Federer now declining. Not in his prime anymore

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  1. jackson vile

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    Honestly I think there are two scenarios here

    #1Roger is more worried about grass ie keeping Nadal from winning Wim, as Nadal is preparing for grass right now also

    #2Roger is saving himself ie not working so hard so that he has more left for the FO
     
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    I don't believe this story because Federer is European and would use the metric system.
     
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  3. ckthegreek

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    Federer last week was the GOAT, this week he isn't and if he wins Wimby this year he may be.

    Let's hope the stupid debate ends right now and resumes in 2012.
     
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  4. ckthegreek

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    Can't even believe some people fall for this cr*p!
     
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  5. sureshs

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    Top players have the weighting done before painting so lead tape is not exposed and visible.

    Or maybe Federer is not a top player any more :)
     
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  6. z-money

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    you all are wrong. He is fine he has only lost 3 times this year. still better than any other pro. he is doing fine. so he probably wont win the french. big deal neither did pete(they both got close though). Wait and see what happens when he gets back to wimbledon! if he loses there then he has really fallen off. but if he puts on a show like at AO then all of you will be silenced. I am not a federer fan, but i know roger will still do fine because he doesnt want to lose his status as # 1 yet.
     
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  7. z-money

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    when roger gets on a surface he likes. he will smack anyone. u just gotta get under his skin. rumor is pete didnt like rafter. so everytime they played rafter would get smacked. he did win a few but they were really close. but out of the 48 sets they played Pete won 32 of them. and half of those were double breaks. If roger gets on grass or carpet, probably even hard court. he is gonna win unless someone plays the match of there life.
     
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  8. fastdunn

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    Ha ha ha. This joke does not quite work for tennis fans, IMHO.

    He changes his racquet every 4 games.
     
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  9. Mikael

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    Federer may be declining, but that's not saying much... considering his 2004-2006 years, it would've been extremely hard for him to keep repeating the same results over and over again. I'm actually surprised he had such an amazing 2006 year, I would've expected his results to start declining earlier than this.

    So, the decline seems to have begun, but that doesn't mean he'll stop winning slams. If we draw a parallel with Pete Sampras, Federer's career 2007 onwards could be similar to Pete's 1997 onwards, except Fed will probably dominate more than Pete did, considering Federer's prime (03-06) was much more impressive than Pete's (93-96). Still, after the 97 AO Pete did win 5 more slams (only one of those wasn't Wimbledon though, Pete was definitely NOT dominant outside of grass during those years). Similarly, I expect Federer to win at least 3 more Wimbledons, and probably a few AO/USO on the way.

    But if I had to guess I'd say there will be a few more "Volandris" in 2007. Federer's total loss tally could get up to 10.
     
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  10. jrachiever

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    Federer was bageled by Rafter, Byron Black and Vince Spadea all in 1999. I actually remembered the Rafter one off the top of my head, which I'm kind of proud of.
     
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  11. iplaybetter

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    He is just slumping, usually its a mini slump and he still wins, it is just a slump on his worst surface not a big deal.
     
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  12. Jules

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    Ha ha ha. This joke does not quite work for tennis fans, IMHO.

    He changes his racquet every 4 games.
     
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  13. tlm

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    The downward spiral has begun, cant wait to see fed drop more from here on out!!!
     
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  14. WestNott

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    Everybody needs to relax!!!! Federer is human and winning a gazillion straight matches over the years takes a toll on you. The pressure is enormous and he handles it greatly. This slump is to be expected at some point, the bubble has to burst- then you get back on the horse and dominate. Nobody can mantain forever, not even Sampras or Agassi!
     
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  15. Attila the tennis Bum

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    You guys are really funny.

    When nadal was losing everyone said he was washed up. Now its Fed turn and the pendulum has swung the other way. Guys there is a far more simple reason:

    This is the clay court season!!! Once grass and the hard court season comes around the pendulum will simply swing the other way.
     
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  16. Zaragoza

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    But he also lost in Indian Wells and Miami in the early rounds...to Cañas (not Nadal, Roddick or Djokovic). It´s not about clay, it´s about his game and his mentality. His game is erratic and he had a loser attitude since his first loss to Cañas. I would be surprised if he isn´t the no. 1 in the next 2-3 years but I think his dominance will not be the same. It will also depend on how much Nadal and Djokovic can progress on hardcourts.
     
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  17. Morrissey

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    You make it sound like he can just switch his game and confidence around at the flick of a switch. He´s been losing before the clay season you know. He´s lost early in Indian Wells and Miami to the same guy in Canas, the same guy Nadal mauled in straight sets in Barcelona. Hard court is Fed´s preffered surface and he lost twice in a row in two weeks to a guy who´s game works better on clay, not hard. This is not something you can just brush off. Fed looks like he´s running low on confidence, that always has a way of affecting one´s game. He´s lost 4 straight tournaments now and hasn´t won a title since Dubai back in February. His body language doesn´t look good at all, he looks tired and he showing signs of losing the ¨fire¨. Last year he was a different beast. This year, he´s looking beatable. I admit, it wasn´t going to last forever but it seems to be snowballing.
     
