Fed's draw is tougher than Nadal's, heres why!!!

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  1. Imaster

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    If you could ask Fed & Rafa whether they would be willing to swap their draws, who do you think would be hesitant?

    It would most definitely be Rafa, coz if he swaps, he would then have to go through Gulbis/Sod. There are a lot of flat hitters on Feds side of the draw, sod, gulbis, wawrinka, tsonga....

    Now lets see, would Fed be comfortable with swapping the draw, I would say, hell yeah. He would even get some match practice of playing against a lefty if he had Verdasco in his draw.

    That proves it.. Fed's draw >>>> Rafa's draw
     
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    even the most hardcore nadturd wouldn't disagree with you...
     
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  3. Dutch-Guy

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    Bull*** thread
    -Gulbis took a set off of Nadal,has since then been overhyped by Fed fan. *Sigh*
    -Soderling:what was his clay season again? :)
    -Wawrinka: Rafa whopped his butt in Rome(6-3,6-1)
    -Tsonga: hasn't beaten Nadal since AO 08(Rafa demolished in Miami)
     
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  4. Gorecki

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    Fed's draw is tougher than Nadal's, heres why!!!


    I'm a Nadalate!

    ps: please feel free to put it the other way around
     
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    Holmes: Then let us challenge them. Come hither young *******s, and defend your matador! What say you to this accusation?
     
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    Holmes: Strong (as ever) reply from the Dutch-Guy. He has some points regarding the above mentioned guys and current form. However, is he in the minority? Would Sir Nadal fans prefer a swap?
     
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    Senior Nadal Pareira wouldn't mind a swap since he'd whopped them all.
     
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    Holmes: You know, it's time like these that I would truly love to ask the question to the guy himself :grin: Seriously, I wonder who he WOULD prefer. I'd love to know.... (am talking Sir Nadal of course).
     
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  9. ChopShot

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    Now that you mention BS...
    - Gulbis: Won his first tournament this year, in QFs or better of 2 Masters 1000's, gone far in several 500's, has taken a huge leap up the rankings, 50-something places, if I'm not entirely incorrect. Beaten Federer, taken an on-form Rafa to the very edge of his clay-court capabilities - if not for the massive nerve-attack in the 3rd set, it would've gone to a breaker which Gulbis, with the way he was serving, would've been fav to win. Has since taken Fed to 3 sets in Madrid, where Rog, as you probably remember, reached the finals. If I were a betting man, I'd wager big money this "new and improved" Gulbis is fully capable of taking both Fed and Rafa to 5.
    - Soderling: Does making the finals of a spaniard-filled clay tourney (i.e. Barcelona) count for a clay-season?
    - Wawrinka: Can't argue with you about the second set there, however, the first 6 games of Set 1 were ludicrously close, a few points there gone Wawrinka's way and not Rafa's, he takes the first set..
    - Tsonga: All the guy needs is a hot streak, and he'll hand out another triple 6-2 beatdown. Made the Semis of Oz, which is better than the showing Rafa put up :twisted: Given, however, clay is the least likely surface for a hot streak to happen, and his show against Fed in that semi was slightly embarrassing.
     
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  10. cucio

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    Tsonga? Come on... You never know, but so far Tsonga has done zilch on clay. Then again, you could have said the same about LeSod last year, but it would be a big surprise if Jo turned out a tough draw here.

    Ferrer, Verdasco, Almagro and JCF have probably made more points on clay than anyone in Federer's half this year, so the OP's assertion could be contested on that basis, but I agree that Roger's half has more players capable of pulling an upset if they catch fire.
     
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  11. Imaster

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    Come on Nadal fans, could you not for once admit that Fed has a tougher draw than Nadal given the circumstances..

    I will admit, Fed has had his share of easier draws, but this draw, it definitely favors Nadal..

    Man up, and accept it....
     
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  12. zagor

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    Nope,Nadal has a harder draw than Fed as always.
     
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  13. Spider

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    Nadal has lost four matches or so in last six years. Finding a difficult draw for him on clay is very tough. Federer has lost to many more players than Nadal so ofcourse you will find more who can take Federer out and not Nadal.
     
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  14. seffina

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    Sorry, I'm not a man and nor do I find it a worthy goal of achieving.

    No, I don't think either draw is particularly difficult. They're both decent. Nadal matches up well with everyone in his draw (and most people on clay). Roger should have one or two difficult matches, but will pull through just fine.

    Murray, now, very little of interest there. Perhaps the big conspiracy here is their attempt to give Jo an easy draw... and not Murray. :)
     
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    Rafa's draw is easier, no trouble admitting whats there in black and white.
     
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  16. Omega_7000

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    Is this guy serious?? :confused:

    So you think Nadal would swap his draw with Fed???
     
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  17. CMM

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    I actually wanted Rafa to have Soderling in his quarter.
     
