Federer says he is ready to win Madrid

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  1. gzhpcu

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    Since I had posted this in the Federer training thread, thought to put it in a separate thread, because it might be missed...


    In an interview with the Swiss newspaper "Tagesanzeiger", Federer said he is very close to a turnaround...

    What he said was roughly that he is now ready to win a sand court tournament. In Monte Carlo, he said, he just wanted to see how his game was. In Rome, he was looking a bit more ahead. Now, he says, he feels he has the game to win and his goal is to win the title in Madrid. Said that since Madrid higher up is, the balls will be faster and bounce higher,so that will help his serve and he can play aggressively.

    He has been training his serve a lot, he said, along with his footwork and working on his defensive game. Said, he feels it is all coming together and he feels better each day. Says he had a tough start of the season but feels that he is now very close to turning things around.

    source: http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/sport/te...story/13152108
     
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  2. iamgoat

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    Mark my words, Federer will win Madrid.
     
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  3. icedevil0289

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    well he's definitely not winning now.
     
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    federer should not say things like this, it would only bring more pressure on him to perform. it's fine if he can pull it off but if he doesn't, it's going to be tough to take.
     
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  5. Blinkism

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    [DELUSION]Oh wow, Federer's never said he's going to win a tournament before it even started ever before!!

    He's great at predicting! Remember when he said he thought 2008 was his year to win the French Open?

    He totally didn't get a breadstick and a bagel in the final from Nadal!!! [/DELUSION]
     
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  6. veroniquem

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    Federer loves putting maximum pressure on his shoulders and bragging about doing things he has no idea if he can do. I am really making superhuman efforts to refrain from calling him a complete idiot.
     
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    With the way the Madrid clay courts are fast and high-bouncing I don't see it happening.
     
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    oh no, fed said his goal was to win a tournament, what an utter and complete idiot. I guess he shouldn't have goals anymore.
     
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    The key word is high-bouncing though I don't know if it is that high-bouncing. I think Rome was higher and slower. But we'll see how Nadal does. That usually is a good barometer on how high bouncing a surface is. ;)
     
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  10. gzhpcu

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    Yet another article on Federer and Madrid...
    http://www.blick.ch/sport/tennis/rogers-optimismus-118891

    "My goal is to win the tournament. The objective is set high, but certainly possible if I play well". he said.

    In contrast, Rafa Nadal said in Madrid, "I don't know whether or not I will win the first round. I am not even thinking about quarter or semifinals".

    Murray in Madrid: "I am not so good on sand. Consequently I can only think about the first round. Anything else does not make sense".
     
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  11. LanceStern

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    God forbid Federer looks ahead and sets a goal to win a tournament.

    I guess Nadal was an idiot when at the AO2009 he was blogging about "I'm not leaving without the trophy" before the finals?
     
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    He's really setting himself up for intense criticism if he doesn't win it now. What is the benefit of saying that kind of stuff? He will have all the time to say it if he qualifies for the final. Instead of that he's placing the bar really high straight away. His goal shoud be to play a good first round.
     
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  13. veroniquem

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    I doubt Nadal ever said that. It is not his style at all. Maybe you're referring to a commercial that was shown on TV and pretended to be his blog. That was just a promo and had nothing to do with Nadal's actual blog. Nadal doesn't say such things and even if he did, before the final would be better timing than before the tournament starts when you should focus on getting past your first rounds.
     
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    This is not smart from Federer. He is getting desperate.

    He indeed have a cakewalk draw yet again, so he might make it to the final indeed, but still saying something like this after he didn't win a Masters for almost two years is just, well, not smart.
     
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  15. BorisBeckerFan

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    It's good to be confident but clearly Fed isn't in a good place mentally right now. The people around him who care for him should get together and plan an intervention to salvage what's left of his tennis playing days. Just kidding.
     
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  16. Lotto

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    Well to be honest he should be making the final. He has an "easy" enough half like. He can still beat any player in the world on any surface except for 3 on hard, 2 on clay and possibly 1 on grass.

