Finally Federer Trying Something New!!!

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by King of Aces, May 26, 2009.

  1. King of Aces

    King of Aces Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2009
    Messages:
    951
    - Roger Federer, dropshots: "I'm happy I got to learn how to use it over the years. I used to not be a fan of the dropshot at all -- I always thought it was a shot you only hit when you're panicking from the baseline, when you're scared maybe to take on the fight, you know. But today I realized that actually you can use it to your advantage against like players like today. It just makes it a little bit more easy."


    .
     
    #1
  2. Andres

    Andres G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2005
    Messages:
    12,540
    Location:
    Mar del Plata, Argentina
    Duhhhh!!!!!!!!
     
    #2
  3. Docalex007

    Docalex007 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2005
    Messages:
    2,660
    Location:
    London/Berlin
    Roger = the new redefined drop shot-loving champion.
     
    #3
  4. veroniquem

    veroniquem Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2008
    Messages:
    31,084
    Location:
    New York
    Wow Federer, 28 years to realize drop shots are useful on clay. I guess he's what one would call a slow learner :)
     
    #4
  5. Docalex007

    Docalex007 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2005
    Messages:
    2,660
    Location:
    London/Berlin
    Yeah tell me about it. Although I think Federer has been really stubborn with his tennis for the past several years. Maybe it's changing now? I think so.
     
    #5
  6. mandy01

    mandy01 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Messages:
    11,518
    Its not about being stubborn.Many players do not like to use the drop shot.How many players have you seen making good amount of use of it? You have to get it just right for it to be a weapon.If you try it out,practice it and in general if it works for you( dosent mean it wins you matches) it can be a weapon and thats what it is for Roger.
    Rest of the game-I agree..He was too passive before esp in the early rounds.He's trying to be more aggressive.Nevertheless he has to take care that he does not overdo it.
     
    #6
  7. jms007

    jms007 Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    832
    Is the drop shot considered to be a bit of a "cheap" tactic on tour? Or is it the degree of difficulty the reason why it isn't used so much?
     
    #7
  8. veroniquem

    veroniquem Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2008
    Messages:
    31,084
    Location:
    New York
    Everything happens. 27 is not that old after all.
     
    #8
  9. dextor

    dextor Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2009
    Messages:
    359
    I think as good players gets older (not old) and the competition gets stiff, they find ways to adapt and work around their abilities lost with age. Federer still has quite a few years left in him.
     
    #9
  10. DarthFed

    DarthFed Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    Messages:
    4,468
    Location:
    Queens, NY
    It is in tennis years, in most cases this is a young mans sport
     
    #10
  11. veroniquem

    veroniquem Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2008
    Messages:
    31,084
    Location:
    New York
    It's true but look at Santoro, Ljubo, Clement, they're still pretty good.
     
    #11
  12. LanceStern

    LanceStern Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,332
    He does it very well.
     
    #12
  13. King of Aces

    King of Aces Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2009
    Messages:
    951
    Roger has TONS of junk. He just does it so well that he makes playing ugly look beautiful.



    .
     
    #13
  14. Mansewerz

    Mansewerz Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2007
    Messages:
    9,164
    Location:
    Caught in No Man's Land
    27 is the new 23 :D
     
    #14
  15. veroniquem

    veroniquem Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2008
    Messages:
    31,084
    Location:
    New York
    Maybe it is. The future will tell!
     
    #15
  16. egn

    egn Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,973
    Fed finally learns that manning up sometimes is about hitting the weak shot. It's about time, you think after playing Djokovic and seeing all his drop shots he would have learned a thing or two.
     
    #16
  17. Cesc Fabregas

    Cesc Fabregas Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2009
    Messages:
    8,318
    Its hard to hit a effective drop when you are getting bullied around the court like Federer is against Nadal on clay so he has to be the agresser.
     
    #17
  18. bizarre_opinion

    bizarre_opinion Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    316
    Location:
    UK
    so i guess he should have known since birth?
     
    #18
  19. sh@de

    sh@de Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2009
    Messages:
    2,979
    HAHAHAHA yeah he is isn't he?
     
    #19
  20. CHOcobo

    CHOcobo Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    1,236
    Location:
    MN
    drop shots are freakin hard sometimes. hard to get it accurate. especially badminton.
     
