Finding my strokes after 20 years. Stroke video inside

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Greg G, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Hey Cheetah, the picture sequence on this page is different from the previous page, in case you missed it. Carry on :)
     
  2. chico9166

    chico9166 Guest

    Just figured it out, you don't know what supination is...it would as if he were hold cup of soup..Does that help?
     
  3. chico9166

    chico9166 Guest

    The pronation/supination occurs between 9 and 10 when the arm starts moving...If you can't see the change in upper arm and forearm angle than i don't what to say.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 12, 2013
  4. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    Lol. A few posts ago you said everything was mint. We can all see your lost.

    Greg, new sequence looks good. What speed are you swinging at there?
     
  5. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    You posted a new video? Not showing up on my phone. Only pics. Will look in 1 hr
     
  6. chico9166

    chico9166 Guest

    lol. the pronation/supination is supposed to occur between 9 and 10
     
  7. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    New sequence was with loose easy swing. Previous was max acceleration. :p
     
  8. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    Yea that looks better.

    A couple of things:
    maybe this is just because you are shadow swinging but in that last vid you are starting to rotate forward while you are still in the takeback phase. Your torso is opening up while you are still moving your racquet back. Your arm should be already as far back as it's going to go before you start to rotate the torso. A pro's arm is back is usually all the back as far as they are going to take it and it's dropping down to get under the ball before they start to rotate. Look at the last vid of fed i posted for an example.

    Also, your arm is slightly 'disconnected' still. What you want to get is 'racquet lag', not 'arm lag'. when you rotate forward your arm is too far behind your body so you are losing leverage and power their. maybe control too. Pause your vid somewhere in the 6 sec range. You can see your upper arm is behind your body. That upper arm segment should be pretty much right on the side of your body. There should be just about a straight line from your shoulders down to your elbow. That upper arm moves with the body.

    Look at this fed vid. See how his upper arm is moving exactly in line with his torso and shoulders? They are 'connected'. The forearm and racquet lag behind. Not the upper arm. This way lets you use the shoulder and pectoral muscles for power at contact. When your arm lags behind like that you lose that connection with those large muscle groups. Kind of like how chico's imaginary hamster students are taught.

    fed connected arm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAE6AcxAGdA&t=15s

    it's easier to see here with novac:
    djoko connected arm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me1tzm1nnWk

    This is also facilitated by 'leading with the elbow'. The elbow goes before the forearm. You can see fed leading with the elbow although it's harder to see because of his straight arm but it's there. You can see it easier with bent arm fh's like djoko.
    Also when your arm is disconnected it causes you to rotate too much before contact. Look at your vid. Your chest has past facing the net and is starting to face towards the left side fence when you make contact. This is because you are 'disconnected'. Look at fed and djoko. They are facing the net or just before facing the net when they make contact. I guess this is a leftover from your dancing days.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2013
  9. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    The first thing: I was doing a series of shadow swings, kinda like the 'infinite loop' thing n VTA, maybe the timing got messed up there. But I did notice it, and will look out for it on court.

    The upper arm disconnect: ok will keep it aligned. So loose arm, not upper arm. Perhaps that's why even if I shorten the take back, the swing still feels long sometimes.
     
  10. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    yea that sounds good. you post your first video when you started this thread haha.
     
  11. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    LOL. I'll post a before/after video when we actually get to the after part!

    Anyway, today's footage. Similar to the above videos swinging a stick at the gym, I found better results swinging at 75% relaxed, as opposed to trying to rip the cover off the ball :)

    I moved away from the Roddick takeback, and as expected I occasionally slid back to the older swing, although not as bad as before. Not too happy with the takeback though...what do you think Cheetah?

    Worked on keeping the upper arm in line with the shoulder, it's better than before.

    Rear:
    http://youtu.be/buG0hGT1RBE

    http://youtu.be/_ElDBU8KvXc (slow motion)

    Side:

    Seems better when I lift the elbow a bit on the takeback, prevents the presupination issue from occuring.

    http://youtu.be/hXthLocoXgk

    http://youtu.be/YyChdXJlUMA (slow motion)

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2013
  12. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Better set of screencaps:

    I think contact onwards is OK, just the end of the take back/start of forward swing (as usual).

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    The video version:
    http://youtu.be/KRFjaki6vEk

    @Chas Tennis: how do I remove the time labels?!?
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2013
  13. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    nice! much better. i told you that things would be better with a better takeback. that elbow looks perfect now in the forward swing. pretty cool. swing looks much better don't you think?
     
  14. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    The take back ok with you? Not much PTD on it, and sometimes it does get some early supination going. The forward swing to contact is good, feels like I get more power transmitted to the ball, and it does feel more controlled, not like I'm flailing the arm like a wet noodle.

    I think the take back is a bit slow. One thing I liked was the light grip with the hand very low on the racquet. If you look closely, the bottom fingers are open sometimes during the take back.
     
