Federer's Forehand vs Nole

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  1. RadicalMPfan

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    Did anyone notice some of the forehand exchanges in the first set? Fed blasted a few forehands that Nole couldn't handle with his own forehand. My opinion is that this is a major reason Nole appeared to be demoralized on the court. I know when I play and someone overpowers my greatest strength, I tend to give up on myself. It is one of the worst feelings in tennis.
     
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  2. Mighty Matteo

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    nole's backhand is better than his forehand
     
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  3. Cup8489

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    But Djokovic's baseline game isn't just his backhand. He expects that he should be able to go toe to toe with Federer, and when he couldnt, he realized that Federer was neutralizing his greatest offensive weapon... and lost heart.
     
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  4. TeflonTom

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    lowut? djok's forehand aint his 'greatest strength'. ownin whats currenty the best bh in tennis is.

    when he first came on the scene, djok's fh was useless. much better these days but still not his best shot

    thread is massive pile of fail
     
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  5. Raging Buddha

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    So Federer was just doing common sense and targeting Djoker's weaker side with his stronger side and allowing him to win more baseline rallies.
     
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  6. Biscuitmcgriddleson

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    Not really. He's been regarded as one of the best off of both wings. While his backhand is much more solid, his forehand is no slouch. Just go watch some 2007 highlights of the USO and Montreal. You don't get that far and beat the players he did if your forehand is useless.
     
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    It was great to see RF dictate with the FH in the semi. If he produces the same power, aggression and accuracy against Murray, it's game over for GB.
     
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  8. RadicalMPfan

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    So Nole has more backhand winners in a match? I HIGHLY doubt that.
     
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  9. TeflonTom

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    'useless' bein a relative term brah. fact bein, even up until 2010 the way to beat djok was break down his fh cos it got real dodgy real fast on a bad day

    fed used to crack that baby open like a walnut n djok had no answer
     
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  10. RadicalMPfan

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    I see Nole run around his backhand to hit a forehand, but never the other way around. The point being, he sees it stronger even if the internet warriors on talktennis think otherwise. Let me guess, he needs to switch to a bigger head size also?
     
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  11. Biscuitmcgriddleson

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    And when Federer unleashes his forehand the above statement could be true about umpteen players. Djoker is capable of playing offensive first strike tennis but prefers to out-Nadal the tour now.
     
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  12. TeflonTom

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    whats ur point brah? that nole is the best player in the world who can pay offensive tennis on both sides? no **** sherlock. got nothin 2 do with what we talkin about tho.

    my point is that nole's fh is not and has never been his best shot. every1 used to beat nole by exposin his fh. he didnt become a consistently dominant player til he fixed it up, and it still aint his strongest side. therefore, OP wankin on about nole's fh bein his 'biggest strength' is talkin crap.

    thats all dood
     
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  13. CRWV

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    ...Is that english?
     
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  14. Tony48

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    That was so disgusting to watch.

    Novak hitting loopy forehand to Federer on grass. GRASS! Federer just punished him. I wanted to cry
     
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  15. mellowyellow

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    Nole's fh is def his most dangerous side, in 2010 his bh was not looking so good either... Nor his serve. His bh is his steadier side, but not the most lethal. Depending on the opponent will determine for the match what side is his biggest weapon. It is not a constant.
     
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  16. WhiskeyEE

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    Novak always had a pretty good forehand from what I could see. His BH is better, but his forehand was always good.
     
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  17. ibbi

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    Giving up on himself is something that has long been part of this guys persona. I thought it was well and truly behind him after the year he had last year, but there was very little fight in him against Roger the other day, and it was bewilderingly peculiar to see from a world number 1, and defending champion, who had just dispatched Federer so handily in Paris a couple of weeks earlier.

    Fed TALKED a confident game before their Roland Garros semi, but he was a long way from producing. This time he just went out there and did it, and it was beautiful to watch. He's not REALLY the kind of guy to blow hot and cold, so I don't really see how after his last two matches anybody in their right mind could give Andy Murray even half a chance tomorrow.
     
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  18. firepanda

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    Federer has always been able to produce ridiculous angles and power from his forehand: he just overpowered Nole. However, Djokovic was far, far away from his best. I recall a few crosscourt gems in the second set that sent Federer running. If both play their A-game, Djokovic wins the baseline rallies with ease.
     
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  19. DeShaun

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    Nole's is better when each man is swinging 85-90% or more of his maximum power, but Roger's is better when each man is swinging 60-75% of his maximum, and as for the five percent different between 75 and 80, this is where they are equal.
     
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  20. ChanceEncounter

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    This. No matter how strong someone's backhand is, on this level, no one is going to feel their backhand is stronger than their forehand.

    It's all relative. Nole's backhand compared to the other backhands on tour is second to none. It's the best BH in the game. Nole's forehand compared to other forehands on tour is nowhere near as clear cut. He has a lot competition there, and there's a decent case that he's not in the top 10 forehands on tour.

    That said, overall, forehands on tour are much, much stronger than backhands, so even though Nole's backhand is the best in the game and his forehand is not his strongest weapon, it doesn't mean that his forehand is still not a more effective overall shot.
     
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  21. Bobby Jr

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    This ^. Djokovic's forehand is miles better than his backhand. His backhand is just so good it's mentioned more because it's a rarity. Great forehands are almost expected of top players.

    Still, his forehand is nowhere near as good as Federer's if they're both compared on a good day.
     
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  22. helloworld

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    Actually, Djokovic usually hit more Backhand winners than his Forehand winners, which is very rare in ATP Tour. That's why they considered his backhand the best in today's game. It is practically as good, if not better than his forehand side.
     
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  23. Bobby Jr

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    That's because most forehands players hit go to their opponent's forehands - which are also stronger than their backhands. It's generally harder to hit a winner to an opponent's forehand wing.
     
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