Federer-Murray Shanghai 2012 semi-finals

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Federer vs Murray

  1. Federer in 2

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  2. Federer in 3

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  3. Murray in 2

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  4. Murray in 3

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  1. ark_28

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    Come on guys some of this stuff is getting crazy! I am no fan of Murray BUT he's actually shown himself to be very classy and humble in victory when he won the US Open after coming close so many times no one would have begrudged him for celebrating like a mad man but he didn't! Even today he didn't overdo his celebration it's not disrespect to Federer its just being classy also! They came back for just one game he held the match was over! It's harder to really feel as emotional to celebrate after a win when it's just been a few points and over than if the flow of the match had been uninterrupted IMHO
     
  2. tennis_pro

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    He has a demeanor comparable to Sampras. Even you liked his game, there's just something repulsive about them.

    I don't fancy Djokovic's tennis AT ALL yet he's a likable guy and I don't mind him winning.
     
  3. ledwix

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    Congrats to Murray. His rivalry with Djokovic is definitely heating up this year; before 2011 they barely had any matches because of Fedal.
     
  4. Duncan Bell

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    Feds was pretty awful at times, but some of Andy's winners (particularly returns) were stunning.
     
  5. All-rounder

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    It's that easy for him :twisted:
     
  6. Mainad

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    It was certainly a very subdued performance from Federer. Missing too many serves (normally his strongest feature) and hitting too many errors. Maybe the quality of Murray's returns just unsettles him, especially on hardcourts. It was not their greatest encounter in Shanghai (see the 2010 final for that) or anywhere else for that matter.

    Murray hitting some great returns. He'll need to keep that up against the greatest returner in the game if he is to have a chance of retaining his Shanghai title tomorrow!
     
  7. Crayola Oblongata

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    Well, rubbish. Only happy for batz.
     
  8. batz

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    Thanks mate - you're making me blush. :oops::)

    Sexi wasn't at his best today, Murray had a great returning day; one of those things.
     
  9. norbac

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    2008 was a much better match.
     
  10. batz

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    That was an amazing match. Murray ran himself into the ground and the wee small hours of the morning to beat Sexi.
     
  11. kishnabe

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    Murray played real well compared to the prev matches. Federer was weird especially when he gave the break in the 2nd set.

    Murray better take out Djokovic for Federer Number 1 Ranking.
     
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    Djokovic at the moment have 1740 points lead over Federer on the ATP Race list, it's gonna be very hard for Fed!
     
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    Since when is Berdych ranked 4th in the world? He was SEEDED 4th,but he is NOT ranked that high.
     
  14. Gonzo_style

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    Yes i mean he was seeded 4th, and he is a bigger treat than Ferrer!
     
  15. 3fees

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    I'm Surprize'd,,,Murray won in two
     
  16. TheTruth

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    Glad Murray won. What the heck was that in the first game of the second set? (I'm just now watching it). There was no reason to stop play in case the rain got worse.:::cough,excuse,, cough:

    So slick, or is he?
     
  17. beast of mallorca

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    Wrong thread .....oooops
     
  18. cc0509

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    Murray's muted reactions are a lot better than Djokovic's over the top gorilla antics.
     
  19. TheTruth

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    Exactly. It won't be a walk in the park by any means. Wiping the floor with him? I don't understand how people can think that.

    Go Murray!
     
  20. tennis_pro

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    I think you missed "hope" before that sentence. Of course it's going to be tough for either player.
     
  21. TheTruth

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    Didn't he just come back from a break?I thought I saw a headline saying he was tired. You can't take time off and come back and be up to snuff against the top two who are battle tested.
     
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    Any interview links? What did Federer have to say about his performance?
     
  23. TMF

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    LOL...Nadal fans wish Murray to win and hope Fed and Nole to loss every time. Obviously they don't want Fed to win more and Nole is catching up with Nadal.
     
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    You mean like Federer did in 2011 when he took his six week break after the DC in Australia to win Basel, Paris and the YEC in London? :rolleyes:

    If you are going to make a comment at least make sure it is factual.
     
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    Nole catching up with Nadal? LOL.
     
  27. TheTruth

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    Really? Nadal's been playing at an elite level since he came on tour. He didn't have the benefit of all his peers going MIA. How is he lucky? He learned on the fly and managed to beat what many consider the GOAT regularly although he was five years younger. Fed was lucky Haas, Safin, Nalbandian, etc. were either ill, or on walkabout during his reign. It's not to say that he wouldn't still have the same results, we'll never know. But if you dissect the entire picture, Federer does come out looking lucky, whether it's his fault or not.

    Posts like this are head scratchers. Nadal was lucky to have won when he got there, after he had been honing his game and reaching SF's? Strange logic.
     
  28. cc0509

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    Djokovic is catching up to Nadal? Nadal has six slams over Djokovic, the same number Federer has over Nadal. Djokovic is not catching up to Nadal so fast just as Nadal is not catching up to Federer in all probability.
     
