Federer to Nadal: your move, muscle boy

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Will Nadal be able to dominate on clay?

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  1. Yes, Rafa owns clay, and he will own everyone on it, Fed included.

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  2. No, his body is not going to sustain the grind, he'll fold and Fed will win FO.

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  1. arosen

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    So, Fed won AO, and two masters tourneys so far this year, just in time for the clay court season to start. Nadal has some catching up to do, but is he up to it? His game is all about grinding his opponents to fine dust, and it seems he wasn't too heartbroken about leaving Miami early. Perhaps, his plan was to do OK on hard (got Fed in Dubai), and blitz the clay, but will he be able to deliver?
     
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  2. diegaa

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    I dont tbelieve rafa nor fed will win FO... Rafa wont be as dominant in clay as last season.
    Just wait and see.
     
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  3. Andres

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    Rafa will win a couple of clay MS, but not the FO.
    The FO, IMO, will go to either Nalbandian or Acasuso. Ferrer is a good choice for it, too :)
     
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  4. Grimjack

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    Nadal has now been healthy for one French Open in a row. I don't see how he can keep up this unprecedented streak.
     
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  5. lagranwilly

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    IMO,Nalbandian hasn't a chance on clay, and Acasuso??????Fed or Nadal would kill him at the FO.he hasn't showed anything too important to put him as a big posibility for the title.
    Anyway,good choices.....
    However,I'm expecting Coria's comeback,hopefully.
     
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  6. MTChong

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    Now, I think that Rafa will be dominant on clay; but because of the setbacks that he has sustained this season, I don't think he will be taking the French.
     
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  7. Saito

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    Dunno about Nadal's condition come time for FO, but even though I don't know about Fed winning FO, I voted that one (would be nice to see it). But probably another strong dirtballer will take FO.
     
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  8. Andres

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    Except that winning Viña del Mar, on singles and doubles, losing 6 games in two DC ties, and having a huge confidence boost? Naah, he hasn't done anything important...
     
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  9. spinbalz

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    There is absolutely nothing in the results you listed that we can call important.
     
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  10. Virtuous

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    but..but..he beat roddick on clay!:p
     
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  11. theJuniorACE

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    i would liek to see nalbandian win, it would be good for him
    BUt i would love to see Coria win it,
    just because he really deserves it,

    i doubt fed will win it
    and as for nadal, he has a 50% chance of winning it

    My PREDICTION:
    Nicolas Lapentti will win,
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    had to say it for a countryman,
    ever since andres gomez won it from agassi in 90,
    ive been waiting for another ecuadorian upset,

    all jokes around, my moneys on coria, nalbandian, nadal, or fed
    theyve got the best chances

    i wanna see if igor andreev will be a competeter b/c last year he was one of the few to beat nadal on clay and not only beat nadal, but in straight sets
    he also beat puerta in 4 sets last year
     
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  12. d_frank

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    I dont think his body will quit on him, i just think federer is the better player :)
     
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  13. diegaa

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    I agree. Andres, Acasuso may have had some good results lately but, BUT, many players had it. I dont think his menatlly ready tohas his breakthrough (I know you r a queen´s fan... :p).
     
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  14. Andres

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    He's playing incredibly confidently, and pretty contundent on clay. That's what I think it's the most important.

    He already made 4th round last year. I expect him to go at least, to the same spot, being seeded higher this year :)
     
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  15. Andres

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    Jajajaja. Por alguna casualidad pasó por mi web? :mrgreen:
     
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  16. superman1

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    I think Nadal will do just as well on clay as last year (remember, he lost a couple claycourt matches last year before his streak started and his gained confidence).

    And if Nadal doesn't win the French Open, Federer will. I cannot fathom the idea of Federer losing to anyone else at Roland Garros, the career maker or breaker. He is going to be so locked in, he'll just pummel the competition and get to the final. The French Open is his most important Slam this year, even more important than Wimbledon.
     
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  17. diegaa

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    Bueno, en algun momento lo dijiste en un post. Pero si, entre en tu web, te iba a mandar un mail hace unos dias de no me acuerdo que cosa.

    edit: eeeeh 200 posts!
     
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  18. doriancito

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    fedeere simply cant against nadal, federer plays a game where he has a great curt coverage and he dominates the court meaning he can put the ball where ever he wants, but andal is muscle boy and he is damn fast he runs hits the ball back and goes for the enxt, so on till fed misses
     
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  19. Andres

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    Die, agregame al msn, andresguazzelli@hotmail.com. Ahi charlemos.
    Felicitaciones por los 200 posts :) Ya estas casi tan vicioso como yo :p
     
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  20. diegaa

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    LKa verdad que es medio vicio. Cambie de tusecreto.com.ar a tennis warehouse. Je.
     
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  21. quest01

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    I believe Federer will win the French Open. Hes competing in more clay court tournaments this year then ever before. He will be ready for the french.
     