    #20
  21. veroniquem

    veroniquem Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2008
    Messages:
    31,084
    Location:
    New York
    Between birth and 28, there must have been some opportunities to learn, no?
     
    #21
  22. Mansewerz

    Mansewerz Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2007
    Messages:
    9,164
    Location:
    Caught in No Man's Land
    Since when was this board about badminton :D
     
    #22
  23. subaru3169

    subaru3169 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    May 25, 2009
    Messages:
    515
    Location:
    la, ca
    i'm thinking he perhaps should've tried to utilize this earlier on in his career, especially on clay.. it does make things easier sometimes
     
    #23
  24. Gen

    Gen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    586
    His dropshots are no threat for Nadal and Murray because they are fast enough to retrieve and convert this drop shot into a passing shot. That's what Nadal does all the time. So, dropshot, dear Roger, as much as possible!

    Maybe it's really high time to hire somebody with some brains who'll have better ideas.
     
    #24
  25. All-rounder

    All-rounder Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2008
    Messages:
    6,301
    Location:
    Transitional era
    I see you missed the madrid final ;)
     
    #25
  26. theduh

    theduh Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2009
    Messages:
    768
    Location:
    Middle earth
    Nadal was tired! That's why he was unable to retrieve drop shots effectively.
     
    #26
  27. P_Agony

    P_Agony Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,186
    Fed has used the drop shot before, just not in the same amount. I think the 1st game of the Rome 2006 match against Nadal had quite a sick drop shot from Fed.
     
    #27
  28. slice bh compliment

    slice bh compliment G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,046
    Yes. Roger was looking solid to win that match. ... right up until that 4th set, when he 'trembled'. And Rafa took over.

    He seemed pretty happy with his dropshot tactic after the Del Potro match in Madrid.

    Let me just say, I'm really loving this tournament (Roland Garros 2009). Allez Roger! Vamos Rafa!
     
    #28
  29. rafan

    rafan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,212
    Well thank you Mr Federer - you have confirmed what I always thought about the dropshot. However I am still shocked that a purist like him is using it. However if he is still having back trouble then it could shorten the rallies - as he said, if it is used to an advantage
     
    #29
  30. vtmike

    vtmike Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2008
    Messages:
    2,658
    Location:
    Texas
    So we know you definitely have no chance of being hired... ;)
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2009
    #30
  31. tennis_hand

    tennis_hand Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,427
    being able to use the drop shot well just adds another dimension to his game. i think he is on his way back after beating nadal. that gave him lots of needed confidence.
     
    #31
  32. Kid Carlos

    Kid Carlos Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    May 16, 2006
    Messages:
    623
    #32
  33. King of Aces

    King of Aces Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2009
    Messages:
    951
    actually Yanick use the droppers and then followed to the net to win the FO. He also beat none other than Mats Wilander.....the Nadal of his day.
     
    #33
  34. tennis_hand

    tennis_hand Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,427
    Maybe Federer did call McEnroe? or he called Wilander?
    Both offered him help verbally.
     
    #34
  35. slice bh compliment

    slice bh compliment G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,046
    Good point abotu Yannick, definitely!

    Counterpoint: I remember the RG final of '96....when Stich started off using the dropshot to good effect. Mixed it up well, attacked off it, and things were looking good for the first half-hour.

    Then the plan backfired on him. Kafelnikov started to read the dropshot better, and it also got him to play closer to the baseline. That ended up working for Kafelnikov. And the match slipped away from Stich.

    At the end, it was all Kafelnikov, iirc.

    Anyway, it sure is fun to watch a player who mizes in some creative dropshots. I don't see it as anything less-than-manly tennis. I think a versatile, diverse game that includes dropshots is actuall WAY more manly than the baseline bashing we see too much of.
     
    #35
  36. rafan

    rafan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,212
    I think if your opponent gets used to you using the drop shot then its a bit of a risk
     
    #36
  37. aphex

    aphex Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2008
    Messages:
    6,263
    Location:
    athens, greece
    jeez...
    you've even started talking like him...
    you should seek professional help!
     
    #37
  38. Stinkdyr

    Stinkdyr Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2004
    Messages:
    1,246
    just wait til he learns to volley!
     
    #38

Share This Page