Federer-Nadal WTF Finals RR 2011

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Federer vs Nadal WTF Finals RR 2011

  1. Federer in 2

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  2. Federer in 3

    30.6%
  3. Nadal in 2

    3.5%
  4. Nadal in 3

    11.2%
  1. bullfan

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    I just want to see a really good Fed-Nadal match..... I don't know how many more of them we'll get...... So, I hope we get 2 in this tournament.
     
  2. veroniquem

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    Yep. Just like clay: 5-1 in the Hamburg first set and then loses it 5-7. Good old days :)
     
  3. veroniquem

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    I don't understand your logic. Fed has played Rafa 3 times at WTF (and vs a more dominant Rafa than this year) and he has NEVER choked on that surface, quite the opposite. Why would he start now :confused:
    This is the ONLY surface where Fed feels supremely confident vs Rafa. If he loses, it will be because of not keeping up with the pace, intensity, being a bit slower, lack of focus or something like that, it will clearly not be a confidence issue, especially since Fed just won the Paris master for the first time while Rafa arrives at WTF after some shaky results and a long break.
     
  4. jaggy

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    TW threaders favour the Fed overwhelmingly
     
  5. veroniquem

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    That MIGHT be a good sign for Rafa actually. TW threaders tend to be wrong a lot :)
     
  6. Sentinel

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    Same here, except that its at 1:30 AM my time. I guess I'll catch the replay at 3:30pm.

    And who says this is not RAfa's surface. Rafa was very tired in last years final. He has never lost when healthy, or fresh. In fact, now he wins even when sick and barfing. Clearly his level has risen beyond even 2009-10. This is his prime-peak.
     
  7. Sentinel

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    I just saw the poll results. LOL. A bunch of delusional fed fans voting for him even when he's doggone tired.
     
  8. RF20Lennon

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    Maybe but this is not one of those times. :) FEDERER FOR LIFE!!!!
     
  9. RF20Lennon

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    yes defintely when you have people like Mardy Fish who choke in the end even im at my peak.
     
  10. rofl_copter3

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    Nadal can claim sick or whatever it comes down to he is screwed up in the head right now and on a court that doesnt treat his style of play too nice. Federer has been pretty sharp up til last match, and most likely playing Nadal will focus him and hopefully result in great tennis from him
     
  11. Towser83

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    The surface doesn't effect his mental state, and he has choked against Nadal a lot before, he'll be ahead then play a bad point and lose it and start coming in at the wrong time, or dump a 2nd serve into the net on breakpoint. He only needs Nadal to break him (one bad service game) and it could happen. It might not, but it could. I mean Federer had never choked a match away to nadal on grass until 2008...fisrt time for everything (EDIT he didn't choke the match away but he choked in it, everytime he got break point).

    In 2006 and 2006 he was both a better player and he had wins at Wimbledon he was coming off (in terms of last meetings with Nadal) and that 2007 win brought the H2H to 8-6 in Federer's favour, so really he was not getting beaten by Nadal almost every time - he had much less mental scars against the guy. Last year he played very well and his backhand was a weapon, but that doesn't mean it will be like this every match.

    I'm surprised that people can say Nadal is such a big underdog on the basis of 3 matches over 5 years. It's just a sea of overconfident Federer fans and Nadal fans making him super underdog so that when the inevitable happens and Nadal does beat Federer at the WTF at last (maybe not this year, but some year in the future), it will be hailed as a monumental feat, when in reality against a 30 year old Federer it's probably 50/50 at worst. I mean if they had met 6 or 7 times indoor and Federer had won every one, fair enough although age still catches up with you. But 3 meetings? Not a lot to base the belief that even an older Federer has it in the bag.

    Do't get me wrong, I think Federer playing well and not choking would win 9 times out of 10 indoors, but I can't rely on both those things happening. I mean I think a Federer playing his best would have the edge on most hardcourt and grass just like Nadal would be virtually unbeatable on clay, but the H2H hasn't worked out like that
     
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  12. ThoughtCrime

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    Your common sense and fair points are not welcome on this board. You must pick a player and worship him irrationally like a deity.
     
  13. RF20Lennon

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    LOL HAHAHA
     
  14. Towser83

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    I'm sorry, I'll try harder :lol:
     
  15. Towser83

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    And I wouldn't rule that out on any surface. I remember watching that and as soon as he got broken at 5-1 I turned to my brother and said "He won't even get to a tiebreak, he'll lose this 7-5"

    What's good old days about it though? Nadal still wins nearly every match they play, not like much has actually changed :lol:
     
  16. DragonBlaze

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    Agreed. I am so jealous you are going to be at the match! Hopefully its a good one!
     
  17. Fedalfan

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    Me too! Really jealous of all those who get to watch this live![​IMG]
     
  18. MichaelNadal

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    Federer's polo looks soooooooo nice compared to Rafa's kit. It's too thin and baggy. Anyway, why is Rafa holding the racquet in his right hand, and Federer holding his in his left o_O
     
  19. bullfan

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    I agree I'm jealous, I'd love to be watching this one!!!
     
  20. Lawn Tennis

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    Don't you hold the racquet in the opposite hand between points and after a match?
     
