Finally, Eagnas Combo 910 is in the house (long..)

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by mellofelow, Oct 9, 2005.

  1. mellofelow

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    Chapter 1 - Flex 940

    Chapter 2 - Gave up 940

    Chapter 3 – Eagnas 910 & Lessons learnt

    Again, an arrangement was made in the morning to exchange the defective 940 for the 910 plus change. Would have been convenient if he agreed to rendezvous during my lunch hour but Victor (Maxline) insists he must be fed at the same time. Fair enough, we agreed to meet at 1pm but must expedite the transaction for I need to be back in the office for an appointment at 2. He arrived a few minutes late but Mellofelow that I am, didn’t bother me.

    He quickly observed the defective mounting arm of the 940 I brought back, as if he had seen it a thousand times. Without a word, he directly walked to the stocking area where the 910s were stacked. If he had even remotely hinted a sense of apology for selling a defect, we can all thank Confucius for his legacy that preached ‘virtues’ to the billions of people on earth. I wondered if Victor knew who Confucius was. Please, don’t be offended and take this as a racist remark. Frankly, I am quite embarrassed that he and I share the same color of skin.

    Deja-vu again, but this time before I drive off into the sunset, I casually asked Victor “What are the chances of this unit being defective?” He replied with a stern poker face “You get only 2 chances, that’s it!” CLASSIC!!! So off the cuff, I didn’t know if that statement warrants a courtesy laugh. I wouldn’t be surprised if I see his mug on the ‘World Poker Tour’ on TV; he’s a natural.

    Later that night, thankfully everything assembled together without a hitch. The new Turntable is as solid as a rock. The tensioner needed a bit of calibration but all the readings from the digital scale returned to normal. The fit and finish of the machine is acceptable. 20 years ago or so, my Ektelon would have won the beauty contest between the two, hands down. Most importantly right now for the 910, all mechanical parts are functional. My fear of returning back to Maxline was cast aside... for now.

    In all the years of stringing my racquets, I’ve gotten pretty proficient at it, about 20 minutes. But this afternoon using the new machine for the first time, the swivel clamps took awhile to get use to. The spring assisted action was easy to operate and locked solidly. It probably took me around 40 minutes for the first string job but I was double and triple checking every action.

    All in all, I was very impressed! I must admit, I have just completed a better string job than I would have with the Ektelon.

    On a final note, I have to give the Eagnas Combo 910 a few more spin to give it my full seal of approval. For now, it is a very good machine. Initially, I didn’t want to spend $600 + tax on a stringer but if I had to do it all over again, I would have had to give the Gamma X-ST a serious thought. If I had purchased the Gamma, how boring this would all have been. I yearn for the day to see Victor on TV, facing his opponent and say “You get only 2 chances, I AM ALL IN!”
     
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  2. dancraig

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    Thanks for the report.
     
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  3. barry

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    Don't know about the boring part, but the X-ST is made from light-weight aluminum extrusion construction, might be a very flexible machine! Ha! Plus $100 more than a 910, seems steep for a table top. I am not sure about Aluminum, but to my knowledge stainless steel is stronger.
    Thanks for the review, so far everything posted about the combo 910 has been positive. Lot of machine for the money.
     
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  4. Audiodude

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    The X-ST sells for $629.00. That's a difference of $30.00.

    Victor sounds like a true joy. I'm sure his employees must really love working for him.

    Mike
     
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    Thanks for the excellent report. Hope the machine works out for your, I would be interested in reading another report in a couple of months. Victor sounds like a delightful person, over the phone from a thousand miles away I am sure he is much eaiser to deal with.

    Good Luck with your new stringer.
     
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  6. barry

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    The Eagnas 840 ($399) is more like the Gamma X-ST($629). The Gamma is made out of light-weight aluminum extrusion construction and the Eagnas is made out of stainless steel.
    It was a bad comparison, the combo 910($595) is equivalent to the Gamma 6004($1199). I don’t know if aluminum is better than stainless steel, but don’t believe it is. The Gamma I had was all metal, but was shipped with plastic clamps. I bought different clamps and the machine worked fine.

