Federer No. 1 — in all sports

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  1. VolosozharGOAT

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    Phelps dominated the 200 freestyle for years, and has a slew of relay golds swimming the 100 freestyle leg. Fine though, like I said I guess since the 50 and 100 freestyle are the only events that important Alexander Popov, Gary Hall Jr. and Pieter Van den Hoogenband are the best swimmers ever though, and not Michael Phelps. Nobody on the planet has any idea other than the grand experts of TTW, so thanks for enlightening me on this. :lol:

    This is the only place on the planet with people stupid enough they don't think Phelps is the best swimmer ever (unlike Federer where there are tons of places and people who wouldn't think he is the best tennis player ever).

    Similarily a tennis forum is the only place or sports forum anywhere where Federer possibly being the best athlete ever would be even discussed (and even here, a forum full of Federer worshippers 95% of posters have shot down the idea as ridiculous, but the Fed fanboys keep resurrecting this thread every 2 months as something to jerk off over I guess). On an off topic area of say a hockey, football, track and field, swimming, or soccer forum, a discussion about best athlete ever wouldn't even have Federer's name brought up, and if it was by anyone it would be laughed at.
     
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  2. Martin J

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    That's what I was referring to, the idea is cool, but his "realization" is simply not funny and not sharp enough, not to mention that he uses too many words to express what he finds entertaining.

    Anyway, my first comment was a joke, how could I even know the reasons why Steve has him on ignore list :D
     
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    Ah well, different trolls for different folks I guess :)
     
  4. What a load of Trollocks.

    Copyrighted.
     
  5. Martin J

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    I totally agree with you. :D
     
  6. Phelps is the best, Popov is my favourite, and one of the more compelling sportsmen in history IMO.
     
  7. TMF

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    But you said MC and RG is parallel comparison to freestyle in swimming, which is dumb. MC isn't even a slam to begin with, and isn't even the most prestigious MS since it isn't a mandatory event anymore. RG was and will always be behind Wimbledon, and many listed below USO.

    You are so delusional to think Federer isn't one of the great(if not the greatest) since he owns most of the tennis records in the open-era, and is considered the greatest by the international panel of tennis experts. But what do I expect from you(NadalAgassi) after denigrating Federer for many years.
     
  8. TMF, he was making a crude analogy that very successfully demonstrates a basic point. You aren't seeing the forest from the trees .. probably because you lack the talent. I'm sure if he wanted to, he could fine tune his analogy to make the same point but to be more accurate and precise—but he didn't want to waste minutes of his time coming up with absolutely perfect equivalents, and wanted to demonstrate a basic point.

    I thought this was obvious.
     
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  9. Martin J

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    Hahahaha, are you referring to my comment? Ok, fair enough...
     
  10. Good point. I did read your message but wasn't thinking about it when I made my post, but surely it did influence the post subconsciously—no doubt about it.
     
  11. Martin J

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    I thought you were making fun of all of it. =)
     
  12. Russeljones

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    My favourite swimmer for sure. Iceman Popov. PVH was a different type of cool.
     
  13. King Fed WW

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    This 'soccer' forum thread got bumped specifically to include Federer. Nobody laughed, infact many agree he was greatest sportsman to ever live.

    On this sports forum (a successor to the BBC 606, which disapeared due to govt cuts.) Federer made the final of a GOAT bracket, he lost the final 51% to 49%. Nobody was laughing.

    Federer is in the conversation, that can't be denied. I wouldn't have him at #1 personally.

    ESPN had to go beyond sports, after Roger gave them no choice

    The Australian also thinks he is in the conversation

    Daily Telegraph

     
  14. AngieB

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    Canada.com probably gets its statistics from the same place you do. Wikipedia, Mr. Wiki.

    Roger Federer is a lot of things in the sport of tennis but he isn't anywhere near being the best ever in sports, when his place in tennis history continues to be debated because of his 10-23 record against his chief rival.

    I guess all the media hype of Eugenie Bouchard has in some way tainted Canada.com . They somehow have managed to turn the euphoria of Eugenie into a weightless trophy for Roger. Spectacular.

    #PTL #JC4Ever

    #AngieB
     
  15. Firstservingman

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    Wikipedia's tennis numbers are as correct as the ones from other sources, but nice try Mrs. Hashtags.
    I'm glad that you're only spamming the forum with this kind of stuff now though, instead of something so, shall I say, age-inappropriate.
    ;)

    #RF #18
     
  16. AngieB

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    I just don't understand what internet governing body asserted Canada.com as a major hub for sports news? Most wouldn't have even known about it had it not been mentioned in this thread.

    You consider Wikipedia as being accurate? I have a tropical island in the middle of Australia I would like to sell you.

    #PTL #JC4Ever

    #AngieB
     
  17. Firstservingman

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    I agree.

    The tennis stats certainly are.
     
  18. Sabratha

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    Serena has no "rivals". Sampras never had a rival of his caliber (or better) either.
     
  19. AngieB

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    What are you talking about? Neither of the individuals you've identified are being discussed in this thread.

    The Ides of March brings out the interesting ones for sure. What's next, discussion about Vince Van Patten in a Don Budge thread? You kids.

