Federer: Winner of Roland Garros 2009

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  1. theagassiman

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    We would all (or most of us anyway) love to see Federer make his first atp title Roland Garros of this year. And he can do it. Everybody knows that.
    And I think he will do it. Anyone agree, or is the only nutcase me?
     
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  2. tennis-hero

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    you are 100% correct

    although the smart money is on andy roddick

    :rolleyes:
     
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  3. jamesblakefan#1

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    No, just the troll in you.
     
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  4. Ryoma Kun

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    I think it's feasible... maybe with the wedding out of the way he might be able to collect himself!
     
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  5. GameSampras

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    God I hope not. LOL
     
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  6. tudwell

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    How on earth is this thread trolling?
     
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  7. gj011

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    I certainly hope not.

    OP should not speak for all (or most) of us. This is not a fed fanboy forum.
     
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  8. egn

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    If this happens I will be in utter shock and confusion and demand to see if Toni or Rafa Nadal placed some huge bets on Fed to win the tournament.
     
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  9. gj011

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    This is indeed a troll thread.
     
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  10. julesb

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    Federer couldnt even keep his nerves together at the French Open from 2004-2007 to beat Nadal or win the event when he was at his peak. In 2004 he played a miserable match and lost in straight sets to washed up Kuerten. In 2005 he was playing poorly but still on course to take Nadal to a 4th set until he began to complain about the light and play continuing and fell apart to lose the 4th set from a break up. In 2006 he went up a quick set and break, then completely fell to pieces, playing about half as well as the Rome final where he should have beaten Nadal . In 2007 Nadal was getting further out of reach, and Federer again didnt step up and perform in the big match vs someone who he had to play 110% to have a shot of beating on that surface.

    So even in his prime he couldnt win the French Open because: a)he wasnt quite good enough on clay, particularly compared to Nadal, b)he also couldnt keep his nerves together to perform to his potential any of those years. So anyone who think he has any real shot this year as his form especialy on clay are going downhill fast, and with an improved overall field and further improved Nadal, are delusional. He will probably lose in the quarters this year to someone like Ferrer or Wawrinka in fact.
     
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  11. P_Agony

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    Because you're in it.
     
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  12. icedevil0289

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    oh please give me a break. The OP might be delusional, but it is not a troll thread. Wasn't there another thread recently that was like "mark my words, andy murray will the french open 2009 champion"? Just because someone suggests that federer, a 3 time finalist, can win the french open, does not make it a troll thread. Your hatred of fed is so blinding.
     
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  13. julesb

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    Then put your mind at ease. If your hope is for Federer to not win the French this year or ever at this point you have nothing to worry about. 2007 was his last real shot of any kind, 2006 his last pretty good shot. His window of opportunity there is long closed now.
     
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  14. Federer will not be confident enough to win Roland Garros, especially not having already won a tournament.

    He does, however, have a good chance of making the final if he doesn't run into An Dee Murr Ray or No Vac Joke Oh Vich along the way. :)
     
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  15. gj011

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    No, because it is opened to provoke negative reactions. The wording:

    exposes it as a pure troll thread.

    I am not surprised that someone like you didn't get it.
     
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  16. gj011

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    I explained in my previous post why is it a troll thread. Not for the reasons you mentioned.
     
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  17. jamesblakefan#1

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    Any thread that states a personal preference as fact, to me is trolling. The evidence of Fed's recent play doesn't support the fact that he's definetly gonna win the FO. It's ok to want him to win it. You don't see me putting "James Blake is the next French Open champion" threads up, do you? No, because it's not supported by facts & logic.

    It'd be one thing to put up a thread about Fed's realistic chances, but don't post a thread that he's definetly gonna win it, just because you love the guy and want him to win it.
     
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  18. thalivest

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    No I would not like to see it happen at all, nor am I remotedly worried it will happen any longer. Federer has zero chance to ever win the French at this point, zero, zippo, nada.
     
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    It's actually quite the opposite. If it's trolling anyone, then it's Federer fans, since he calls them nutcases.
     
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  20. icedevil0289

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    okay i get what you're saying, but the OP did not say he definitely will. He said he thinks he can. Btw, there was a similar thread about murray as well, wasn't there?
     
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    But when the title of the thread is "Federer:Winner of Roland Garros 2009", you know you're gonna get Nadal fans riled up right off the bat, they're probably not even gonna bother to read the OP. And as far as the Murray thread, two wrongs don't make a right. It'd be different if there was a questionmark, and not just a definite statement.
     
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  22. P_Agony

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    Did you ever consider a title like "Federer: Winner of RG 2009" is meant for Federer fans ? Hence the "We would all" statement?

    However, I am not surprised that someone like you didn't get it.
     
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  23. jamesblakefan#1

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    But this board isn't just for Federer, or Nadal, or any particular fans. It's for fans of tennis, of all players, and if you're on here, your opinions shouldn't be so jaded as to only discuss one player. It's ok to want him to win, but don't speak for everyone on this board when you say we would all want him to win. There was a thread a few weeks back which preferenced for "Fed fans only", and I turned away. Maybe more fanboys need to start putting these preferences on their threads, instead of it just being a board full of Fed and Nadal fans bashing each other.

    And yes, I am "jamesblakefan#1", but I speak on all players, and I do it pretty objectively, because I like watching tennis, not just one player.
     
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  24. charliefedererer

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    Federer: Winner of Roland Garros 2009

    Wake up. Wake up. You seem to have dozed off, had a dream, and are talking gibberish in your sleep.
     
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  25. ctdeuce

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    if this is to happen, i would imagine nadal will have to have a freak injury...or lose to someone else earlier on like Murray or Verdasco and then Fed would have to beat them.
     