    The Gamma 5003($799) is equivalent to the Eagnas 940($399). I have never had an issue with CS from Gamma or Eagnas. Just call them and order what I need, but I don’t need to pay twice the amount for a machine just because I am worried about CS. If I were, I would just buy 2 940’s and have a complete set of backup parts.

    Also I live 3,000 miles from Eagnas and have never had problems with CS concerning pricing or parts. I call or send an email, they respond. Not worth double the price for extra hand holding since the product broke 1 time in 4 years! I am starting to believe other machines are more prone to breakage, as the one I own has been rock solid. I can understand the extra cost, if it breaks every other month, but my machine is solid and reliable!
     
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    a great read mellowfellow, enjoy!
     
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  8. Audiodude

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    Both of the Eagnas machines you mention use cheap stamped steel turntables. They also both use cone lock clamp bases. Both Gamma machines use higher quality, heavier cast steel turntables and higher quality quick lock clamp bases, among other things. Using your self serving logic the Combo 910 and Flex 940 are also the same machine.
     
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    mellofelow: could you post some pics of your new machine?
     
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  10. barry

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    Actually the 5003 does not have the Cam-Lock swivel clamps and is more like the 940. Not being a Metallurgist, I could not tell you which is stronger, but like you say the Gamma probably has a better paint job. $800 for the Gamma 5003 and $1200 for the 6004. Pretty steep price jump, must be more to it than just spring assisted clamps.

    The 5003 and the Eagnas 940 are very similar machines, just one cost twice as much. Eagnas has a much lower overhead. Even the warranty is the same 5 years.

    Did you ever find out who builds the Gamma machines? Eagnas says Lillie Lee builds theirs. Why is Gamma keeping it a secret, could it be from the same company?
     
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    Barry,

    I briefly owned a Silent Partner Jazz, which does use cone lock clamps. That's one of the reasons I returned it. I though they were annoying to work with. The Gamma clamp bases are much higher quality than the Flex 940.

    If what you say is true, then the Combo 910 is the same machine as the Flex 940.

    And yes, the fit and finish, and overall build quality of the 5003 is indeed better. Certainly worth the $200.00 more than the Combo 910 would have cost me.
     
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  12. barry

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    The combo 910 uses spring assisted clamps, like the Gamma 6004. The 940 like the 5003 does not have spring assisted clamps. The Gamma I had used long time ago used plastic clamps, they worked, but I purchased new metal ones which worked better.

    The 5003 does not compare with the 910, it compares with the 940, feature for feature. The Gamma 6004 compares with the combo 910 feature for feature. The 6004 is supposed to be a newer design. Gammatech had a post on it. To my knowledge the 5003 like the 940 is an entry level machine crank machine. Both do their jobs very well.
     
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    Once again, you're incorrect about the differences and similarities between the machines. The differences are obvious and clear to anyone who cares to visit the ATS and Eagnas websites.
     
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    Just look at the Web sites and compare product / features, it is pretty straight forward. The 940 competes with the 5003, and the combo 910 competes with the Gamma 6004.

    Eagnas.com
    GammaSports.com
     
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    barry,
    You've proven yourself to be a staunch defender of the Eagnas/Maxline camp. I admire that, like I admire the integrity of sticking by a friend through thick and thin. And the Scottish blood in me races when I can find a thrifty bargain (I just rolled the r in my best highland accent). But I've learned this lesson enough times that I must point out with emphasis that a bargain tool really isn't a bargain if you have to replace it. And the corollary to that is that it's a false economy if it doesn't work like it should.

