Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by Rhino, Mar 4, 2006.
hoooooooly **** man.
rafa is a kid with huuuuuuge balls!!!!!!!
**** he's 2 points away...
DAMN, fed c'mon, it's enough to joking.
FED BH error,
NAD overhead smash winner,
Terrific point at the net exchange but FED's error (off net cord),
federer loses... god damnit
Incredible match!! I don't know what was more impressive: Federer's shot-making or Nadal's willpower!!
Nadal's victory made even better due to the fact he hasn't played much tennis since oct last year....
not a good result for Fed, he was the guy with more playing time this year
which also means Fed isn't any more the iron man in the finals ...
great result for Nadal. not sure how he played, but ...
urrrrgh, i cant hold on longer.
damn, that sucks for federer
i hate life, federer u failed me
At the end, the game is played no differently than any other game at any other level, whoever can hit the ball over the net and between the lines wins.
But a GREAT result for tennis fans: it means we DO have a valid rivalry, afterall. If I can get to watch these two in finals for the next few years, Ill be a happy man!!!! :mrgreen:
....that's just my opinion. ****
Yeah, that's painful.
But at least Federer has a true rival.
Nadal now leads the head-to-head 3-1!!
I'm a bit stunned
Fed: -1 Double faults
Fed: +8 aces
Fed: +12% Points won on 1st serve
Fed: +3% Points won on 2nd serve
Fed: +7% Receiving points won
Fed: +7 Total points won
But not enough so it seems...
LOL, the atp has succeeded
I hope people will now see what I see in the great champion that is Nadal.
Told you he's not just a claycourter.
Great great great match.
That's all I can say
I hate the damn spanish monkeyface
Well 11 titles last year including a slam, plus a winning record against Fed. I think people noticed
This will keep things interesting. Federer will have something to work on in the future - not just the drop shot he was planning for the French. If Rafa can play this well on hard courts, Fed will have big trouble on the clay with him.
This seems to have not been like Miami last year - when Fed said it took him two sets to read Nadal's lefty topspin. He was 6-2 in the first set this time around. I think you can attribute the match probably not so much to difference in skill (they are no. 1 and no. 2 after all) but the willpower edge that Rafa has.
This is from someone who didn't see the match remember.
I think it's amazing how Roger losing a match is almost an event. Nadal has his number and was pretty close to being 4-0 against Roger. At least Rafael should stay ranked #2 so he won't be on Roger's side of the draw at the French. That would be one great finals matchup!
Shame for Fed. i wish I could have heard what they said at the ceremony. But Eurosport switched off...
Given that he won Montreal, Madrid and nearly won Miami, I don't think many would call him just a claycourter. At this point he's everything but a grasscourter, but I'm sure he'll do better on grass in the future too.
As much as this hurts, I think it's not a bad thing for Fed. After all, this is not a slam or even a Super 9, so it's not as damaging as it could be. Fed's been winning everything but he hasn't been playing as well as he used to in 2004 and most of 2005. He's been getting a little sloppy and needed a wake-up call.
Alot of the people on this boad doubt Nadal's abilities, and still do not think he is good on hardcourts, or whatever. Hopefully this will FINALLY silence them.
He's obviously good on hardcourts, but he needs a result at the US Open (3rd round to Blake??? Ouch) and the Aus Open, I guess that's what people will really remember. He's only 19, he'll probably manage it.
berkkk ugly tennis
I don't doubt his ability, but I worry about his longevity. He is the Italian Stalion of tennis (that's a Rocky reference--I realize he's not Italian) and I wonder how long he can last playing with that emotional and physical intensity. I hope a long time because the sport needs Nadal.
He wouldn't be Rafa if he didn't play with that emotion and intensity. That's what makes him fun to watch, IMO. And maybe you are right -- he won't have a career as long as Agassi's. But so what? I'd rather have a few years of watching Rafa liven up the ATP than spend a decade watching a Henman-like player.
