Federer's strings

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  1. Newby

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    Why doesn't Federer have a stencil on his racket for Luxilon and Babolat? Doesn't he use strings by those companies? I remember looking at a pic of him earlier in his career when he was still using the PS 85. He had the two stencil stripes for Babolat. What happened to it?
     
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  2. finchy

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    wilson started endorsing him.

    money >>> stencils on racquet
     
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  3. Rabbit

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    Probably the same reason Agassi doesn't stencil Luxilon on his strings. He doesn't get paid to.
     
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  4. david aames

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    He is paid to use Wilson branded gut (which is manufactured by Babolat)
     
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  5. Uhh, is it a hybrid?
     
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  6. perfmode

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    Gut and BB
     
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  7. mary fierce

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    I'm trying to picture a racquet with Wilson, Luxilon and Babolat logos on the strings. You'd need a consultant from NASCAR to try to fit all of them.
     
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  8. Oh yeah! A big red W for the racket, a smaller W for the strings, a L to the side, and a Double Line for the racket being strung on a Babolat machine.
     
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  9. mach1

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    Recently, people here said that he has gone full gut. It looks like it anyway....

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  10. Power Game

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    Definetly ALU crosses:
    From our very own TW homepage:
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  11. finchy

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    he went full gut at wimby. he used hybrid at uso.
     
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  12. THE ANIMAL

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    Nope you got it the wrong way round he had Hybrid at Wimby in final strung at 58 and full gut a USO he went to full gut after Athens and has been using it since.
     
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  13. Power Game

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    Come on, man. Don't try and tell me that the strings in the pic i posted (with new haircut, therefore no doubt it is after Athens) are not a hydrid. There is definetly a color difference.
     
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  14. THE ANIMAL

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    look at us opens photos all gut same in allot of other tourneys he did but at the atp masters as you have shown looks like he’s gone back seems to be switching back and forth.
     
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  15. Power Game

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    True,

    Wonder why he is switching, even when the surface is the same...
     
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  16. perfmode

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    Surfaces AREN'T the same and opponents aren't the same. He strings tighter when he plays Roddick, etc.
     
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  17. thomas martinez

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    Roger used all gut at the US Open, uh, yeah, and I have a bridge to sell you.
     
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  18. HeavyBall

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    Ever wonder which poster has the last word in the most posts?

    No one shuts 'em up like Thomas.
     
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  19. Power Game

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    OK, I believe you. Nothing like a pro stringer to bring the correct info. Thanks
     
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  20. THE ANIMAL

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    Are you blind or something look at all the photos of him at the US open after he won. Even look on his official web site he had all gut.

    In Wimby he started off at 55 first matches and on the final strung at 58 to tame Roddicks serv this is fact as I know people in the Wimbledon string room.
     
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  21. StringBreaker

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    He seemed to use mostly all gut at the Masters and switches to hybrid once in awhile. In fact if you look at gettyimages, he swaps back and forth in that one match against Hewitt.

    Oh and to Thomas Martinez, go to gettyimages, and find a pic of him using hybrid at US Open, there doesnt seem to be a single one.

    So what is it a Suspension or Cantilever? 8)
     
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  22. thomas martinez

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    Well, let me put it to you this way, I was given a bag of string for him at the US Open in case he kicked back racquets during his match. Instructions were to go up in tension a bit compared to what was requested because of a certain person's machine was stringing tighter than our's. Prestretch both the gut for the mains and ALU Rough for the crosses. Tension difference for the crosses. So, now, tell me, you think you know better?
     
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  23. perfmode

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    owned
     
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  24. Power Game

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    Damn man, Thomas indeed owns us :twisted:
     
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  25. BreakPoint

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    That's awesome Thomas! So, in that case, would you happen to know if Federer is using an actual nSix-One Tour? Or a painted Tour 90 or a painted PS 6.0 90? Or perhaps something else? BTW, do you know the exact specs of his racquets? Thanks.
     
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  26. THE ANIMAL

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    You just shot yourself in the foot mate you said it in 1 you were the back up incase fed wasn’t getting on with the full gut job and needed the alu rough combo also that certain person you mentioned is Ron as he does all Feds stringing for him on his own Babolat machine.
     
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  27. thomas martinez

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    No, I really did not shoot myself in the foot. If he was to be using a full on gut job during the match and kicked one back, think here, he would have stayed full gut. You can also see the 4 knots in the pictures that were posted. i can guarantee you if it wasn't a hybrid, it would have been strung one piece.
     
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    Ah I see, he must be using that new WHITE Alu Rough, of course!

    So explanation 1 : He switches between all-gut and gut/alu hybrids depending on how hes feeling, the type of court, type of opponent etc must be utter nonsense, sounds totally implausible.

    Explanation 2 : Even though he buys his Luxilon string like the rest of us, somewhere between the Olympics and US Open, he somehow got hold of WHITE alu rough that look exactly the same as Wilson (Babolat) Gut so the Wilson executives would be happier that no one would think he uses anything but wilson product.

    Yup explanation 2 sounds much more likely.

    P.S. In the 3 pics i posted, the knots can be clearly seen as 2 in the first and last pic, You cant make them out clearly in the other. Time to invest in some new specs Thomas? Maybe stringing racquets all day has affected your eyesight.
     
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  29. HeavyBall

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    Why do you people insist on shaming yourselves?

    Anyone ever string a full gut job in a 16 x 19 pattern in the mid to low 50's (as we know his is strung at)? I have. It moves alot more than it has in those pictures.

    Look at the top picture. The mains have a slightly yellow hue, and the crosses look a little whiter.