    Per the Eagnas website, they directly compare their Flash 965 with the Gamma 5003. However, their specs for the Gamma appear to be outdated, for the 5003 I just finished assembling has many differences. I suspect that while the Flash 965 might compare with an older Gamma 5003, that the Eagnas Flash 960 might compare more closely with Gamma's most current offerings. Now we're getting closer to apples to apples. Pedestals appear to be identical. Turntables appear identical. Head and throat mount assemblies appear to be identical, with the exception that Eagnas adjusting knobs appear to be plastic, while Gamma's are metal. The mounting arms appear to be identical, they are very well done on the Gamma 5003 and all adjustments are like butta--smoooooth! Clamps are stainless and bases are spring assisted, a dream to work with. Eagnas clamps appear very similar. Here's an advantage of the Flash 960: Eagnas includes two additional badminton clamps while Gamma does not. (I've been stringing for more than three years and haven't even seen a badminton racquet let alone needed to string one) Tensioning systems appear very much alike with the exception that the Gamma 5003 uses a diabolo to guide the string into the linear string gripper. All told, many similarities that appear identical from the pictures on the Maxline website.

    Now let's compare the accesories. Tools, about the same. Awl, needlenose pliers, allen wrenches (Gamma gives a full set even though you only need 4 of them) wrenches, Eagnas a 10mm, Gamma a 10mm and a 17mm. Gamma also includes a pathfinder awl. String packages are where the gap really broadens. Eagnas includes their free $75 value package (keep in mind this is string *and* the aforementioned tools). Their string is a 660' reel of their house brand Eagnas Perfect Spin. Gamma's free string package came with 6 (!) sets of TNT Fat Core 16g and another 6 sets of their lower line offerings as well as some sample grips and a dampener. Value of this string package is well in excess of $100 at TW prices.

    Now prices:

    Flash 965 $599 plus shipping, and sales tax in CA
    Flash 960 $689 plus shipping, and sales tax in CA
    Gamma 5003 $799 free shipping, sales tax only in VA

    So the difference between the two most similar models is only $110, less the amount you would pay in shipping. And the free Eagnas string is only a bargain if you can (would) use it. The quality of the Gamma string package closes the distance between the two machines completely.

    Now finally, (and I know some are glad we're finally here!) with regard to customer service. Let's go way out on a limb here and assume that this very morning Victor woke up and was reborn to be the epitome of customer service. Tony Roberts is calling *him* for advice. He's everything Gamma already is and more. Just on the dollars and cents Gamma still comes out ahead, at least on the 5003 model, the one I very obviously did my homework on. I really wanted a bargain, and I really wanted to believe that Maxline could provide one. But I also know that where there's smoke there's fire. Service after the sale is very important and I didn't want to find out the hard way what others have shared on these public forums. If Victor wants to compete with Gamma and Alpha and Laserfiber he can't just do it at the hot price point. He needs to clean his act up and treat his customers and potential customers as he would want to be treated were the roles reversed.

    Thanks for reading if you've gotten this far, I'll look forward to your reactions.
     
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  17. barry

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    MikeV
    I am a defender of a lot of things, stringing machines is one of them. I have learned a great deal about stringers this year, and have had an opportunity to try and use many models. Why I post often supporting Eagnas is due to the enormous amount of misinformation posted on their machines. Many people who have never owned or tried the product have reported they are junk. Since I own one, and have had an opportunity to use the 940, feel qualified to report the machine is not a piece of junk as reported. As mentioned, the main difference between the 910 and the 940 is the spring assisted clamps. Looking at the features of both Gamma and Eagnas, I think they are pretty much the same machine. Maybe you see something I am missing, but just compared the two feature list below.
    Gamma 5003 features $799

    FEATURES:
    - Manual spring tension winder (11-89lbs/5-40kg range)
    - Patented rotational string guide
    - Diamond coated string gripper
    - 6 point Quick Mount System
    - NEW slim profile all metal diamond coated string clamps with a unique self locking adjustment knob
    - 360 degree turntable rotation
    - Large tool tray
    - Height adjustable 36" to 48"
    - 5 year limited warranty (call for details)

