Federer's arrogance once again

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  1. HollerOne5

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    I think this quote speaks for itself, Federer talking about the possibility of playing Nadal in the Wimbledon finals.

    "I would love to play him," he said. "I've lost so many times against him on his favorite surface; I've gotten so, so close. Obviously I'd like to play him here four or five times, but grass is such a short season. I'm lucky enough my strength is also on clay, on hardcourt, indoor: That's what he's still working on. That's also why I'm by far the No. 1 player in the world."

    It doesn't matter if its true, its unnecessary to state, to remind people that you are number one just because you can't beat the number 2 every time you play.
     
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  2. jukka1970

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    Can you please put down the site you got this from, so I can read the question he was asked to which he gave that response?
     
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  3. artworks

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    Obiviously, Nadal got into his nerves. It's more on insecurity than arrogance in my opinion.
     
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  4. zorg

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    Can I see the site you got that from. I can't imagine Federer saying that. Although I might, if Nadal said something about beating him and he should be number 1.
     
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  5. grimmbomb21

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    I agree. If it was really said. Hopefully Nadal can get to the final so he can play Fed on his surface. It's got to be annoying to be the best in the world by such a large margin, then have so much difficulty beating the number two guy, who can't manage to get to a final to play you on your best surface.
     
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    bingo.
     
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    Again Roger just speaks the truth and all the Nadalettes throw a tantrem.
     
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  8. The Pusher Terminator

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    Couldnt agree more. Like most Fed fans you have missed the point.

    Take your pick...either Fed is arrogant or Nadal got into his head. Its a lose lose situation for Fed & fans.
     
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  9. austro

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    This is just made up by someone trying to stir the pot. He hasn't said that.
     
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  10. Marat Safinator

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    theres no link. but if he has said that: good for him. nadal is a jackass.
     
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  11. superman1

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    I haven't read him saying that in any press conference. He did say this:

    Q. It's a long way off, of course, but if this were to come down to a final between you and Rafael Nadal, what do you think that would do for the development of the rivalry, how might that fuel even more interest in men's tennis?

    ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, it's not all me and him, you know. Even though the attention was very big throughout the clay court season because we played in three finals, and before that just leading up we were playing in Dubai, too, in the finals. Obviously, it would be sort of interesting now on grass, you know. We don't know how good he still is, you know, because he had a pretty good draw so far, even though Andre, you know, is a tough player. Obviously, if he made the final, that would be quite a surprise, I think, to many, even though, you know, he's such a good player that you could expect him to.

    Q. To what degree would it surprise even you?

    ROGER FEDERER: Well, to a certain degree (smiling).

    Q. Can you elaborate?

    ROGER FEDERER: No, I mean, he hits the ball so well, you know. He's a good mover. So obviously, he's got, you know, that strength going for him. And then obviously the confidence and everything. So that makes a big difference in the game.
     
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  12. skip1969

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    remember back in school, when there was that ONE guy that you couldn't STAND . . . you know the guy i'm talkin about . . . the one you absolutely hated (for whatever reason)??

    did you go following that dude around school, eavesdropping on his conversations, quoting him at every opportunity to your friends, just so that you could PROVE what an a**hole he was?? did your life become consumed by this guy, and he became the topic of every conversation?? did you constantly obssess about him, so much so, that it made you look like some deranged person who was liable to do anything to prove to the world that this guy was a first class heel??

    of course you didn't. you simply determined that the guy at school . . . well, you and him didn't really get on very well. you didn't like him, you were never GOING to like him, and that was that. and then you went about living your life, steering clear of him as much as possible, purposely avoiding him even, never really bringing him up in conversation (or saying too much if someone else did), comforted in the knowledge that come graduation day, you'd probably never have to see him again.

    well boys, that little strategy . . . it still works.
     
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  13. David L

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    This sounds made up. I don't think we'll get a link, because there is'nt one.
     
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  14. Grimjack

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    This would only be true if he were spontaneously bleating truth to anyone who could hear. As it is, he's simply answering questions that the media are demanding answers to. And he's doing so eloquently and honestly, unlike the Queen of Clay, who sort of bumbles his way in caveman English through everything.

    But then, I wouldn't expect you to see the obviously correct third option. Holy ****, this site is full of idiots.
     
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  15. David L

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    Don't you realise? The quote is fake.
     
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  16. El Diablo

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    My favorite Federer quote came from James Blake, who pointed out after the two played a final that Federer was the only player who sent him get-well wishes when he was in a hospital. Shall we judge people by their rushed unprepared responses to an interviewer or they way they actually live their lives before we deem them arrogant. I think Federer's generous instincts make him a vulnerable interviewee -- he tends to give interviewers long rambling answers than can sound self-absorbed. I don't really know if Federer is the best or second-best player in the world midway through 2006 but the guy is a magnificent champion, and we're still eagerly waiting to see if Mr. Nadal will ever do something worthwhile for anyone but himself.
     