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    No surpise coming from Towser,who disappeared when Cvac was losing slam finals,and getting bageled in masters finals by Fed. He's a gloryhunter,and is only back because Cvac is winning again. When Cvac starts losing(hopefully soon),he will disappear again,only to return when Cvac starts winning. It's hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.
     
  30. ST_spitzertelescope

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    Hi, just got back in the house. Totally missed this match. Anywhere to watch it online? Want to see the full match, not just 5 minute highlights.

    Thanks!
     
  31. cc0509

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    What is he going to say? The truth is he is getting older and has really lost a step or two, it is very noticeable in his footwork. No great tennis player can stop time. It is going to be tough for Federer to keep beating Murray and Djokovic over and over, that is just reality.
     
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    I'm not talking about just slam but career achievement as a whole. Nole keep on winning(e.g. shanghai) he gets another MS, and if he wins WTF he's 2 to 0 up on Nadal.

    I dont' think any Nadal fans root for Nole when he play anywhere.
     
  33. Crayola Oblongata

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    Thank you for the info. And yes, you're a classy poaster....I think I'm kinda coming round to Murray. Only kinda!
     
  34. Netspirit

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    You are making this up. His form was noticeably worse at the Olympics just 3 weeks after Wimbledon. His form fluctuates more depending on his practice and match play, the age factor acts more slowly. You can compare entire seasons based on age, not back-to-back tournaments.
     
  35. NadalAgassi

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    Nadal is the undisputed and hands down clay court GOAT, has won multiple slams on all 3 major surfaces, was either #1 or #2 in the World for almost every week for about 7 years, won atleast 1 slam 8 years in a row. The only way Djokovic wil be considered greater is if Nadal retires immediately, Djokovic wins atleast 12 slams, Djokovic wins atleast 1 French, and Djokovic probably has another 2011 like year. Right now Nadal on clay >>>>>>>> Djokovic on hard courts, Nadal on grass >>>> Djokovic on grass or clay, Nadal on hard courts > Djokovic on grass or clay. The two arent even anywhere close career wise as we speak.

    As for the last part speak for yourself. I root for Djokovic whenever he plays Federer or Murray, except a slam final in Murray's case up until now as I wanted Murray to get the monkey off his back.

    Djokovic is nearly the same age as Nadal. The chances of him surpassing Nadal are so tiny, they are even significantly less than Nadal surpassing Federer (who is 5 years older) and even that is unlikely at this point.
     
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  36. cc0509

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    I wish I was making it up! :(
     
  37. ctoth666

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    Federer is pretty hit or miss these days isn't he? If he's not at his best, he just doesn't get it done anymore.
     
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    Federer is only going to show flashes of brilliance from now on :( but we atleast get to watch him!!
     
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    Fixed that for you.

    It's the same situation for all the Big Four. Whoever's closer to peak form that day wins.
     
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    H2H: 10-8 for Murray

    Murray > Federer. Not that that is anything new. We all knew this since the olympics.
     
  41. ST_spitzertelescope

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    Any links of this full match? missed it:(
     
  42. TheTruth

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    Correctamundo! I did miss hope. But, people do say that a lot even though Novak and Andy's matches have always been competitive.
     
  43. TheTruth

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    That sounds like an honest assessment. He struggled with Wawrinka. It's too hard to come back from a break and be raring to go. His timing was a bit off, but he still hasn't lost too much. It's really amazing.
     
  44. TheTruth

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    Hi Clarky!
     
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    True overall but on hard court, Djokovic will be considered better than Nadal: twice as many slams, twice as many masters, WTF and twice and a half as many titles. And the gap may keep widening in the future since Djoko is a year younger than Rafa. (And if Murray wins another slam on hard, he will be considered a better hard court player than Rafa as well since he also has twice as many titles on the surface and more master titles).
    Of course, nobody (past, present or future) will ever equal Rafa on clay. I'm willing to bet that nobody will even come close... and I also agree that no one will ever dominate a surface as absolutely as Rafa is dominating clay (not just Djokovic, no one).
     
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    It's been mentioned before, and if you've never experienced it, I envy you: the smallest amount of rain can make hard courts really slippery. I've really hurt my hip when my foot slipped, causing my leg to bend at the knee the opposite of indian style.. all because I thought "a little rain can't hurt". That sucked something awful :(

    I will admit though, I busted out laughing when, in the middle of Federer arguing over stopping play, they started playing "Rain Drops Keep Fallin On My Head", LOL
     
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    :lol: we ALL did didn't we..
     
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    Murray is finally becoming the force that I had predicted a few years ago. It was about time. Go Andy!
     
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    Nah, for a lot longer than that:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=280925

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=3798444&postcount=1

    Though of course with the Olympics being far more important than slams (or anything in tennis for that matter), that loss sealed the deal.


    Furthemore, don't you dare even imply Fed's best tennis came in 2004-2007 or sensible neutral posters like TTMR (who of course who don't mind people saying Nadal's peak lasted a little over a year, Novak's a year and Murray's started when he hooked up with Lendl) will hunt you down.
     

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