I agree, ref. Chang, Brugera, Ferraro, Moya etc. The grinder style is difficult to maintain physically and mentally for the long-haul. Foe example, Chang won a ton of titles but when his wheels went away so did his ability to compete at the top. Also check Borg. Although he won a ton of GS titles he burnt out at 26. My comment is not a prediction nor am I saying any of these players are not sucessful. They just seemed to flame out at some point or at least had a hard time at some time in their career fending off the competition or burn out.
Good luck Rafa.
Zing! Poor Timmy! We don't like him, do we?
Henman's not bad. I woulda picked one of the baseline drones as an example, though.
Anyway "Down goes Frazier! Er, Federer!"
anyway let's hope the light side of tennis will triumph over the dark side of tennis...... come on roger !!! [/QUOTE]
*dramatazation of French Open final, match point federer*
Nadal gets a sitter on match point Federer and has a choice, hit it to his forehand or backhand, Federer finds out that he's going forehand,
Federer- "No Rafa I have the higher score, don't do it!"
Nadal- "Aiieeeieiei!!" *hits it to Federer forehand and gets a winner blasted by him*
Federer- *On his back crying* "No Rafa, you were the chosen one!!"
Anyone still se Federer winning the French? It's a tossup it seems between him, Nadal, and one of the random clay courters who come around to get their 15 minutes, we'll have to see both of their forms during clay court season I guess.
Oh, Tim's okay, but I don't find his game particularly exciting to watch. I only watch his matches if he's playing someone I do want to watch. ;-)
Possibly, IMO jury is still out for him. However, I understand your observation. What's Hewitt's weapon? Answer, wheels, mental toughness and consistancy. Sound familier? If any one of those goes off..........................down goes the grinder! down goes the ginder!
It's clear that at this point federer only wins when he plays his best tennis. he often does play his best tennis and manages to pull himself up more often than others. But his second best is just not good enough for players eager to defeat him. We have always seen these weaknesses, even at the AO where he was struggling several times. This was just the one time when he didn't make it.
No need to dramatize though. he was bound to lose at some point. he is still an eminent player that towers above the rest of the pack.
Yeah, remember in the days when Hewitt actually won tournaments (Ok, he's got a good chance of ending the drought in Las Vegas this weekend), he used to give it all that intensity, bending over pumping fists towards the ground, almost a possessed look in his eyes, running down every ball.....and then there wasn't even a single trademark "come on" during his defeat against Chela at the AO.
When you know a player believes in himself that much, his opponents believe it too, but when they lose that 'power', they appear a lot more beatable and start losing matches.
can't wait to see again his best tennis......
real mature loser
So was this match good enough to spend a few $$ buying a copy of it?
Hewitt is going to beat federer this year.Im thinking wimby.If not us open.
Roger was very gracious and complimantary to Rafael. He even said that he was "lucky" to get that one win off of him. He recognizes that Rafael is a true competitor on the court and said he hopes to play him more often in the future. You could tell that Roger respects Rafael and his game.
Rafael has learned a little English too, but he was clearly uncomfortable with the language. You could tell that he really didn't understand some of the comments and questions. He did well, however.
It was interesting that during the sponsor speaches, etc., you could see Roger and Rafael in the background behind the "stage" talking with each other in a very comfortable manner while they were lounging on the benches waiting to be called.
Roger seemed to be in good spirits after the match. Don't think this really hurt him mentally much at all. He just recognizes that Rafael is someone he really need to be aware of and will have to play his best to be able to beat.
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The first set was a blowout. A true clinic on how to play tennis. Rafa didn't stand a chance. In the second, and third set, Roger's unforced and forced error count went way, way up. That was the difference in the match. Rafa started hitting with a lot more topspin and the ball kicked way up which made it difficult for Roger. Roger was definitly the better server and when Rafa served, Roger was in the rally almost every time. For Rafael to remain on top, he will have to work on his serve a little bit.
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Edited to add:
Someone asked about the court. It was a medium- to slow-speed hard court. Roger's loss beings the open era record for hard court consecutive wins to an end.
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