Federer vs Murray - 2013 AO semi-finals

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Federer vs Murray

  1. Federer in 3

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  2. Federer in 4

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  3. Federer in 5

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  4. Murray in 3

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  5. Murray in 4

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  6. Murray in 5

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  1. Fedex

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    Wonder what forced him to make those dumb errors?
    You're better talking to Chardy. He disagrees with you.
    You know better of course.
     
  2. Geology_Rocks!

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    My brain says MAndy but my heart says Sexy.

    Voted Sexy in 4.
     
  3. FlashFlare11

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    To be completely honest, I feel like Roger has a very good chance of winning, more than a lot give him credit for. The backhand was solid against Tsonga and Federer will get way more rhythm playing against Andy than against Jo.

    I don't think Murray played that well against Chardy. He missed some routine shots and was uncharacteristically troubled by Chardy's slice.

    I'm going to say Murray in four but it could easily be Federer in four also.
     
  4. Warmaster

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    It's tough to call, Murray is the favourite, but maybe Federer can surprise him with a good start. If he comes out goating left and right before Murray adjusts to the circumstances he has a chance. If ******** shows up in the first set it's over.

    Predicting Murray in 4, but hoping for Goderer to make an appearance!
     
  5. TheF1Bob

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    Chardy was never gonna come out and say, "I played sh^t." He was just being professional.

    That's all. 8)
     
  6. underground

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    Fed's BH has been exceptionally throughout the AO, and Murray loves hitting Fed's BH. So yeah if Fed's BH holds up pretty well against him I'll favour his chances, plus Murray hasn't played a night match yet.

    Fed in 4. He'll snag the 1st with no time, lose the 2nd and win a tight 3rd, then roll of a 4th.
     
  7. sbengte

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    Murray in 4.

    I see Murray playing more freely because

    - He already has a slam
    - This is a semi , not a final
    - He has now beaten Fed in a best of 5
    - This surface favors Murray over Fed
    - Murray is fresh (and younger too) compared to Fed who played a 5 setter
     
  8. Day Tripper

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    Can someone please remind me how many times Andy Murray has beaten Roger Federer in a Grand Slam?

    Murray would still have the monkey on his back if they hadn't played the US Open in a mini tornado.

    If Roger can recover physically i expect him to put Murray away in 4.
     
  9. mistik

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    Murray still has to prove himself.He has one fluke major win after all.Fed in straight sets.
     
  10. sbengte

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    Doesn't mean much. There's always a first time. When Berdych,Delpo,Soderling and Tsonga can beat Fed at slams, there is no reason why Murray can't.
     
  11. Gonzo_style

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    I have no idea who will win, everything is possible. I will cheer for Murray, but I think Federer in 5
     
  12. kalyan4fedever

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    the pusher of two will win lets see who
     
  13. RF20Lennon

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    LOL agreed! Chardy was playing pathetic.
     
  14. RF20Lennon

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    Ofcourse he can and pick him over fed in this one but all those guys you mentioned absolutely CRUSH the ball and thats what gives fed problems. Murray cant do that.
     
  15. heftylefty

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    My heart says Fed, because he's Fed
    My brain says Murray, because he's peaking.

    Murray in 4.
     
  16. tudwell

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    Murray's never beaten Federer in a slam, but if he's going to do it, now's a good shot. Federer wasn't good in his last match from what I hear (though I've yet to watch it), but he looked very sharp in the first four rounds. If he plays better than in the quarterfinal, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him come through. I think this being a semifinal and not a final helps Murray, though, and at this point he probably wouldn't be flat or overwhelmed in the final anyway. I think Murray will come out looking to dictate like he did at the Olympics. If Federer plays well and is up to the challenge, he could edge Murray out a la Wimbledon, but if he comes out flat, it's gonna be another beatdown.
     
  17. RF20Lennon

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    Thing is Murray is used the fast conditions of Day where he has been aggressive. In the night you cant get the same speed and kick so you will have to settle for less and Murray will have to find his range.
     
  18. Ellipses

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    For some reason I see this as a straight sets win ... just not sure for who. I will be gutsy and say Federer in 3.
     