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  17. ATXtennisaddict

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    i think what he means is that he has a lot more points because he's more consistent on other surfaces as well.
     
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  18. Manda_D

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    plus, who cares if he was supposedly sounding arrogant? dont you think by now he has a right to be even just a little arrogant??!! give the kid a break why dont you.
     
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  19. tennisjunkiela

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    i too think that this quote is made up since we haven't gotten a link
     
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    Diablo, I must say I don't agree with this part of your post. I can understand the thought that he may not be the best player in the world (solely based on his record against nadal, nothing else), but not even second best? By any chance have you seen the points for Federer and Nadal...and then seeing who is next in line??? It's a long shot that either of them drop to the #3 spot.
     
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    If the quote is real; it is the truth. I just hope (if Nadal reaches the final) he can give Federer some trouble.
     
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  23. Rickson

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    Federer can beat Nadal on grass and hard courts and is catching up on clay. Being a great all around player on every surface is what makes Federer number 1.
     
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  24. tennisjunkiela

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    wow, thanks for the link. i thought the commentary right after roger's comments was very interesting:

    "That last reminder was unnecessary, but perhaps the clearest sign that Nadal is in Federer's head. You know what they say about overcompensation. Sometimes, even real men get insecure."
     
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  25. Taram_Nifas

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    Why are their still some lingering doubts about the authenticity of the Federer quote? I've read it myself.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/sl_price/07/05/showdown/

    What Federer says is accurate for the most part, even Nadal is probably surprised he's played so well on grass. Federer is number one untill Nadal overtakes him, which could very well happen.
     
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  26. VamosRafa

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    Roger does sound very insecure in that quote.
     
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  27. Rory G

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    Yeah, why wouldn't a young man from Spain be fluent in English?! He should learn to speak correct English so people like you can understand him!! You are right...this site does have a few idiots ;)
     
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  28. Simon Cowell

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    No he can't. Nadal beat him on the FAST courts of Dubai this year. It's over for Fed on all other surfaces than grass (Which Rafa can full well beat him on)
     
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  29. Rickson

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    Yes he can. Federer beat him in Miami.
     
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  30. VamosRafa

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    Yeah, but that's a slow hardcourt, according to most folks here. And the year before that, Rafa beat him there anyway.
     
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    Susan, I can respect you more than the want to be American Idol judge because you stuck with your player through thick and thin, but do you really feel that Rafa has a chance against Roger on grass? Do you really think that's the case?
     
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  32. Fatmike

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    why would'nt he say so if it's true....
     
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    How come everyone gets mad everytime someone talks about how good they are? You want everyone to go Kim on us and be like...

    " You know, I played 2.7384/10 out there. I really didn't expect to win. I thought I was gonna tank and lose my rank"
     
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  34. shawn1122

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    My friends, sometimes the truth hurts.
     
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  35. Offshore

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    Am I the only one that likes them both, for different reasons? I like Federer because of his unequalled ability and creativity on the court. He is a good sport, and very professional. Also very likeable. I have not enjoyed watching someone play as much as this in many years, if ever. A great champion. I like Nadal for his fighting spirit. He is also very likeable and respectful of the game and his opponents. For someone to be so polished on and off the court with the success that he has had, the media scrutiniy, and his young age is extremely rare. His game is also a enjoyable to watch for the pure athletisism and unbelievable shotmaking. That is why when the two play each other, on any surface, it is tennis at its best.
     
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  36. The Pusher Terminator

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    Have you ever noticed that Roger has bad things to say about Nadal but Nadal always says nice things about Roger. Ever wonder why? According to Tennis week its because Roger is mentally suffering:

    "Everyone knows I like Roger," Nadal says, there is never any criticism, truculence or even a hint of any malice towards Roger. Federer, on the other hand, has shown glimpses of irritation at Nadal. This year he accused Nadal's coach, uncle Toni Nadal, of illegally coaching from his box. He called Nadal's game "one-dimensional" before this year's defeat at Monte Carlo.

    Last year at the French Open, Federer seemed slightly annoyed when reporters told him that Nadal said there was "no favorite" to win Roland Garros. "That's an interesting way to put pressure on people," said Federer. "It's clever. He's not stupid. I think there are a number of favorites here, and he knows well who they are."

    In the aftermath of Nadal's victory over Federer in the French Open final, the Swiss stylist issued a subtle slight at Nadal by calling him "a grinder" immediately after the match.