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  18. Leonidas

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    federer´s half looks tougher ans is probably tougher on the paper, no doubt. The only good thing for federer, and basically the one that matters the most is the fact that he avoids Djokovic (of course, Djokovic would have to make it to the semis). In the end, the only thing that matters for Federer or Nadal is playing the 3-4 players who can actually beat them. You can say that playing wawrinka or monfils is a tough draw, and i agree with that, but those kind of players don´t have a real chance of beating nadal or federer in a Grand slam, and we all know. The only important thing is where Murray, Djokovic,Soderling or del potro (not playing) are placed, cause they are the guys who proved that they can trouble either Nadal or Federer in Slams, period. The rest of the guys have not proved ANYTHING so far
     
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  19. Gorecki

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    i thought Soderling's victory was a fluke....


    this everchanging landscape that is Nadal fans opinion!
     
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  20. gold soundz

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    I completely agree with you, except I'd even remove Soderling from players who can beat Fed or Nadal. To me it seems boring/obvious until we get to the final which will undoubtedly be Nadal vs Fed.
     
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    Federer's draw might be a little tougher, but lets be honest, none of the draws are all that hard. Soderling is not in good form so far, and Federer owns him. Gulbis probably doesn't have the belief to be able to beat Federer in a major. Warwinka? Monfils? You have got to be kidding me.
     
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  22. matchmaker

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    These threads show how tarded this forum is: I first read a couple of newspaper articles before coming to the forum and they all mention that Nadal's draw looks tougher on paper, which is true, if you have a look at the players who dominated this clay court season (Verdasco, Ferrer)
     
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    Verdasco? the same guy that lost 6-0 6-1 to nadal and admits that he will never beat nadal? yeah, real tough match up for nadal that verdaco is
     
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  24. seffina

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    Soderling lost to Rafa by a similar score last year before beating him in the French. You never know who will step up when. As someone said, winning a slam is difficult no matter who you face.
     
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    TMW will win the Grand Slam this year. So hard draw or easy draw, he will win the French.
     
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    This post is the one that makes most sense. If either Fed or Nadal wanna win it, they will have to swipe every one away on their side of the draw anyway.
     
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  27. Mick

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    all i know is if nadal doesn't make it past the first round in roland garros, federer is going to look down on him (based upon his past comment after the final match in madrid) :)

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    "It's unfortunately - or fortunately - like that. If we win all the tournaments like Rafa now and then go out in the first round of the French, everything will be questioned."

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=328265
     
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  28. JoelDali

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    Fed's draw is arrogant.
     
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  29. callmethedoctor

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    You've got to be kidding me.
    http://statracket.net/?view=stats/category.php
    Of all those guys either Fed or Rafa have to face, how many are above 18 on this stat chart and on Fed's side? 3? 3?!?! And you Feder-idolizers think he has the tougher draw? The guys that can beat Red and Rafa are Almagro, Verdasco, Ferrero, Gonzalez, Monaco, and of course Soderling. I will give that one to you, as well as Gulbis. But as Gulbis is a clay-court specialist, so are Almagro, Bellucci, Monaco, Ferrer, Ferrero, Hanescu, etc. I'm actually a Roddick fan, but Rafa definitely has the tougher draw. And WAWRINKA? Honestly?
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=4674912#post4674912
     
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    I would still prefer to see Djokovic in Federer's half of the draw. Murray is not dangerous on clay yet.
     
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  31. rovex

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    Verdasco would have a great chance of beating Federer IMO.
     
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  32. sh@de

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    Maybe actually. Depends if he chokes like he does against Nadal loll.
     
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    Then those journalists who wrote those articles don't have a first clue how tennis works.Tennis is a game of match-ups,any good tall big hitter like Gulbis,Soderling,Delpo etc. is much more dangerous for Nadal even on clay than the likes of Verdasco and Ferrer no matter how more impressive they were this clay season.Nadal has very close to zero chance of losing a set at FO to either Verdasco or Ferrer this year,especially to Verdasco given his recent comments how he doesn't believe he has a chance against Nadal on clay.

    The only threat to Nadal in his part of the draw is Novak but he's in crap form and it's far from certain he'll reach the SF.

    Nadal in the form he's in will probably cruise to title this year regardless of the draw but he also has a good draw to help him out in my opinion(which differs from those great newspaper articles you mentioned).

    When pigs fly,don't worry,your precious Laver is safe.Fed had his chances in 2006 and 2007 at Calendar slam but blew them.
     
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  34. Imaster

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    This!

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  35. P_Agony

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    On clay, there is really no tough draw for Nadal, maybe a less-easy draw, but he's really expected to win against anyone he plays. However, in general, yes Fed's draw is a lot tougher. Nadal got mental clowns which he owns. With Fed's draw, Nadal would have probably lost some sets at least.
     
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