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  22. Andres

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    jajajaja!! tusecreto.com.ar !!! Otro vicio!!!
    Suerte que de a poco me voy moderando en ése :mrgreen:
     
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  23. legolas

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    i hope so, i want gaudio to win
     
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  24. istobita

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    I love David with all my heart. As much as I adore his game (and him), I don't feel Nalby is grand slam material. Of course I would love to be wrong, but I get the feeling that just like one can't expect Safin to be consistant, one can't expect Nalby to win slam after slam. Seems he tends to be repeatedly defeated by himself somehow...

    With that said, prove me wrong Nalby!!!!
     
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  25. jackson vile

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    I think the hard courts will have made him even better for clay, the only thing that can stop him is injuries.

    Fed is competing in these tournaments just for that reason, to stay ahead of nadal.

    Fed is tired and it shows, he is off, not staying with the point, not as hungry as he was.

    I hope he plans on skipping the clay all together as I predict that he will have very early upsets.

    But then again the ATP is very good about making sure their meal tickets make it to the finals:rolleyes:
     
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  26. arosen

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    Jackson, Fed already announced he will play ALL of clay TMS tourneys. He wants to win the French more than anything, as he said " I know what it means for my career".
     
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    We all know that he want that major, that is no secret at all, I am not saying what he is doing rather what I jokingly/mockingly think he should do with impliance that Nadal will kill everyone, not to mention the rest the the clay courters.

    And that fed look out of his game and tired might be better off not bothering ha ha ha ah

    That is a joke ;)
     
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  28. arosen

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    Heck, Fed does have a lot to prove on clay. So does Nadal. Should be interesting. Is Fed going to be tired? Nah, he is fit and he is going to have a nice break before hitting clay, where his worst nightmare is waiting for him - Rafa Nadal. On clay. Ouch.
     
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  29. croatian sensation

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    I agree completley with the 1st part..that Rafa will be good on clay but may not win the French (although he is the safest bet). But I don't believe Fed can win it either.
    But Acasuso? C'mon it's like me saying Ancic will win Wimby. ;)

    I'm dreaming about Coria's comeback... :cool:
     
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  30. Andres

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    You'll see, CroSen. This year, Acasuso will be a real threat on claycourts. ;)
    He's playing great, and very confidently, and with his huge talent, but inconsistent and irregular game, confidence is the real deal for him.

    This will be a great year :D
     
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  31. laurie

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    Federer has taken the sort of momentum into a clay season that I haven't seen for years.

    This makes for one great clay season coming up and I feel Federer will actually win the French Open this year.
     
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  32. croatian sensation

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    Well look what has inconsistent game done to Nalbandian...he was a regular Top 10 2002-2005 and in that period he hasn't won a title... since Basel 2002 to Munich 2005. And we're talking about the guy who can beat Federer!!!

    I'm sorry but with inconsistent/irregular game and a confidence issue you can't win FO. And oh yeah..Fed and Nadal are also a bit of an obstacle in the way to the title ;)
     
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  33. Andres

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    What about Gaudio? Totally inconsistent and irregular game, who had fun for the first time in the court, played like he knows how to play, and won FO.

    Acasuso hasn't played irregular nor inconsistent this year. Specially on clay. He has steamrolled every guy he beat, and lost to an inspired Calleri in 3 tought sets, in Buenos Aires, and retired against Almagro in Acapulco.

    Vina del Mar, Chile
    International Series, 30-Jan-06, O, Clay , Draw: 32

    R32 Navarro Pastor, Ivan : 6-3 6-2
    R16 Marcaccio, Gustavo: 6-1 6-1
    Q Friedl, Leos: 3-6 6-1 7-5
    S Ramirez Hidalgo, Ruben : 6-2 6-4
    W Massu, Nicolas: 6-4 6-3

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    ARG v. SWE WG 1st RD, Buenos Aires
    DC, 10-Feb-06, O, Clay , Draw: 4

    RR Johansson, Thomas: 6-1 6-1 6-3
    RR Bjorkman, Jonas: 6-0 6-1

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    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    International Series, 13-Feb-06, O, Clay , Draw: 32

    R32 Montanes, Albert: 6-1 6-3
    R16 Vassallo Arguello, Martin: 6-3 6-1
    Q Calleri, Agustin: 3-6 6-3 4-6

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    Acapulco, Mexico
    International Series Gold, 27-Feb-06, O, Clay , Draw: 32

    R32 Gonzalez, Santiago: 6-2 6-1
    R16 Almagro, Nicolas: 3-6
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    Total record on clay: 10-2

    Games won - Games lost: 146 - 70

    Viña del Mar: 64 - 32
    Davis Cup: 30 - 6
    Buenos Aires: 37 - 23
    Acapulco: 15 - 9

    Sets won - Sets lost: 22 - 4

    Viña del Mar: 10 - 1
    Davis Cup: 5 - 0
    Buenos Aires: 5 - 2
    Acapulco: 2- 1

    It's true, he hasn't played against good claycourters, but he has the game, and he's playing confidently. He's my underdog for this year's clay events :)
     
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