    Let's be blunt now, Nadal has pushed Federer around for 14 months and so far the Swiss gentleman has had no answers, no effective counterattacks. The ruthless bullying on the court just continues on. It's an intriguing clash of wills between the two strongest tennis players on earth today, a compelling drama with many chapters to read in the future. What ideas will Federer devise on how to halt this domination at the hands of Nadal? What can Roger do to circumvent his failings in the psychological warfare department? Is Nadal much smarter than his young age would suggest? Is he actually more intelligent than Federer is on court, using that higher tennis IQ to be able to outplay him five consecutive matches? Has Federer been intimidated by the intensity and fury of his powerful rival? "......

    Tennis Week
     
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  37. HollerOne5

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    Everyone is saying that the quote is true so its ok, but the title of the thread is "arrogance" and thats exactly what it is.....

    Obviously he is insecure, because no one is doubting that he is number one, but he feels he needs to remind everyone that he is....then, by using the words "by far the #1" is just ridiculous. Rafael would never say such a thing, even in his broken English.
     
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  38. shawn1122

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    He was just looking at it in terms of ranking points. He's like 3000 points against the #2 player. I think that makes him "by far the #1"
     
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  39. HollerOne5

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    Actually he is more around 2700 ahead yes, and if Nadal wins Wimbledon over Federer, that lead will be cut directly in half. Federer is worried believe me....
     
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  40. HollerOne5

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    And either way, its just to show that Roger is definitely rattled by Nadal and there is no need to say such things, even if he is 5,000 points ahead in the rankings, does anyone understand the point of that?
     
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  41. The tennis guy

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    You need to put context for the answer from Federer. This is what Federer is responding to:


    But the most heavily trafficked these days -- because of both source and outrageousness -- is the one voiced by Swedish tennis legend Mats Wilander. "Rafael has the one thing that Roger doesn't: balls," Wilander told Sports Illustrated in Paris. "I don't even think Rafael has two; I think he has three."


    What would you say when repond to question like this?
     
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  42. heartman

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    I love me...

    As a champion who is currently in the league of the game's best ever players, Roger is neither arrogant or overconfident. He speaks from a wealth of accomplishment few have ever achieved - he's a nice guy, a true sportsman, a humble winner and a noble loser. He's a wonderful role model for tennis, for all ages. I know it sounds sappy...whatever, it's true.
     
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  43. fastdunn

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    There's supposed to be differences in male and female competition
    patterns. Females tend to take on-court matters off court while
    males don't. Many top female pros are enemies each other in their
    off-court personal life. Male top pros tend to befriend each other
    while competing fiercely on court.
     
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    Noble loser huh? You might think this because its only happened a handful of times in the past 3 years, but trust me, he is far from a noble loser. He even admitted that when he was losing more often and wasn't number one, he was a bad loser. Just because you win everything, it doesn't justify saying you are a noble loser.

    Throwing his racket in Miami 05 and smashing a ball in Monte Carlo 06 definitely not so humble and noble. After losing the FO final, referring to Rafa as a grinder, he was definitely disturbed by it....I think everyone overestimates Roger's comments as being genuine, when in actuality, he thinks he's god's gift to the tennis world.
     
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  45. typingchamp

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    Yes, and also remember that Nadal missed the Aussie Open so he has zero points from the start of year and also zero points from Masters Final. Those are two huge tourneys to have zero points at. US Open, Rafa also lost early.

    So . . . if he stays injury free, he can have a good shot at number one. I didn't say he has it, but he has a good shot because he can't do worse than getting zero points.

    Roger has mentioned far too many times negative comments about Nadal while Nadal always speaks highly of Roger.
     
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  46. fastdunn

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    Federer is cranky and insecure becasue Nadal exposes Federer's
    weakness: weak backhand and net game. Against Nadal even his
    footwork looks slow sometimes. This threatens the base
    of his reign, IMHO.

    Actually he is right about his being #1 by far but Nadal is "potentially"
    serious challenge to his reign and he knows it. That's why he is anxious
    and cranky now about Nadal.

    But this is only beginning of the battle. Still big uncertainties on
    Nadal future on hard courts and grass courts..
     
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  47. HollerOne5

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    This is true, but Rafael has to defend two masters series events, but has 1 point to defend at Cincy and 0 in Paris, before the Masters Cup. Roger also has 0 to defend at 3 remaining masters events from not playing last year. Only time will tell.....
     
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    lately, every time federer has to answer a question about nadal, he says something unpleasant. Federer is supposed to be a nice well-mannered person, but it doesn't show.
     
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  49. tlm

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    Fed is a big headed jerk,he always has been,the fed fans are so in love with him it doesnt matter what he says.

    He has made many arrogant statements in the last few years,but like always there is a boat load of phony excuses.
     
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  50. The tennis guy

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    What excuse do you need when you win 7 slams in 3 years? It seems others are trying to find excuse why Federer is still 2700 points ahead.
     
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