Federer "gamesmanship" and Nadal gamesmanship+cheating were not the same.

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  1. mandy01

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    .Awww...poor Rafito the big bad officials/journos et al are out to get him.
    I wonder why they fined AND criticised Roger when he used profanity at the USO though-They're all buddies afterall :lol:
     
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  2. CMM

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    http://tennis.fanhouse.com/2010/01/28/roger-federer-gives-new-meaning-to-being-no-1/

    *LOL at Tsonga's answer :lol:
     
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    And Nadal didn't break any rule when he asked for a MTO.
    Stop using double standards.
     
  5. mandy01

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    FYI I never said he did so I'm not sure why you're quoting me.
     
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    Fedturds are activated since

    1) their idol lost No.1 place in the rankings and is sobbing bitterly about it

    2) their idol hasn't won a single title since February, including minor events like Estoril and Halle where there was no competition

    3) their idol is declining rapidly and is not considered a favourite for anything any more

    4) their idol is called Whiffmeister even by the journalists, because he can't drive his racket into the ball properly
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    Poor turdies convert their frustration to hatred. No other emotions left, no?
     
  7. namelessone

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    How do these trolls NOT get banned?
     
  8. mandy01

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    It's blinkism's fault.Not sure how and don't care either.I just know it is.
     
  9. Rippy

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    Check the youtube vid of that portion of the match, in the series of vids of the whole match. He was gone for 2 minutes. :)

    (Yes, the person making the video could have edited it, but they bothered to include the adverts. Also, he was gone in the vid for exactly 2 minutes, I doubt the person would have edited the video to be the perfect length of time for between sets.)
     
  10. mandy01

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    There..it's on youtube as well.:)
     
  11. fed_rulz

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    It was already pointed out to him, but he chose to ignore it, and is just trolling now.
     
  12. cueboyzn

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    Poor Fed-haters convert their frustration to hatred. Face Facts. 16 GS = GOAT. :twisted:
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il-9msTW4gE

    Watch from 5.47 to 7.43. Way longer than 2 minutes? :lol:
     
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    Nadal wasn't injured, and that's enough to show what he did was a cowardly move on his part.
     
  15. TheTruth

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    I no longer have the match. He said it. That's good enough for me. Whether he lied the first time (when he said it), or later when he denied it, people believe what they want to believe, right?

    Why wouldn't he come back and say that after making such an omission on TV? Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a circular argument, because I believe he did exactly what he said, and no one's convincing me otherwise. And I'm not checking the weather for the sun's position on that day and time.
     
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    No. You're supposed to get fined for using profanity. Others players get fined all the time. They can be buddies all they want, but some things they just can't let that go.

    This situation has nothing to do with Rafa.
     
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    The toilet break Fed took lasted 2 minutes, which is not over the time allowed between sets.
     
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    It doesn't matter how long he took. He admitted to gamesmanship. That's the bottom line. Everything else to me sounds like excuses.

    Then again, people look at things differently. I happen to agree with Couch.
     
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    He admitted to no such thing.Obviously you don't even remember correctly what he said and are determined to hang on to one toilet break :lol:
    Whatever :lol:
     
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    What did he say anyway? What admission are we talking about here?Like I said nothing in his tone or in his words indicated any seriousness(unless you took him seriously while he showed "one centimetre" on his finger with a grin).And again Roger has said in a presser that he dosen't take interviews with Courier seriously.
    Their intervies,more often than not,are light-hearted.
    Anyway,the gamesmanship never happened.So Nadal fans can believe what they want.
     
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    Of course it does.
    You can't take the fact that poor Rafito was fined and criticised and are clinging onto an incident you don't even remember correctly.

    That's why you resort to.."ooo they don't call Rogi out because they're all buddies" stuff.
     
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    First of all, fantastic bump, after 2 1/2 years.

    Secondly, who made the assumption that the left side of the chair is traditionally reserved for the higher ranked player?
     
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    Some TV reporter. Is this some unwritten rule maybe? I wouldn't really know, but if you dont than it probably doesnt exist.
     
  26. woodrow1029

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    I have never heard of that in my entire life/career as an umpire. Now it could be that some tournaments (like in this case where they put the players' names on the towels) put the higher ranked player's towels on the left seat of the umpire, but did the players know it? Who knows. But to say it's "Tradition", I think that's BS.
     
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    Not this thread again.
     
  29. merlinpinpin

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    Odd article on absolutely nothing--where the heck did these guys find this (non-existant) "tradition"?

    Pure rubbish, I'm afraid.

    Edit: did a bit of checking on the Internet:
    2007 Wimbledon final--Nadal (lower-ranked than Federer) sat on the left
    2008 Wimbledon final--ditto

    So it looks like Wimbledon, the seat of tradition in tennis, doesn't know of this dubious "tradition". Big surprise here... :roll:
     
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  30. merlinpinpin

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    Judging by your reaction, I guess you are, actually. This is either a hoax or someone who don't know what they're talking about, sosome checking would be advised before jumping on the anti-evil-Swiss bandwagon...
     
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    Nadal is such a diva, terrible sportmanship.
     
  32. Tony48

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    Watch the replay. It's usually tradition to sit in the chair with your name on it. But something like that won't stop Federer, as he went straight to the bench that had Djokovic's towel draped across it.

    Moments later, when Djokovic walks out, his towel has magically moved to the other bench.
     
  33. Hood_Man

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    If only Federer was German rather than Swiss German, there's a joke about beach towels and benches in this somewhere.
     
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    Right, because so many of us noticed it the first time we watched it, and didn't have to go back and watch the ESPN3 replay after this stupid article came out.

    It's also ridiculous to say that Djokovic seemed annoyed by it as he entered the stadium. What ever gave anyone that impression? Does anyone really think he cared? LOL. It's not the first stupid article Chris Chase has written, either.
     
  35. Lemoned

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    It seems like it was an unwritten rule in this tournament. Every match the lower ranked player entered the court first and took the right side bench. I'm sure the players all knew it. I'm not sure if he did it with intention or not though.

    Even if it was a genuine mistake, you can't blame Nole for being annoyed by it (again, if he was indeed). For us, it may mean nothing but it's a privilege after all, which Nole hasn't enjoyed that much.
     
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  36. beast of mallorca

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    Federer always plays mind games. But Novak will have none of that....:twisted:
     
  37. Ms Nadal

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    Roger isn't peRFect after all. Everyone always bashes Rafa. They should give him a break. All of the players engage in sportmanship anyway, even the GOAT!
     

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