Federer + Fatherhood = No more Grand Slams

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by jorel, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. jorel

    jorel Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2004
    Messages:
    2,488

    Has he lost the edge?… He didn’t even seem upset at losing the Final

    Has fatherhood given him some perspective and therefore a less obsessive desire to add onto his greatness?


    (if he never wins another in the FUTURE.. i want the credit for calling it!!!):confused:
     
    #1
  2. jrepac

    jrepac Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2009
    Messages:
    1,387
    fatherhood

    maybe it has mellowed him a bit....but Agassi and Connors won slams after they became daddies....not sure why it would be a problem
     
    #2
  3. bhallic24

    bhallic24 Guest

    fed needs to get some sleep. Tell mirka to milk for those babies cuz papa's gotta bring home the dough.
     
    #3
  4. mandy01

    mandy01 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Messages:
    11,518
    its not going to be easy..especially with him having twins.But hey,he's done all he could and I'm sure he'll still try :D
    He's happy,thats all that matters.
     
    #4
  5. ExarionUniverse19

    ExarionUniverse19 New User

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Messages:
    30
    We asked this same question after Wimbledon last year and the Australian Open this year. Both times, Federer responded with a dominant performance in the next GS final.

    Is he as "obsessed" about winning as he was before the 15th GS? No. Is he still the best player? Yes.

    Federer will continue to win slams as long as he remains healthy and Nadal doesn't. Regardless of what happened last night, he's still in a league of his own.
     
    #5
  6. larry10s

    larry10s Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2008
    Messages:
    3,976
    ^^^^^ very astute comments
     
    #6
  7. Bud

    Bud Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Messages:
    31,165
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    He wasn't a father, then :oops:

    The title of this thread - "Federer + Fatherhood = No more Grand Slams"
     
    #7
  8. Stinkdyr

    Stinkdyr Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2004
    Messages:
    1,246
    Yep, Fed is a fat happy father now. Fed must be regretting those charity points and games he threw in the 2nd set. And his serve % was low throughout. He should have used a strategy of making the big guy cover more court side to side to exhaust him. And finally, Fed ran out of gas in the 5th cuz he is entering the twilight of his career.
     
    #8
  9. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,798
    Clijsters + motherhood = many more Grand Slams
    Davenport + motherhood = No more Grand Slams
    Navratilova + motherhood = let us not go there
    Hewitt + fatherhood = No more Grand Slams
    Roddick + anything = No more Grand Slams
     
    #9
  10. David L

    David L Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,581
    Location:
    London
    No. He will continue to win Slams.
     
    #10
  11. ExarionUniverse19

    ExarionUniverse19 New User

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Messages:
    30
    Fatherhood might take away from Federer's time, but it won't change the fact that he's the most skilled player on the tour, except maybe Nadal. But Nadal, who always ends up on the opposite side of the draw, can't seem to make it to finals these days.

    Federer is - and you might even get him to admit it - on the decline of his career, both mentally and physically. But a decline from 15 slams is a lot different than a decline from 3-4 slams. He'll probably win 2-3 more before it's all said and done. I can only see that not happening if 1) Federer retires, or 2) Nadal starts making finals again.
     
    #11
  12. David L

    David L Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,581
    Location:
    London
    I think he's going to win more than 2-3, provided he remains healthy and motivated.
     
    #12
  13. Cyan

    Cyan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    3,372
    Stats don't lie. In the past 20 yrs, fathers only managed to win 1 slam or no slams at all. So the best case scenario he wins 1 more...
     
    #13
  14. zagor

    zagor Talk Tennis Guru

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    Messages:
    25,781
    Location:
    Weak era
    Welcome back David L.
     
    #14
  15. jrepac

    jrepac Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2009
    Messages:
    1,387
    Sleep!

    LOL! Yes, Fed has earned the right to his sleep, I think....

    let Mamma feed the kiddies while he saves his energy for his youthful opponents...
     
    #15
  16. jrepac

    jrepac Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2009
    Messages:
    1,387
    red herring

    Having kids and "not winning" may just be coincidental.....Evonne Goolagong beat Evert at Wimbledon after becoming a mom...quite a feat....and didn't connors win at least 3 slams after he became a dad (not just 1)?

    it may be a psychological thing, I suppose...can you fully focus on your tennis when the kiddies are around?
     
    #16
  17. David L

    David L Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,581
    Location:
    London
    Hello zagor. Thanks.
     
    #17
  18. GoDawgs2011

    GoDawgs2011 New User

    Joined:
    May 14, 2009
    Messages:
    82
    Haha, using this logic right before Wimbledon, you could have said
    "Stats don't lie. In the past 20 years, no one has won more than 14 grandslams. So best case scenario, he wins 0 more..."

    I was surprised that he didn't care as much either- but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the ability to win or that he won't win.
     
    #18
  19. Cyan

    Cyan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    3,372
    It is different. Very few players can win more than 10 slams. So it has not been put to test too often. But many fathers have played pro tennis in the past 20 yrs and that has been put to test more often.
     
    #19
  20. rocket

    rocket Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 23, 2005
    Messages:
    1,538
    Winning a slam takes a lot out of you. Many ppl don't realize that & expect Fed to win day-in & day-out. He already won 2 slams this year, just became a dad, just turned 28 was once again in the USO final. That's quite an achievement for a 28-yr-old.
     
    #20
  21. amx13

    amx13 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2006
    Messages:
    509
    I think it has nothing to do with fatherhood...its all about his serve. If he serves like he did on the wimbledon final, he will win at least another 2 slams. If he serves like last night, it will be hard for him to win another one.
     
    #21
  22. ArrowSmith

    ArrowSmith Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2009
    Messages:
    427
    Guys, he's winning the CYGS in 2010.
     
    #22
  23. Cyan

    Cyan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    3,372
    ^ :lol: ...............
     
    #23

  24. Do I know what product I'm selling? No...
    Do I know what I'm doing today? No...

    But I'm here, and I'm gonna give it my best shot...
     
    #24
  25. Purostaff

    Purostaff Banned

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Messages:
    754
    Location:
    Rotating round thing in an infinitely empty space
    yea he's lost the edge, his draw was a joke and choked away the final...

    I'd say he's a little less arrogrant, but that's subjective
     
    #25
  26. GoDawgs2011

    GoDawgs2011 New User

    Joined:
    May 14, 2009
    Messages:
    82
    Perhaps but along those same lines, how many of those fathers have had the skill and ability that Federer has?

    All I'm saying is that as it pertains to attempts to try to predict Federer's future, precedent means very little.
     
    #26

Share This Page