Federer's 1st serve percentage...

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  1. The Gorilla

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    It's the set-by-set percentage that people have noticed. It was abysmal in the first two sets (38% and 57% respectively - average in the 40s), and had it not have been, he could have been 2 sets to 0. Most people acknowledge that he was going to need a lead like that to have even a chance at Nadal.

    Serving at 70 & 80% in the last two sets, by which time Nadal was 'on', wasn't helping him when he gave away a break here and there.
     
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    I don't even think it hit 40% let alone 38% in the first set, and had he won that set it could've been a different match. Who knows what confidence and a set lead could do to Roger in the final of the french.
     
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    Exactly. I felt the same way, I wish he did take the lead.
    Surprising, I though his 1st serve % in the first set was about 28 or 30%. Certainly seemed like it.
     
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    I think Eurosport showed it at 33% in the first set.
     
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    57% is decent, 60% is th benchmark really.
     
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    It's decent... but he's playing Nadal. Decent doesn't necessarily get the job done.

    The key is that he only averaged 4X % for those two sets, and if he'd averaged excellent (over 60), and had the 'putaway' FH working too, well he'd probably have been (comfortably) 2 sets to 0 up. From 2-0 up, I'd say he would have a better-than-even chance of winning the match, whereas at 1-1 it really never looked like he was really going to get in it.
     
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    Nicely said.
     
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    maybe after 4 serves he was at 25%, which is meaningless.
     
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    RG Official website listed first set at 28%.

    That is ABYSMAL.
     
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    Yeah, that's what I heard during nbc's coverage, and it was horrible, indeed.
    It was one of the reasons why I thought Federer couldn't collect himself to take advantage of all those break chances during the 1st set. [Apart from Nadal's good playing and Federer's less than normal quality of playing during the break points]
    With his struggle to hold without good serving (which also prevents him from even executing the game plan of dominating/attackng from the start in his own service game), he seemed to be too concerned about how to hold his game once he broke, instead of concentrating on breaking.

    And I was quite annoyed by McEnroe's harping on the lack of s & v play from Federer during the 1st set. I thought he's pretty o.k. commentator until that day, but it was quite ridiculous of him to blame someone on not s&ving when he couldn't find the first serve....
     
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    Mac did make a valid point about Federer not being aggressive several times on Nadal's second serve. Once Roger stayed far back behind the baseline and made the laziest return I've ever seen.
     
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    Didn't he have a 6-1 lead in the first set at the French last year?
     
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