    And he has Murray in his half. No big deal on clay for him to be honest. Although, the Rome semi-final against Djokovic should have been no big deal. Federer was controlling the match until the rain delay, came out and held an easy service game and from there like, imploded or something....he started making errors out of nowhere after being in complete control. Very strange to be honest. It proves though he is still be the second best claycourter in the world though when he's there mentally. At the moment he's not at his best on any surface so its even hard to call him World No.2.....even though he is more than capable of taking Murray and DJoker out on any surface he's not at the moment. So, we'll see.

    But I don't disagree with him saying he can win Madrid. He's got a MASSIVE chance to get to the final and then he's only one match away so.....and unless it's against a certain Rafael Nadal then he definitely has a huge shot at winning it.
     
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    While I can get maybe a small amount of where people are coming from, it's so frustrating to see so much hate.

    here is a former world #1, in a slight slump, pumping himself up and merely saying he feels good about his game right now. Leave it to internet forumers for no reason whatsoever to come around and try and berate and bring down the positive attitude and goals he has for himself.

    It's like going to a football game, the coach feels excited and says he has hopes for his team to take it all the way to the superbowl, and a bunch of armchair coaches are sitting around saying the team sucks, the coach is delusional etc.

    Leave the man alone and let him be happy with his game and how he feels. If he was being all sad, unsure and pessismistic then you'd have something to doom and gloom him about then too.

    Karlovic, Davydenko, Giles Simon (a thorn in his side), Igor Andreev and Murray are not an "easy draw". come on.
     
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  18. Bud

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    He's playing Soderling later on This evening, too :wink:
     
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  19. Chelsea_Kiwi

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    Fed has an easy draw come on. On clay he faces Karlovic who is average, Simon the hard-court specialist, who is out of form, Andreev who is out of the tournament and Murray the clay god lol. Davydenko is the only challenge but 8-0 H2H is pretty compelling.
     
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  20. <3tennis!!!

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    i dont mind if fed doesnt win......i just love his tennis and always will. i love federer!:)
     
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    Sand? Um, are they playing beach volleyball in Madrid? :)
     
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  22. gzhpcu

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    No, beach tennis....:)

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    So presumably that's not insulting Federer right? Hm... looks like you're a hypocrite. I seem to remember we had a recent argument in another thread. You were commenting that OP shouldn't criticise Nadal... and guess what? You're now going doing the same thing to Federer. ******* hypocrite much?

    Realistically, I don't think Fed is going to win Madrid. But I always hope for the best for him.
     
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    I don't understand. She said she's trying hard not to call him an idiot. Let's give her some credit. I know how she feels. With every post I type, I say to myself, Antonio, you cannot call Fed a chubby-chasing crybaby. Do not call Fed a chubby-chasing crybaby! I'm not sure how, but somehow, I resist the temptation. I have to say I'm proud of myself.
     
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    12-0.......
     
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  26. sh@de

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    No, saying she'll 'refrain from calling him a complete idiot' is like a glaringly obvious statement of calling him a complete idiot. You might as well remove the 'refrain from', and the meaning would be the exact same. Stop trying to use underhand ways to insult Federer, when you complain all the time about people insulting Nadal (not you antonio, I mean you, veroniquem).
     
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    Well its always nice to go into a tournament and set a goal for yourself and something you want out of it. Though he should also set up for the fall if he doesn't win the tournament wouldn't that be just sad :(
     
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    Fed has all his slaves on his side of the draw.So it shouldn't be a problem for him to reach the finals.Still,he should let his racquet talks,instead of himeself.
     
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    Since when is slavery legal again? BTW, Simon is NOT in Federer's side of the draw. I don't know why people keep on bringing him up. He's in Djokovic's quarter.

    Anyways, again, I'm glad Roger's feeling confident, that's all. He likes to go into a tourny mentally challenging himself to win it. He has done this all of his years. When he was at the top and when he's second best. You don't just change your outlook just because of a points system. If he loses, he'll deal with it, but why should he go into a tournament without feeling like he can conquer the field?
     
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  30. vtmike

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    How can the court be fast & high bouncing?...They can either be fast or high bouncing...
     
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    Wow you really are unbelievable!! I don't know if I should laugh at your posts or take them seriously anymore...He says such "stuff" because he is asked to time and gain to comment on his form, goals, coaches, etc. etc. etc...And as far as I know he is very good with journalists and fans, & always makes a point to give them some time...