    Eagans 940 $399

    Specifications:
    • Six-point, suspension mounting system
    • Manual crank spring tensioning system
    • Linear ball bearing string gripper
    • 9-102 pound tension range in both pound and kilogram scales (4-46 kilograms)
    • 360 degree swivel turntable with brake
    • Two diamond-coated, heavy-duty dual-action thumb-adjustable stainless steel swivel clamp (fixed clamps): 2 PN-1012 tennis clamps
    • Handle any diagonal stringing (fan patterned frames)
    Features:
    • Six-point, suspension mounting system provides 10-point maximum supports and eliminates any racquet distortion.
    • Micro-adjustable head and throat mounting posts: could move in and out without any adapter.
    • 4 individually adjustable side-support arms (heavy-duty)
    • Padded K-shaped shoulder supports
    • Padded head and throat mounting posts secure any frame (including deep V-shaped throats), no cosmetic damage to any frame.
    • Manual crank spring tensioning system strings all racquets fast and precisely, very easy to operate. (See operating procedures.)
    • Adjustable-width linear ball bearing string gripper handles any size of string and prevents string damage.
    • Dual-action swivel clamps can move in any direction up and down; and can handle all types of racquets without extra accessories.
    • 2 diamond-coated, thumb-adjustable stainless steel swivel clamps (PN-1012). Stringing has never been as easy and efficient as it is now with the Eagnas thumb-adjustable clamp.
    • All-metal ConeLock swivel clamp bases: provide smooth operation.
    • 360 degree racquet rotation
    • Easy turntable disc brake system allows a secure pull when tying knots.
    • Tension head stop
    • Metal tool tray with pad
    • Convenient reel holder
    • Metal machine base with level-adjustable pads
    • Height adjustable to string in a more relaxed posture, easy to adjust
    • Tools: 1 10mm wrench, 1 Phillips screwdriver, Allen wrenches - 6mm, 5mm, 3mm, 2.5mm.
    • Free stringing tools: 1 DP-507 diagonal cutter, 1 NP-500 needle nose pliers, 1 BS-809 tennis awl, and 1 PN-3092 string mover
    • User's manual
    • Free illustrated stringing tutorial guide: show you how to string racquets step by step
    • String all racquets: tennis, oversized tennis, widebodies, longbodies, fan patterned, squash, racquetball, and badminton.
    • 5 years warranty


    For as the string goes, I don’t use and have not found Gamma string very good. It may cost more, but lot better quality string available. I would rather have the $100 than the so called $100 value.
     
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    How many Eagnas threads are we going to have?

    I am glad they make an affordable machine, but I wouldn't buy one...It is cheaper machine, not a better machine. Price of the machine includes customer service, R & D, marketing, advertising - Dealing with a major company that cares about its customers has it rewards. The professionalism of the employees, the quick respone to questions, the backing of the product with no questions asked - This is not a free service - the company pays for this support...

    If you value after market assistance - then go with a company that will give you that support. If you can fix any problem yourself, save a few bucks...
     
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    And yet, even as Mike V states, the Eagnas website directly compares the Flash series, not the Flex 940, to the Gamma 5003. Eagnas has even gone to great lengths in the Flash series to copy the cosmetics of the 5003, which makes their intentions all the more obvious. How is it that once again, everyone, including Eagnas, is wrong about Eagnas machines, except Barry. Quite remarkable, really.
     
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  20. barry

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    I listed all the features, which was what the discussion was about. Both are the same. Just because 1 machine is compared to another on a web site, does not mean the new flex 940 does not have equal status with the 5003. Maybe you can tell us which features the 5003 have that the 940 does not. Also tell us why the 6004 is $400 more than the 5003. Also would you agree the Alpha Axis is equivalent with the Gamma 5003? And the Alpha Apex matches up with the 6004?
     
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  21. Audiodude

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    For starters, neither the Axis or the 940 uses a heavy cast turntable or spring action clamp bases. The components of the mounting system are much heavier on the 5003, as well. Just as the Eagnas Flash series has heavier components than the Flex series.

    The ATS website details the differences between the 5003 and 6004. The details are there for anyone who cares to look.
     
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  22. barry

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    I looked at the ATS and the gammasport sites and the 5003 is not listed as having spring assisted clamps, neither do the Apex or 940. I think the Apex and the 5003 use the same base plate. The 940 is stainless steel, but either one as long as it does not bend is really irrelevant in stringing. Taken from the ATS site.

