a big deal afterwards - big deal on TT that is.
The big deal in 2010 with Nadal's win was the fact that he completed the career slam - not that he won on clay, grass and hard (though it is a nice topping on the cake)
Why is there a need to just be a fan of one person? Can't we just be a fan of all of those listed and more equally?
So basically you're asking us to understand why you're mad at Delpo for beating Federer once, when according to you I'm not allowed to dislike Djokovic for 7 straight, 3 at slams, and absolutely RIDICULOUS celebrations after most of those victories? :lol: OH the hypocrisy!!
Umm only problem in your comparison is that Fed was always the underdog against Ralph at RG(esp after what transpired at Rome) despite what the ranking showed at both RG 06 and 07 and it would've still been somewhat of a shock had he beaten Ralph there,the matchup was so unfavourably loaded in Ralph's favour.
OTOH Delpo was much easier to takeout at the USO, infact it's not a comparison but a nobrainer of which one was doable.
So I while I understand you'd like to think that your saviour Ralph destroyed the hopes and dreams of a billion Fed fans at RG 06 and 07, it simply isn't the case because we didn't build castles in the air in the first place. Hindsight is 50-50.
Already a fan of Dimi, no matter win or lose. Play style is secs compared to other players on tour. Classic play style 4eva!
I just meant that would have been by far the bigger achievement. Nobody has been as close to the CYGS in open era since 1969.
Looking at it from hindsight it probably appears that way to you that if Fed had won RG 06 and 07 he'd have won 2 consecutive CYGS or even 1 CYGS but it doesn't work that way because tennis or any sport for that matter is unpredictable. If we play that game then Fed had a shot at a CYGS in 09 too had he won both his HC slams in 09(was one set away from winning both AO and USO FYI) which is technically more doable for him than beating Ralph at RG(he's never even come close to winning)
Ralph missed his CYGS at 2010 and more importantly his "Ralph slam" at AO 2011 since Laver's CYGS in 69.
Seriously though I think Novak had the best shot of winning the CYGS in 2011 since Laver's 69 if he had only got the job done against grandpa Fed at RG 2011.,should've been easy peasy for peak Novak.
yeah, I'm sure Juan Martin has sleepless nights because some insignificant troll cannot forgive him for winning the USO lol. Go back to bashing Nadal, leave Juan Martin alone loser!!
Yes, especially Monfed and Miss Magnus lol
they will root for just about anybody that can beat the clay warrior.
Even I agreed with this at one point but I think it's safe to say it's a myth. He crushed Rafa at MC this year and still should have lost at RG in straights. It doesn't really matter what courts he beats Rafa on or how many times, doing it on Chatrier is something else entirely, as seen in 2012 and 2013.
I know. It's pretty damn hilarious isn't it? :lol:
clay warrior cannot be defeated at a RG final.
I voted for Dimitrov but he's a work in progress. I'd love to see Tsonga get it together and also Del Potro of the current guys who are really up there.
Why is Tomic in the poll, comedy value? Even if he was three times the player he is he is galactiaclly unloveable and uncheerable. He is surely a natural born anti-hero.
I've always been a big fan Of Haas and will continue to be.
the sport is way bigger than any of the individual stars.
either you are a huge fan of the sport or you are not.
there are always bass fishing tournaments for you if you don't love the sport.
very easy to follow and no emotional attachment is needed or required to the fish or the fisherman.
huh? you mean the most talented tennis player to ever walk on earth, with 10,000 different gameplans and sublime mastery och all court tennis is an underdog when playing a 1 trick pony with only a moonball at his disposal? :shock:
Janowicz in the lead, I like what I am seeing !!! I hope he doesn't disappoint.
He likely will disappoint don't worry. All of these young guys have been hyped up to the rafters and they have all been disappointments.
I would root for Dimitrov.
There are a lot of things about Del Potro that I don't like. He wastes an enormous amount of time in his matches, he acts like he is an inch from death during his matches, and he doesn't have a good transition game. However, the guy is just likable; he has natural charisma. He made a lot of people laugh during that Wimbledon semifinal without even trying.
JJ haven't disappointed anyone yet, so its a fairly good chance he wont. He has the game already, seems really hungry for titles and he is not afraid of top players, that's a good recipe for success.
We'll see. He is a big guy and they are always more prone to injuries. I agree with you that he looks like he is hungry and not afraid of the top players so that is good but I don't like his temper on court. He has made a fool of himself a few times already.
Except I wasn't calling DelPo my second fav player before USO 09 and don't HATE him like you hate the gorilla(not even close :lol: )
I'm sure Juan Martin appreciates your dedication of dispatching the haters/trolls like myself away from his fanbase, Incogville. :lol:
Tell that to Soderling who comfortably smashed Ralph off the court in 09.
And no Novak didn't "crush" Ralph at MC this year. Ralph was serving for the second set at MC and inexplicably dropped serve just like he did while serving for the match in the 4th at RG 2013. In 2011, Ralph was moonballing BHs on slow clay Rome just to stay in the match. Djokovic barely made any UEs in Rome and his BH was on absolute fire in both Madrid and Rome.
Djokovic in 2013 is 2.0? :lol: He made 75 UEs in their semi. 75,that's more than what Fed makes. Djokovic 2.0 didn't make that many in a tournament,let alone a match. But yea continue worshipping St Ralph, if he loses it must be him.
Fed fans are too sycophantic to root for anyone else but if they allow their heads to rule their hearts they will become fans of the most watchable player - Nadal.
I can't understand why RFederer haters are voting in this poll
It clearly states: "RFederer fans"
??? I don't HATE anyone, Djokovic included. I've said about 700,000 times now I respect his game and think he's a great guy off court. I'll put this in caps for you so maybe you can understand it. The ONLY thing I don't like about him IS HIS ATTITUDE AND/OR CELEBRATIONS AFTER HE WINS SOMETIMES AND I THINK HE IS TOO COCKY. You make it out to be so much more than what it is. I think he looks like an absolute fool trying to make the crowd like him and getting mad when they don't and using profane language. I don't care who it is. If Nadal started acting the way Novak did in 2011 I'll drop his *** too.
More fuel for the "weak era comedy fire" if anything :|
Assuming Federer doesn't do a Connors on us and plays till he's like 100, I'd switch to Murray and enjoy his career a bit more (no more feeling torn watching Fedurray/Murderer [:lol:] matches!).
If not, then I'd like to start keeping on eye on Tomic.
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