Federer vs Roddick- Basel 2011

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  1. Towser83

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    LOL. 3 hour battle. They played a whole THREE sets! You know what women play all the time. Yeah god forbid someone has to play 3 hours, makes it impossible no? Well only if it's the super fit Nadal.Strange how he's the biggest fighter, the most superfit, but he can't be expected to win matches after having a match that wasn't a walk in the park. Strange because I remember Federer playing 2 matches back to back before the Rome final in 2006, both over 2 and a half hours and Nadal strolled by in about an hour 10 minutes. Federer loses the final in 5. Obviously the ONLY reason he lost was because he played so much longer.

    Funny also how Federer got the harder draw at the WTF, made shorter work of it, but Nadal is unlucky that he was not good enough on the day to beat Murray in easier fashion.

    Also regarding an earlier post, it's usually Federer who plays average (as in plays good but then bad at key points) against a superhuman Nadal, and almost wins before cracking (example - Wimbledon 2008, AO 2009) It's only really on clay he has to play his total best (example first set of RG 2006) and keep Nadal not playing well for him to win. Grass and hardcourt favour him, it's just his inability to play his best under pressure that results in Nadal winning.
     
  2. Agassifan

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    2/11 is still better than 0/6 and you call that a rivalry?
     
  3. abmk

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    LOL, did you even read what BS Mike Sams was sprouting out ?

    Comparing Nadal-Federer to federer-roddick ? That's got to be the joke of the year !

    Nadal does own federer on clay, but their H2H is fairly even outside of clay
     
  4. abmk

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    yes, Nadal knew federer's drop shot on setpoint was going to land an inch outside, right ? Bah, clueless !!

    Federer was tough enough to pull it out twice at the biggest stage of tennis, Wimbledon and thrice at the biggest event outside of slams , beat him twice on clay ( including a bagel ) . Don't give me the tired BS , federer was able to play a tough 5-setter at rome vs nadal in 2006 the day after a tough match vs nalbandian. So much for nadal is so tough , blah blah blah ...

    Besides madrid 2009 , the 'only' difference was that federer was 2/2 on BPs and nadal 0/3. Was that because nadal was tired ? LOL !
     
  5. Mike Sams

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    Federer was lucky to escape Wimbledon 2007 with the trophy. Remember how awful the tournament was? Federer skipped a round as Haas pulled out and had 4-5 days of rest while Nadal is playing every day. Federer was in massive trouble in that final. Basically down break points and needing his serve to pull it out while Nadal was feeling the effects of a long drawn out tournament.
     
  6. Mike Sams

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    Federer's dropshot attempt at such a crucial point showed how nerves were beginning to take over as he sensed Nadal getting stronger. A drop shot attempt on set point says everything about Federer's mentality. A shot he hated for most of his career and now he's using it on set point against one of the fastest guys on the tour. LOL! Federer lost that match before it began.
     
  7. illkhiboy

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    Now you're getting to NadalAgassi/Davey25's level.

    It's not like Federer missed the drop shot by a mile - it was inches out. And he's been using the drop shot very effectively since 2004/2005.
     
  8. abmk

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    yes, he was feeling the effects of a long drawn tournament, that's why he played by far the best grass court match of his life ( till then ). :roll:. That's why he got the breakpoints first in the final set as well !?

    While Nadal had a rough few days before the semi, djoker retired in the semis giving him more than enough rest.

    Nadal was just as lucky in 2008 wimbledon as federer was in 2007 .....to a lesser extent same in AO 2009 as well , federer's shot that would have given him the break at 5 all in the 3rd set was just barely out.
     
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    LOL, wut ????

    Federer always had the dropshot in his arsenal . He didn't use it that much before the CC season in 2009. He's been using it regularly since then.

    He's used it against pretty much everybody since then, including the faster guys in nadal, djokovic, murray etc ... The dropshot had nothing to do with nerves. He just missed it by a very small margin. It was after that failed attempt, that nadal got back into the match and federer's play and confidence went down the dumps for that set ( actually for about 8-9 games after that )

    If federer lost the match even before it began, how did he go up 5-2, 40-15 in the first place ? How did he break nadal to force a breaker in the 2nd ? How did he break nadal twice after being down a break in the 3rd to win the 3rd ?
     
  10. Povl Carstensen

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    Why are Nadal fans such an angry lot?
     
  11. Towser83

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    We saw at the French Open how having 4 days off can possible knock you out of your stride. The backed up schedule also effected Djokovic who might have had a real shot at beating Nadal had he not been so exhausted.

    Also you can say Nadal was lucky in 2008. Really he didn't play any better than he did in 2007 but Federer played worse and Nadal was more confident having been handed the Hamburg final and destroyed Federer in RG. Still even at 2 sets to nothing up he almost threw the match away, only to be handed it back amongst the randomness of darkness
     
  12. pringles

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    Still nothing like going 0-6 against a rival younger than you (no 5-year difference this time for Rafa which benefits him) accross all surfaces while in your prime. Most of the matches aren't even close unlike Federer-Nadal where Fed choked away most of them, especially on clay.

    If Nadal owns Federer, what is Djokovic doing to Nadal, then? Pulverizing seems to soft of a word, I think.
     
  13. niff

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    I thought this thread was about Roddick?
     
  14. Povl Carstensen

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    It went off on a tangent here:
     

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