    5003
    FEATURES:
    - Manual spring tension winder (11-89lbs/5-40kg range)
    - Patented rotational string guide
    - Diamond coated string gripper
    - 6 point Quick Mount System
    - NEW slim profile all metal diamond coated string clamps with a unique self locking adjustment knob
    - 360 degree turntable rotation
    - Large tool tray
    - Height adjustable 36" to 48"
    - 5 year limited warranty (call for details)

    6004
    FEATURES:
    - Manual Spring Tension Winder (11-89lbs/5-40kg range)
    - Patented rotational string guide
    - Diamond coated string gripper
    - 6 point Suspension Mounting System
    ++++ Super quick Cam-Lock swivel clamps
    -NEW slim profile all metal diamond coated string clamps with a unique self locking adjustment knob
    - 360 degree turntable rotation
    - Large tool tray
    - Height Adjustable 36" to 48"
    - 5 year limited warranty (call for details)

    The 6004 has the super quick Cam-Lock swivel clamps but the 5003 does not. So I think the products are comparable.
     
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  23. Audiodude

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    I've owned a 5003 for two years now. It does have spring assisted clamps of very high quality. Why they dont list it is beyond me. I'm sure mike V will confirm.

    I agree that the differences between the 5003 and 6004 make it difficult to justify the additional $400.00. but, that's just me. Obviously, others disagree.
     
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    If you own one, you know more than I do! I was going by what is on the two web sites, guilty of the "I READ" syndrome. Maybe Gammatech can tell us the differences between the 5003 and the 6004. $400 buys a lot of string.
     
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  25. Mike Cottrill

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    Gamma Tech already did:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=491008#post491008
     
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  26. barry

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    The only difference between the 5003 and 6004 tension head is that the 6004 has a reversible handle and the metal roller guide instead of fiberglass.

    the string clamps are the same.

    the base clamps on the 5003 are the Quick Action and the 6004 are the Switch Action clamps. Both are very reliable.
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    Question is what is the difference between the Quick Action and Switch Action clamps? Must be a heck of a set of base clamps for $400.

    From an old post, which Gaines says the 5003 is similar to the Apex

    Gaines Hillix
    04-10-2004, 04:20 PM
    matchpoints, the Gamma 5003 and the Alpha Blu DC are similar designs, but the Blu DC is probably more comparable to the Gamma 6004. I agree that the Alpha quick action swivel clamps are very good. I have their newest model called the Apex and I'm very happy with it. Send me an email and I can give you a contact at Alpha if you'd like, ghillix@comcast.net .
     
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  27. Mike Cottrill

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    What? not the case at all. Were did Gaines say that?
     
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    I just upgraded from the 5003 to the 6004. The notable differences are
    the switch action clamp bases on the 6004, they truly are as easy as
    flipping a light switch.

    The 6004 also has the suspension mounting system which has one knob on
    each end instead of two for mounting adjustment.

    The 5003 is a great machine but I was willing to spend the extra bucks to
    get the switch action clamps and I'm glad I did!

    Ken
     
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    Go to dogpile.com
    search on Gamma clamps quick action
    Here is the URL

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/archive/index.php/t-20936.html

    I think it is on the old message board! It is under GAMMA 5003 USERS please reply

    Dogpile is a pretty good search engine.
     
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    I was trying to figure out if the 5003 came with spring action clamps like the ones at http://www.eagnas.com/maxgen/sbasesp.html or the other style like these http://www.eagnas.com/maxgen/flsb4.html

    The 6004 looks like a heck of a machine, do you like the new mounting system better?
     
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    Not sure yet if I like the new mounting system better or not? Only have
    6004 about a week. I do like the one adjustment knob feature but this
    suspension mounting system doesn't have the 2 position feature that
    my 5003 has, which was nice for blocked holes, etc.

    Don't know if this will even be a factor, as the newer mounting system
    is more "streamlined".

    The 5003 does not have the newer "switch action, cam lock" clamp bases".
    Between the all metal Gamma clamps and new bases, clamping strings is
    "like butteh" with the 6004!
     