  19. wilkinru

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    So many variables...but it mostly comes down to Fed's body.

    Will he recover in 48 hours off of a (pretty fast) 5 set match?

    Or will his tank only have 2-3 sets in it and he will fade in 4 or 5 sets?

    Murray is hitting the ball off the forehand better and his serve is looking solid. Of course nerves are still there - to be sure.

    Murray in 3 seems most unlikely (10%)
    Murray in 4 seems quite possible (15%)
    Murray in 5 seems most likely (25%)
    Fed in 3 is possible (20%)
    Fed in 4 is likely (20%)
    Fed in 5 is unlikely (10%)

    So What I see is the longer the match goes, the worst for Fed.
    If Fed can take the first set quickly then his odds go up quite a bit.
     
  20. PrinceMoron

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    You don't get much fun, obviously.
     
  21. kishnabe

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    Pathetic Murray can only beat Federer in Bof5 when Federer goes through tought 5 setter and 3 setter that went to 19-17.

    How lucky this Murray just like his lucky OG and Lucky US Open(Wind, Berdych).
     
  22. RajFederer

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    As someone said .. If federer comes goating from the start and blasts Murray off taking the set 6-2 ... Federer somehow manages to win the match.. Let be 3 or 4 or 5

    In case he loses the first set.. It's mostly all over for fed... Crucial first set
     
  23. PrinceMoron

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    If he loses the last set it is all over.
     
  24. batz

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    That must explain why those 3 guys have a winning head to head with Roger and Murray doesn't. Oh wait.
     
  25. Russeljones

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    I can see the "Murray was never really tested" factor but the same can be sort of said about Federer prior to his QF. And look what happened - he barely scraped through. Is Murray a better player than Tsonga right now? Undoubtedly. Does he have the belief he can defeat Federer? Undoubtedly. To me this all says Federer needs to raise his game. Unfortunately for Murray fans, we all have seen him turn up a gear or two in the SF and Final. Will he get frustrated if Murray's excellent defence keeps him at bay for a set or more? That's the question.

    I expect a very tight 4 sets with Murray taking the opener in surprisingly one-sided fashion. Angry Federer to close out the match with 4 aces. ;)

    Grandpa Dimitrov for # 18!
     
  26. Hawkeye7

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    Who do you see winning this?
     
  27. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    And federer can't even do it to Nadal on Nadal's worst surface (AustralianOpen2009). :p
     
  28. Relinquis

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    I would love to see Federer in the final, but I'm sticking with my prediction at the beginning of the year. Murray takes the Australian Open.

    This match will be a 5 setter.
     
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    Here http://www.andbethere.com/2013/01/australian-open-quarter-finals-summary.html i originally said that i thought fed would do it but im changing my mind...murray will play aggressively and unless fed is moving very well indeed, his defense wont have the sort of effect it had over tsonga. also, he wasnt exactly convincing with break points and match points against Jo was he..
     
  30. raging

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    I don't think stats, head to head, semi-finals, pressure...etc will be a factor.
    It is all about who mentally believes and can enforce his style of play.
    So many ifs.
    Murray should play freely, question is will he?
    Fed. is going to attack at first chance.
    Fascinating=Murray in 5.
     
  31. ark_28

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    Does anyone know the forecast in Melbourne next few days? Someone on twitter mentioned potential storms? If this does materialise and the roof is closed then Roger becomes a fairly solid favourite IMHO
     
  32. Relinquis

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    Murray wasn't even aggressive against Chardy. i think Murray will win, but not by playing aggressively, rather by returning serve well and grinding points out and trying to get unforced errors from his opponent. He has an athleticism advantage. He should aim to turn this into a long rally marathon.
     
  33. Defcon

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    There is very little chance Muzza will be aggressive. He wins by grinding, like Djoker, and against Fed that is a tried and tested strategy.

    It's too bad Fed can't sustain his level for 3 sets, or he'd win comfortably if his serve and fh are on.
     
  34. batz

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    Bollocks on stilts. Did you miss the OG final? What about the Shanghai semis?

    Grinder Murray hit 32 winners against Chardy.