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  18. BigServer1

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    Well, look at Nadal. He didn't win anything from The FO 2006-IW 2007, looking (and being) very beatable along the way. That's quite a drought if you ask me, but look at Nadal now. Back on his favorite surface he's a beast, dominating anyone and everyone that stands in his way. If you are implying that the late winter/early spring slow hardcourts are Roger's preferred surface, you're dreaming. He finds himself at home on the lawn at Wimbledon and the Summer HC season. People can start to talk about his demise when Fed leaves Wimbledon or the US Open early and/or falls out of the #1 spot. Until then this is rehashed discussion from last year. "Nadal owns Federer on all surfaces. Federer to never win a major again. Nadal #1 at year end." Remember all that? So do I. 3 Slams later Roger can look back and laugh.
     
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  19. ShooterMcMarco

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    I thought that was hilarious. ;)
     
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  20. Baghdatis72

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    Not even close to a believable post but it could be a good joke though :lol:
     
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  21. War Safin!

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    I always thought his absolute peak was 2004-5, due to better opposition:
    Hewitt, Safin, Roddick all still pretty top-flight.....and Agassi and Henman still had a bit left in the tank.

    FF to 2007: Hewitt and Safin are shot, Roddick is patchy, Agassi is gone and Henman is shot.
    Who do we have left to challange him? Nadal.

    The guys such as Murray, Djokovich, Berdych, Gasquet are still 'green' and guys like Blake, Nalbandian, Davydenko and Ljubicic aren't anywhere near the same class as the opposition from 2004/05
     
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  22. federmann

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    haha!

    you know what? his confidence is the only reason for his dominance! the other players didn't have that confidence against him, because of his continuing good results. that's the reason he beat them. they all lost before they even stepped on court. tennis is a mental game.
    it's so funny how all of you thought that he's just that much better than the other guys that he only loses 3-4 matches a year. it's all in the head. the other pro's can play tennis too, don't you think?
     
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  23. a guy

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    I think he'll reach the French open final again. Other than that he'll be back to his usual self when the clay tournaments end.
     
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  24. Attila the tennis Bum

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    First of all Fed favorite surface is grass.

    Secondly, at this time last year Nadal was dominating Fed on hard and clay. Nadal had beaten Fed twice on hards and realy almost three times. On clay the record was 4-0.

    But once Wimbledon rolled around everything changed and the pendulum swung the other way.

    Cans beating Fed or Nadal beating Fed is the same thing. Canas has the same game as Nadal its just that Nadal does it better.

    Nothing has changed. Its simply the clay court season.
     
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  25. armand

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    Like I said, I didn't, so no worries!
     
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  26. jackson vile

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    Here we go with fans claiming that he was declining at an even earlier age. After defeating Murray, we can see that this is not true at all.
     
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  27. zagor

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    Bumping a 5 year old thread, getting desperate LOLville?

    However the OP is not a Fed fan, here's a post of his where he claims Sampras would beat Fed in straights peak for peak:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=965794&postcount=1

    Something no Fed fan would ever say so I'm afraid you "loose" again LOLville :).
     
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  28. Cup8489

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    wow, jackson_vile you are the most two faced person in history.

    oh, and since when did beating Murray in straight sets become an indication you're at your peak?

    Oh, that's right. it isn't.
     
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  29. zagor

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    That's nothing, take a look at how he took cheap shots at female members of Fed's family in this thread:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=5244766

    Now the post itself was deleted but you can still see what it contained because Rommil's and JBF#1's responses to it are still there (post #22 and #28 ).
     
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  30. Hitman

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    I really don't understand his obsession with Federer? I actually kind of feel sorry for him. Numerous times he's been pwned by you and others on these boards, so many contradictions in his posts. I recall him saying to me that he is on some kind of crusade to clear the boards of ****s, or something along those lines a little after I actually had a discussion with him when I first joined in 2010.

    He seems ok, when he wants to be. But his obsession with Federer can't be too healthy on his pysche.
     
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  31. Cup8489

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    LOLville is Banned.
     
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  32. piece

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    Anyone else think this^ was pretty cool?
     
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  33. RogerRacket111

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    The sun will rise in the east and set in the west. What other great insights do u have? Not in his prime and still winning so many matches. The other guys must suck.
     
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    Zagor must be lost ! *cry*.

    (sends hug to Zagor).
     
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    Fail .
     
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