  21. Big_Dangerous

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    So glad I'm off Tuesday.

    No class, and no work, it's fantastic.

    I have to work Wednesday, but not tomorrow. :)

    I may have to have like Fedal viewing party tomorrow or something lmao.
     
  22. MichaelNadal

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    Not really, I do sometimes, but usually it's always in my right hand. It's just interesting that the pics are so similar and they happen to be using their other hands.
     
  23. ruerooo

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    I think they both look great. I like Rafa's offset design -- it's Constellation Rafa!

    (Didn't he have an asteroid named after him, or something, back in 2009?)
     
  24. ZeroSkid

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    I disagree it looks like the same thing Fed wears all the time, nadals kit looks much nicer
     
  25. Magnus

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    Nadal in 3.

    Federer will win 1st set, will choke, Nadal will pound on his BH. The usual stuff.
     
  26. Magnus

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    No, Nadal wanted everyone to think he's tired and out of focus, who when Roger comes he can dominate his BH again. I do think Fed will have a much better shot at beating Djokovic than Nadal will.
     
  27. namelessone

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    Damn that Nadal and his head(and stomach) games.
     
  28. kaleidoskope

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    you forgot to tell him "GO AWAY!" :D
     
  29. Magnus

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    Don't get me wrong. This is brilliant of Nadal. Let me ask you this: How many times have you seen Nadal play badly and everyone was writing him off, yet when the big match came and everyone thought he was doomed, he suddenly played like a warrior and wiped the floor with his opponent? Nadal likes being the underdog, unlike Federer who likes being the favorite.
     
  30. TennisFan3

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    LOL..so much hype about this match? 7 threads and it's not even started.

    This is not even a GS final. Furthermore, none of the 2 players is ranked #1 or anywhere close to it..
     
  31. Big_Dangerous

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    I guess being ranked #2 isn't anywhere close to #1....

    And Federer all the way down there at #4 might as well not be in the top 100...
     
  32. Cesc Fabregas

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    It will be embarassing for Federer if he can't beat a sick and rusty Nadal on his worst surface, plus Federer is in brilliant form.
     
  33. Magnus

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    LOL at *******s already finding excuses. Now Nadal is sick.

    Seriously, was Nadal ever healthy in his life? Was he ever not injured?

    Federer and Nadal both played mediocre 1st matches. Both won their match in a 3rd set.

    Like always Fed will have the chance to win and will blow it.
     
  34. Ralph

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    Alternatively, it will be embarrassing for for Ralph if he can't beat an old and slower Federer on a higher bouncing than last year surface, plus Nadal is still in his prime*.

    *How many Major finals and MS1000s finals has he made this year?
     
  35. TennisLovaLova

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    Yeah.
    He's in such a good form that he even created Deaderror after ******** came in set 2 vs tsonga on monday

    I'm not gonna watch this match, can bear the pressure, it makes me sick.
    I'll watch it on youtube if Federer wins.
     
  36. bezs

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    Fly GoldenEagle fly!

    [​IMG]
     
  37. rommil

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    Lol I think the mouse on the right is about to take a Nadal MTO :)

    Maybe when they do the Australian shuffle
     
  38. nikdom

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    He seems to be alluding to the points difference from 1 to 2 and 3.
     
  39. DjokovicForTheWin

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    I would have thought the reverse. Nadal at his peak unable to beat geriatric Fed. Now that's embarrassing.
     
  40. tennis_pro

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    If Fed wins today (no matter in 2 or 3 sets), he advances from the 1st position and Tsonga/Nadal will decide which of the 2 advances directly to the semis.
    If Fed loses today (no matter in 2 or 3 sets), he will have to beat Fish convincingly (something like 6-3 6-3 or better) to advance from 1st or 2nd position.
     
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    You do realise that your trolling is utterly transparent, right? :)
     
  42. Sentinel

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    You are certainly doing well at the Zagor Literary Academy.

    :)
     
  43. iriraz

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    U are correct here but if Federer loses today and Nadal beats Tsonga then it doesn`t make a difference how Federer wins against Fish.It all gets complicated if 3 players would finish with 2-1 or 1-2 record.
     
  44. devila

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    fed must be old. he would be young if djoker and nadal had lost their semis and finals, though. awww
     
  45. KHSOLO

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    I just lol'ed at this
     
  46. Sentinel

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    Its a WIN-WIN for Nadal both ways today.

    If he wins, a tired Nadal, coming from a long rest, beats a prime, peak Fed on Nadals worst surface, and Fred's bestest.

    IF tired from marathon against Fish Nadal loses, he was back from a long rest, against peaking fresh Fred.
     
  47. SeeingDusk

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    Does anyone know if EuroSport will be showing this match?
     
  48. RF20Lennon

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    WIN WIN for fed today
    If loses lost to the guy he always loses to
    IF he wins HE IS THE MAN!!!
     
  49. CDestroyer

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    Fed has really played brilliantly lately. Indoors, fast conditions, low bounces? Nadal doesn't have a chance.

    Fed 6-4 6-3
     
  50. Mike Sams

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    Federer also had a 3 set match that same day. Why would one guy be more tired than the other? And furthermore, Nadal had a super-long rest and is raring to go while Federer has been playing constantly.
     

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