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  32. Mike Cottrill

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    I do not see where he says the Apex is comparable to the 5003.
     
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    And I quote
    "the Gamma 5003 and the Alpha Blu DC are similar designs, but the Blu DC is probably more comparable to the Gamma 6004."

    By default this puts the Apex machine in the 5003 class!
     
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  34. barry

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    Do you plan someday to add a Wise 2086? They are really popular, and an inexpensive way to get a high quality electronic stringer.
     
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    this report was very useful for potential buyers...
     
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  36. Mike Cottrill

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    Barry,
    How?
    I just do not understand you. The Alpha Blu DC is a different machine than the Apex. The mounting system is completely different. How does his statement make the Apex comparable to the 5003?
    Trying to understand, but I’m coming up short.
    Mike
     
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  37. Proud Pusher

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    Barry, I have no plans to add an electronic tensioner, to me the crank is
    as easy as it can get, plus it gives me the benefit of being able to back
    off the tension immediately if something isn't right, i.e. tensioning wrong
    string, clam loose, etc). Not sure if you could do this with electronic?

    Ken
     
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  38. barry

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    Good point on the Electronic tension sounds like you selected a winner! Crank machines are certainly faster than drop weights and some electronic machines and are tried and proven technology.
     
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    FYI, you can easily back off the tension immediately with the Wise head - either hit the tensioner activation button or foot pedal while it's pulling tension and the tension head will immediately stop and return to its untensioned position.
     
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    barry, Audiodude,

    the Gamma 5003 has experienced many upgrades over its rather long model life. We all benefit from this practice, on *this* point I think we all will agree. These upgrades are the result of the model's evolution, the manufacuturer refining the designs and manufacturing processes, and then passing them along to the consumer. We see this in so many other areas, barry you've compared PC's, another comparison might be autombiles. Just comparing a car's "features" radio, climate control system, disc brakes, fuel injection, tinted safety glass, air bags; both the venerable Honda Civic and the flagship BMW have the same features but they're in different classes. Now the Honda Civic in the days of it's inception may not have all of the features it has today, but over the years has been upgraded yet still positioned (pricewise) similarly in the market as it's competition.

    barry, I believe the clamps are just one of those upgrades: it's hard for me to tell if the _currently offered_ Gamma 5003 clamps are different from the Gamma 6004 clamps, but they look very much alike, and it's hard to imagine them any easier to use than they are--they are just that good! The major difference I can see between the two models is in the mountiong system, the 6004 has one knob to operate both spreader bars, whereas the 5003 uses one for the left side and one for the right side. In examining the Eagnas pics you cited, barry, I'd say the clamps are definitely not the cam action (yellow) clamps, but they don't look like the blue ones either. And if the blue clamps need a half turn to lock, then that's definitely not like the Gamma 5003; less than a 1/4 turn, no effort, done deal!

    barry, you're comparing features and looking for the similarities, and you're finding them. But it's the implementation of the features and the refinement of the design that sets many of these machines (so far) apart. We all take turns saying it, and we say it in different ways, so now it's my turn. "You get what you pay for." Low, low prices will get the job done, but spending a little (or more than a little) more will get the job done with greater ease and make the task more enjoyable and less of a chore. I chose to pay a little more than the similar Eagnas machines because through my research I gained the confidence in the Gamma reputation not just for customer service--before and after the sale--but also confidence that the Gamma fit and finish would be what I expected. I didn't want any disappointments and can say unequivocallay that I have none!!

    WRT the comparisons between the Gamma line and the Alpha line, the Gamma 5003 and the Alpha Blu DC are most alike. The Gamma 6004 is a lot like (but not as pretty!) as the Alpha Apex. What a doll, nice mounting system, clamps look a lot like the lower model's ;)
     
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  41. Audiodude

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    I've owned my 5003 for about two years now. I bought it right after they started shipping it with the all metal clamps. I believe it's the same as what's currently shipping. I never really noticed the spring assisted clamp bases before. I guess I just took them for granted.

    I've made similar car analogies before. For the most part, they fell on deaf ears.
     
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