    #PTL #JC4Ever

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    Federer is not the best in sports is your opinion, and you are not part of the majority.

    My stats are coming from other sites not just Wiki.
     
  21. Sabratha

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    They are examples of players you usually reinforce. Players who were dealt a luckier hand than Federer.

    Vince Van Patten is also an actor. He left the profession prematurely to pursue this career choice, as such, he is not really brought up in any sort of conversation; as he is a lost relic of tennis. Something you neglect often on this forum.
     
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  23. ultradr

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    Federer is definitely the most popular tennis players I've seen in last 25 years or so.

    Tennis was narrow marketing tool. The top player had popularities mostly among serious tennis players.

    But Federer. He is popular among serious players as well as casual non-players.
    It has been quite surprising that most of non players do appreciate Federer's tennis.
     
  24. World Beater

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    reading comprehension issues???

    i have acknowledged that phelps is the best all around swimmer.

    however, it doesn't mean he is dominant everywhere...he is not world class in freestyle.

    a better analogy would be would be someone who was great in many running events but couldnt win the 100 m dash or isnt world class in 100 or 200m.

    its like bolt except the converse. bolt is so famous just for really those two events...

    but they are so prestigious that it almost doesnt matter that bolt doesnt run 400, 800, 1500, hurdles etc.
     
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    The Greatest

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  26. G A S

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    some say chess is a sport, haha
     
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    He is not a clear #1 in his own sport, let alone all sports.
     
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    Indeed Laver, Gonzalez challenge him in that regard - IMO they surpass him. He is only clearly #1 in the modern era.
     
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    Wasn't Graf much more dominant than Federer?

    Also, I agree with Phelps (as little as I like the guy).
     
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    How many WR does he still hold?
    How many tennis records will Federer hold in 25 years?
     
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    What's the definition of greatest? The most dominant relative to contemporary peers? or the one that we think would beat all if they were all playing against each other at their respective peaks?
     
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    How can anyone read this and deny Darts is a sports?

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...sting2&usg=AFQjCNHsymkMKXldD0LCDXpOSQSjTXbohg


    Sports fans who paid nearly £10 each to watch Sky's first pay-per-view darts match will not be refunded even though one of the players retired because of heat exhaustion.

    Sky Sports' much hyped "showdown" between rival world champions Phil Taylor and Andy Fordham came to a premature conclusion when Fordham suffered a suspected asthma attack.

    Hundreds of thousands of viewers are thought to have paid £9.95 each to watch last night's event.

    Taylor was 5-2 up and needed two more sets for victory when Fordham threw in the towel. Taylor said he was "absolutely devastated" the match had been cut short.

    But Sky Sports said today there was no chance of viewers being offered a refund. A spokesman said the Taylor-Fordham clash was the climax to four hours' of coverage.

    "The transmission went on for nearly four hours and in fact it overran by 90 minutes," he said. "We saw three great games of darts, especially the Taylor-Fordham match, in which every set apart from the first and the last went to [the maximum] five legs."

    It was the first time Sky had broadcast a pay-per-view sports event, which it usually restricts to more mainstream sports such as football and boxing. But the response to last night's match - a reported 1 million viewers signed up - suggests there will be more darts events to come.

    However, no official audience figures are yet available for last night's event. A Sky spokesman refused to comment on the possibility of the experiment being repeated in the future.


    Fordham, a publican from Kent who spent yesterday afternoon preparing for the match drinking lager at the bar, sweated profusely under the lights at the Circus Tavern in Purfleet, Essex. Darts commentator Sid Waddell said he was "sweating like a hippo in a power shower".

    Fordham, nicknamed "the Viking", took a break at the end of the seventh set, and spent 15 minutes wrapped in cool towels, but he was in too much discomfort to continue. Taylor was awarded the match by default.

    Promoter Barry Hearn, who persuaded Fordham to retire, said: "Sometimes the fighter has to be saved from himself and Andy Fordham has got to be saved from himself. He's not well. To go out again now would be a huge risk to his personal health and I am not prepared to take that risk.

    "I'm afraid we're in a situation where we have to say that,
    to avoid further punishment, Andy Fordham will not be coming out and Phil Taylor will be declared the winner. I think he's fine, but I don't think if he goes through any more that he would be, and that's a risk that we are not prepared to take. He's taken enough."


    Fordham is world champion of the British Darts Organisation while Taylor - nicknamed "the Power" - is champion of the Professional Darts Council, an alternative world darts body set up 11 years ago. Until last night the champions of the two organisations had never met.

    Taylor said: "I'm absolutely devastated, not just for myself but for the people who have paid all the money and also for the people sitting out there waiting. During that set Andy said, 'I can't get my breath, I can't breathe.' I said, 'Do you want to have a break?' and he said, 'I need to, yeah'."

    Last night's event also featured a match between veterans Eric Bristow and John Lowe, which Bristow, the "crafty cockney", won 6-1, and Roland "the Tripod" Scholden who beat Wayne "Hawaii 501" Mardle .











    Anything in particular worth reading/watching?
     
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    Julio Cesar Chávez is worth a mention. 27 successful World Title defences, champion in 3 weight divisions. 87 fight winning streak.
     

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