    So all Fed needs to do to win comfortably is for his serve and forehand to be on and to sustain it for 3 sets. What Murray does is an irreleveance is it? Just those 3 little ifs.
     
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  35. Fedex

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    32 winners in 3 sets isn't aggressive?!
     
  36. Relinquis

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    did you see the match or just highlights and statistics? do you know how winners are calculated?

    Apart from his returns of serve winners (which i acknowledged as being a weapon), he has to grind out until the opponent makes a mistake like rushing the net after an average paced ball and he gets passed by a normal rally ball (murray is good at passing shots though, not taking that away from him). that gets counted as a winner, but it is the opposite of aggressive or offensive tennis.

    for over half the time during the Chardy the match murray was closer to the back line of officials than he was the baseline. It works, i don't blame him for doing it, but it is defensive tennis. the last set was a gimmie anyway as Chardy was mentally resigned to his position/fate.

    It's not an insult guys. Murray is one of the world's best defensive players. There are, arguably, only two or three players that defend as well as he does. This is his main style.

    Honest question:
    Is it really that controversial to say that Murray's main style of tennis is defensive?
     
  37. Federer20042006

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    I have a feeling it will be Murray in straights.

    Federer will probably be tired from the match with Tsonga, and Murray doesn't have any real pressure on him.
     
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    Played Federer Vs Murray on tennis elbow, both CPU and set at Pro level 10 on Rod Laver Arena night match. Federer won 4-6 6-4 6-4 6-1. :)
     
  39. World Beater

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    Andy is the favorite.

    If federer plays with patience, he has a chance.

    This will quickly become a beatdown if roger tries to press too much, and be too aggressive.

    He needs to mix up the slices and the topspin backhand. Take advantage of the murray second serve.

    All in all, he needs to have a good day from the baseline.

    Federer played great in the 5th set against tsonga save for some dumb mistakes. If he can carry his bh and have more consistent fh against murray - he has a chance.
     
  40. sarmpas

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    After Fed's 5-setter and Murray's easy last two matches the physical advantage clearly goes to Murray. If Fed beats Murray, Fed fans may need to worry about a Fed who's too tired for a probable Djokovic showdown.

    Fresh and healthy I strongly favour Fed over Djokovic but when he's tired he won't have the sharpness to jump on short balls and really rush Djokovic to open up the court.
     
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    Hoping Federer recovers and the two have a good match. Would love to see Fed win but I think Murray has a great shot of pulling off a consecutive GS final trip.
     
  42. veroniquem

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    He has a day rest. He'll recover just fine.
     
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    LMAO you have him spot on. He's a serious nutjob who invented "lower casing" someone, then like a paranoid maniac, "sees" the same behavior elsewhere when it doesn't exist outside their own strange brain. Comical and a little bit sad.
     
  44. Numenor

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    Wouldn't surprise me if Murray won in straights, but I'm hoping for Fed in 4.
     
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    Well I see this going to Andy in 4. I think he'll have the stamina, the consistency, and the power. he's clearly a different player to the one who fell to Fed three years ago. Fed's had a great tournament but unless he gets things done cleanly in 3 I think Murray will tire him and pull him left and right.

    That said, Tsonga's appears to be the only serve on tour Fed just cannot read. If he returns a lot better, who knows.
     
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    He's nearing 32 with over 1000 matches in his career. Yeah, okay.
     
  47. Hawkeye7

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    Only 4 of Murray's winners were passing shots.

    It's simply not true these days.
     
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  48. Djokodal Fan

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    I'm going with Murray in 4. But I personally prefer Fed in Finals.

    Murray in finals will pose problems for Djoker since Murray can Outgrind Novak.

    Novak has better chances against Fed @ AO ala WTF style...lets see!
     
  49. McEnroeisanartist

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    Win or lose, Murray is still by far the most boring player out of the top 4.
     
  50. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    federer is the most boring player in the top 4. Never shows any emotion on the court. Murray is by far more interesting (though I think Nadal supersedes them both in that department, since Nadal is the most passionate fighter in tennis I have ever witnessed). :p
     

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