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  26. veroniquem

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    Why so timid? The thread should be: Federer: winner of Rome, Madrid and RG 2009
    Now I'm impressed!
     
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  28. Danstevens

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    If Fed could manage it, winning the French would be a great way to announce a triumphant comeback. However, I must admit that it is not likely. It would be great but I doubt we'll see it.
     
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  29. Chelsea_Kiwi

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    It's not. How is he trying to get a negative response by saying most of us. It's true most of us would like to see him win so how is that trolling?
     
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  30. maximo

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    Stupidest thread i have ever read.
     
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  31. 120mphBodyServe

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    My heart sank when i heard about last year's FO Final...
    And thought Roger would never win the French...
    Maybe this year, maybe not.. Stranger things have happened...
     
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  32. BorisBeckerFan

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    The biggest problem with this statement is that not everybody knows that. Specially Federer. If Nadal is taken out by somebody else just maybe. Last year I wanted to Fed to win it. Even at the begining of this year I would have liked Fed to win it. Call me a fairweather fan all you want but I no longer have faith in Fed and his interviews and sobbing have made me not root for him anymore. I'm not a bandwaggoner either as I am not a Nadal fan. And by the way you just might be nuts. Had you said Djokovic It would at least be someone who has recently demonstrated a willingness to battle Nadal on clay. In someways I hope Fed proves me wrong but I just don't see this happening. I tried to deny it for a long time but his window for winning the French has closed. If Fed wins the French, it would be a miracle. And I don't mean like a "I was cured from cancer" type miracle. I mean a supernatural "I was born without arms and legs and then they grew in overnight" miracle.
     
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  33. seffina

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    It's not nice to say things like most of us. It will provoke people. He could have simply avoided that by saying us Fed fans or something of that ilk.

    I would be immensely happy for Roger if he won.
     
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  34. TheNatural

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    I AGREE.

    Fed is no chance in singles. But In doubles with Wawrinka he can do it!

    Vamos Roger!

     
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  35. Bloodshed

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    As much as I would love Fed to win RG this year (that would definately put critics by his side and leaving him alone about the mental block for GOOD), it's never going to happen if he will run into Nadal all the time.
     
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  36. TennisBatman

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    If Federer wins the French Open this year, he will have a victory spasm like never before. It will be so intense that Mirka will hate him for the rest of his life.
     
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  37. Pirao

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    No chance. Even if Nadal gets injured, which he won't, there is still Djokovic. Let's be realistic here. He has chance of winning Wimbledon, but not RG.
     
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  38. theagassiman

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    No, the window is still there.
    But Federer's been ramming it closed.
     
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  39. sh@de

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    OP, I would love for Fed to win. And he probably could do it, but the chances must be, what? 0.00000001%? I reckon even Djoker has a bigger chance this year, and that'd probably only be 0.000001%. Realistically speaking, of course Nadal's gonna claim another FO crown.
     
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  40. Jay_The_Nomad

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    Federer might not even make it to the French Open finals...

    The guy hasn't really been flying.. and gone are the days when a Federer final was a given.
     
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    That makes two of us. :)

    lol, quite a unique comment:
     
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  42. jman

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    1 Grandslam Final, 3 Masters Semi's is not a bad start to the year for any other player. Sure by Federer's standards, it not great, but it's a better start than what he had last year.

    He probably will make it into the final again, but from there on, it's anyone's guess.
     
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  43. The-Champ

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    If Rafa doesn't take the title, I hope Roger will.
     
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  44. Winners or Errors

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    I don't know. I think Djokovic was pretty darned lucky the rain delay came when it did in the last match with Federer. Without the rain delay, I think Federer takes that match. Does the majority here really think he can't win against Djokovic?
     
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  45. sh@de

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    How bout the Nadal is god thread?
     
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    yeah, it's a great start for someone who wants to be in the top 4. but it's not a great start for someone who wants to win a grandslam since he's lost every time he's played his rivals for the prizes, and hasn't won a tournament this year.

    it's not anyone's guess in the final. if he meets Nadal, unless Fed does something radically different from what he's done in past years, taking into account he's not playing as well as he has done in those years, he's going to get taken apart.

    if you guys want to take the football fan route of chanting through the pain, well it's strange to get that wrapped up in another person. and it totally ignores the reality of roger's difficulties on court this year.
     
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    obviously you haven't read YOUR threads.
     
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    FO failures


    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that Federer went up a break in the second set of the 2006 FO final. Nadal started out miserably in that match, and Federer played well enough to easily take the first set, but when the second set started Nadal had collected himself. I believe it was on serve, Nadal up 2-1, with Federer serving. Federer got a lead of 40-0 in that fourth game, and then he missed an easy volley at the net. Then Nadal came back to win that game, and then it was Federer who fell apart and gave away that set. From that point on, Nadal dictated play as Federer really had no answer to Nadal relentlessly pinning him on the ad side with the forehand to backhand exchange. Federer persisted in hitting an increasingly broken top spin backhand instead of mixing it up with the slice. Federer did show some life when he broke late in the fourth and managed to get into a tiebreak, but then he played quite uninspired tennis. All in all, it was a mediocre match, failing to live up the epic final in Rome just a few weeks earlier.

    In 2007 I think he actually played better. Particulary it seemed that he hit the backhand better and I don't think that exchange was decisive like it was the year before. But he had a trademark first set against Nadal where he had multiple break points that he failed to convert. He recovered to play a great second set and it looked for a brief moment like he had found a way to beat Nadal, but then he got off to poor starts to the third and fourth and never recovered. But I think he had as good a chance that year as in 2006.
     
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  49. veroniquem

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    RG is not an ATP title, so it couldn't be his first no matter what!!
     
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    Obviously your stupid.
     
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