    All he said is that he is feels his game has improved after the practice hours he put in and his goal is to win the Madrid Masters...How can you possibly find anything wrong with that?? :shock: You think it beyond comprehension for a former num 1 to have a goal to win the Madrid Masters? Do you think Djokovic & Murray don't have similar goals?

    Those two bold portions are pretty much self explanatory...I am not going to degrade myself to try and explain my point because it will be clear to any rational poster!
     
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  32. gzhpcu

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    Maybe because of the high altitude?
     
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    ^^^ I don't think altitude has anything to with it...
     
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    That's how Roger explained the high bounce:

     
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    ^^^ Oh! I wonder what the relation between altitude & high bounce is? Is there less drag (air friction) on the ball due to thinner air? That might explain the increase in speed...and since the court friction is the same, the bounce still remains high...Thats the only explanation I can come up with...any other reasons?
     
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    Roger, will you please stop talking and atually start winning. Maybe take the time you spend on interviews and spend it on even more practicing, or better yet spend it on a shrink. Take Safin with you, you both need help.
     
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    Well, I'm still refraining but the things he says, boy...
     
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    Yes, fast and high-bouncing. That's been my observation.
     
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    He didn't say that his goal is to win Madrid, he said he's "ready" to win Madrid. If you don't see it's a little foolish to announce you're gonna win a tournament before it starts, I don't think I can explain it to you, it's pretty much self explanatory, especially for someone who hasn't won a master shield since... yeah right, a long time ago :rolleyes: (and someone who hasn't beaten the other top 3 in a best of 3 set match for... wow really long too...)
     
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    That should be good for Rafa, shouldn't it?
     
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    I would think so. It may also be bad since it allows player's to hit through the court... like a hard court.

    He may have trouble with some of the same players he has trouble with historically on hard courts (i.e. the aggressive players who take the ball early and hit flat).
     
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    I think Rafa would prefer the courts a little slower than what they are here. But the high bounce should help him. He doesn't like them very slow (as far as I can tell), but a little bit of drag is good as it allows better point construction.

    Either way, he's Rafa!

    What I like about what Roger said is that it should help his serve. If his serve is on, that's half the match right there IMO.
     
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    You forgot to add this post in your post with mutiple quotes...

     
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    There's a huge difference between feeling good about your game and saying you're gonna win a tournament: one is healthy self confidence, the other one is overconfidence and burning bridges. Federer hasn't made a master final for a year (won one for almost 2 years), he also hasn't beaten Nadal, Fed or Djoko for months. He's had a problem recently of choking matches after leading comfortably in them. He doesn't need the extra pressure that those comments put on him. Then if he loses, people are gonna ask "why can't the press leave him alone?", well he's looking for it, no?
    (Simon is not in his quarter and both him and Karlovic are helpless on clay, Andreev has withdrawn)
     
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    I don't see why people always get so all over players for saying their goal is to win a tournament, to be number, to win a slam etc. If asked "do you think you can win "insert tourny" or "do you think you can beat "insert player", I'd much rather hear a player say yes than to say no, what kind of message does it send if you announce you don't think you can win :/

    Fed just seems to feel his preparation has gone well and that he's in with a good chance (which having seen the draw he is, particularly to reach the final).

    Sure I'll still back Rafa, but I wouldn't rule Fed out of having a shot.
     
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    Way to twist things around :roll: Here is the exact quote fromt he OP...You are completely 200% biased! I really am going to start ignoring you because apparently anything that comes out of Federer's mouth is arrogant to you! I have had it with you...be happy hating on Federer and making him look like an evil, sadistic, arrogant as*hole!

     
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    I'm sure the way the clay is packed and the underlayer make a difference as well, but the lower air resistance must help a little. I had also heard there is such a thing as high altitude tennis balls, but I've no idea where I heard that...
     
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    Isn't high bounce bad for flat hitters?
     
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  49. sh@de

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    So it's ridiculous to have a goal of winning now is it? Why's Fed still playing then? If he's not ready to win, why should he even play? He might as well drop out now... jeez, you *******s are seriously pathetic.
     
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    Yes he should keep his mouth shut and shows HE HAS THE GAME TO WIN with his racquet. Stop talking big and act big for a change.
     
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