    The sun is going to affect the way a camera captures an image, and I have a feeling that the material used to make Lux absorbs and reflects light differently than other strings.
     
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  30. StringBreaker

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    Ok so its a hybrid string job with 2 knots using a special new Luxilon Big Banger Rough (released after the olympics) that absorbs light differently to the normal stuff that makes it look white instead of its normal dark grey. Thanks "HeavyBall", what would we do without you.
     
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  31. thomas martinez

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    Whatever, you all think you know better, than yes, yes you do. It's ok. Chirst,t his is why others like Ron Yu, Tom Parry have come and gone from this board.
     
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  32. chad shaver

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    StringBreaker,

    We all know Tom's "pedigree," so what, exactly, is yours? This is not an attack. You talk like a bit of an insider, so I would like to know.

    Tom,

    Don't take these things personally. Do us a favor and DON'T leave the board, please.
     
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  33. THE ANIMAL

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    What’s this got to do with it there was plain and simple fact in black and white showing what he was using during the US open, but Thomas Martinez had to make his silly comment. Then wouldn’t admit to making a mistake which there is nothing wrong with doing but persisted on trying to show he was right with something that had nothing to do with it. Then when shown he was wrong has to act like a child and say oh im leaving if that’s what he wants to do then its up to him to decide. I’m sure he can provide helpful information to people so wouldn’t it be better on just providing constructive information than just silly comments.

    I made the mistake of thinking he had gone to just all gut since the US open but then someone pointed it out to me he was also using his hybrid. Looked into it and found out he seems to be switching in between dependant on what he’s doing another interesting part of Feds game.
     
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  34. StringBreaker

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    Chad no need for pedigree or to be an insider to be able to see the difference between Natural Gut and Big Banger Alu Rough. And to know that you cant do a hybrid string job with just 2 knots (something Tom pointed out, without noticing the photos showed 2-knot string jobs). I'm not questioning Tom's statement that he strung some hybrids for Fed at the US Open, this makes perfect sense and I have no reason to think Tom would be lying. But I know what Feds hybrid set looks like, if for nothing else, I have a set of his strings cut from his racquet in Athens right here on my desk in front of me, and I have even tried the exact hybrid he uses in my own racquet, strung by the stringer who did his in Athens. The hybrid is Wilson Natural gut (says made in france on it) and Luxilon BB Alu Rough 16 just like the one you buy in a shop, and its dark grey, and theres no way to mistake it for Natural Gut.

    And I can see clearly with my own eyes, that throughout the US Open Tournament, I didnt see him use the hybrid once, he used an all-gut string job thoughout. I watched the Costa, Baghdatis, Agassi, Henman and Hewitt matches in their entirity. And I've looked through every single US Open photo I could find. This was even discussed in posts in this forum at the time.
     
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  35. thomas martinez

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    I did not say I was leaving, nor am I getting childish. What I said was that you are wrong. I can promise you. What I was pointing out in terms of leaving, is that because of these attacks if you will have chased off others. For those that do know Ron, drop him some e-mail personally and find out for sure what he was using, he'll tell you what I just did. If I had made a mistake I would have admitted it, but I know I did not. Not to mention having sat at the door leading up to the player's entrance at Ashe Stadium, getting a nice clear view of Roger, he had a hybrid.
     
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  36. NoBadMojo

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    bottom line = what diff does it make ?? i bet he uses both at times depending on whatever a genius depends on to make decisions of this nature......maybe thomas was there should fed feel the need to tame the all gut (ie was losing) w. the hybrid because he for sure had plenty of same setups in his bag..that obviously never became an issue. who knows....but why would thomas lie about something like this? i can see why good posters leave this board..
     
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  37. perfmode

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    He uses string savers along the 4th and 6th crosses.
     
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  38. david aames

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    Stringbreaker, it's clear that your arrogant ass is not the hybrid type.

    Those threads about what Federer use are getting really stupid... First image is from the semi, second/third is from the quarter.

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  39. Richard Parnell

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    Sorry to butt in but conerning the post on page 2 concerning Feds tension due to the poster knowing someone from the stringing room at Wimbledon.Ron strings all his frames and doesn't string in the room, he just pops in to chill.
    Keep kool guys,
    All the best
     
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  40. Rabbit

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    Maybe it's just me, but those photos sure look like the crosses are some type of textured possibly rough polyester type string. I don't know, but it sure looks like ALU Rough in the crosses to me. As far as the mains go, well I can't swear it's gut, but it looks a lot like gut to me.

    If I had to vote on this one, I'd vote hybrid all the way.
     
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    the only solution is that someone is gonna have to pay fed enough money so he can pose for a picture with his current setup in one hand and the wall street journal in the other where we can clearly see the date ;)
     
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  42. RacquetDoctor

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    Rough in the crosses, Gut in the mains. End of discussion.

    For those that think otherwise, take another drink of that hemlock to finish the job, as you are obvoiusly hallucinating.
     
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  43. THE ANIMAL

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    2 things that are very odd from davids images.

    Top pic is certainly alu rough and gut hybrid.
    The last 2 have spooked me firstly the crosses well im confused there totally they are something rough, the mains don’t look like gut either look more like a poly but might be gut not showing up properly in the image.

    Here is 2 pics of Alu rough (crosses) and Gut (mains).

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  44. ibemadskillzz

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    He goes back and forth between FULL gut and Hybrid
    thomas martinez is right
    It just shows that he can play with anything.
     
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  45. Pro_Tour_630

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    Rabbit, me thinks Fed read my luxilon threads and switched to full gut :mrgreen:
     
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    Michael - The post prior to yours shows that Fed is reading both our posts. He plays with whatever string job he thinks is winning the argument at the time! :)
     
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