  15. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    yup. looks good.
    time to work on ptd :mad:
     
  16. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    I thought that's what I was doing before I saw the video! :(

    I think the presupination happens when i dont get enough air under the armpit during the takeback and keep the elbow too low/close to the hip. The roddick takeback did help in that regard. Any suggestions on how to work on it? The VTA drills in the forehand SSC video come to mind...
     
  17. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    i like how vta explains it too when he says "and from here just drop the arm'.

    hmm... idk. i've already given you a million suggestions haha. how about hitting like 50 balls with no takeback at all. just start by putting the racquet in ptd and swing from there to get the feel of how it feels to swing from that position?
     
  18. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Will try that. It's so ornery! Everything else I can do/pickup fairly quickly, but this is soooooooooooo deeply ingrained. I blame Chris Evert! :p

    Does Dimitrov have a SW grip on the forehand? This video looks ok (could not find a video with this view with him wearing a shirt though).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmzVpETgzao
     
  19. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    i guess it's a sw. looks a little more western than fed's.
     
  20. Relinquis

    Relinquis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,335
    Location:
    On the courts; hard & clay ...
    Interesting to see the progression since the first post... How do you opponents find your shots? can they feel a difference?

    one question, is contact point far enough in front?!
     
  21. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    Good question. I'd like to know that too regarding opponents.

    I also think contact should me more out in front.
     
  22. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Well before I changed the technique, I felt the forehand was serviceable. I could rally with it, but it was not an outright weapon, in terms of being able to dictate the point with it. Margin for error was relatively low, either hitting the tape or sailing long, so i would be a bit conservative with the pace. I couldnt hit out with it. My backhand was the weapon that would end points outright. A short ball to the forehand would usually be taken as an approach shot.

    With the new forehand, the situation is quite different. I have a different arc to the ball, with much more margin for error. I am much more offensive with it, and on days when I'm really on, I can really dictate from the center of the court. I can hit with more controlled pace, and the added spin has given me the ability to hit wider angles and open up the court. And I can sometimes end the point outright with a big forehand, which was truly a rarity for me.

    Right now my only issue with it is in doubles...I have lost some accuracy in the vertical plane... I can't hit it consistently low over the net and occasionally hit at a trajectory like singles. Suspect it's an inconsistent takeback, reverting to old form under pressure. I know it's just a matter of practice, so I know it will come when I finally nail the form down.

    It's still new to me, so on a bad day it can still break down, but usually I put it down to fitness, lazy footwork, or a bad day mentally. Do I feel it was worth the (still ongoing) process? Definitely!
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2013
  23. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Oh yes opponents have noticed the difference in the quality of shot in the forehand. I see the arc/spin/heaviness of the ball gives them more difficulty compared to a flattish low spin forehand that arrives at their hitting zone.

    However- one of my regular hitting partners did mention that the forehand can get too spinny at times, and lack the penetration that my backhand does.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2013
  24. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    Greg,

    I meant to ask you... did you ever try out the TB/N.Vy hybrid?
    If not you should. I used to use all tourbite myself and then switched to this setup. It's really really nice. Feels great. More feel and more spin. It lasts pretty well too.
     
  25. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Am just about to get it strung with the hybrid setup. TB 17 with N.Vy 16 crosses. Will try 46/49 tension on one, then adjust from there. Coming down from my usual 52/50 full bed tour bite or black widow.

    Hope it works well, because for full bed, am starting to really like Black Widow over TB. Almost the same amount of spin but much easier on the arm.

    Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2013
  26. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    big change there with both new strings and lower tensions. it will probably feel very different. I can't play with tb at 46. too much trampoline effect for me.
    good luck.
     
  27. Relinquis

    Relinquis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,335
    Location:
    On the courts; hard & clay ...
    maybe you should lay off the poly until your elbow heals...
     
  28. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Elbow is almost fully healed, I just keep the brace on to be absolutely safe. Just gets sore after play, but 95% better than where it was. Hopefully the switch to hybrid will be noticeably different.

    Cheetah- ok will string the other stick at usual tension- 52/54, cross higher since its synthetic gut. So I can compare apples to apples. Are you stringing the hybrid at a single tension?
     
  29. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    i have only tried the hybrid the last 2 stringings. both at 52/52. i know some people like to have the tensions different but I've never tried it. I will next time though. that hybrid really feels nice though. soft and more spin than tb alone.
     
  30. rkelley

    rkelley Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2010
    Messages:
    2,384
    As someone on the receiving end of Cheetah's ball it feels like he has about another 10% pace too since he's switched strings. There comin' pretty hard.

    I use Babolat Xcel (crosses) and Luxilon Rough (mains). I really like it over full poly, but I destroy the Xcel after about 4-6 hours of hard hitting.
     
  31. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Ok you guys got me excited, so I dropped a pair off at the stringer's today. TB 17 mains with N.Vy 16 crosses (natural) @52 all around. They had N.Vy 17 only in white which would totally clash lol.

    Going back to technique- there's a new blog entry at the tennisspeed site comparing the Fed and Djokovic forehands, discussing the role of the shoulder, and straight vs bent elbows. Quite a read, and a real mouthful to digest.
     
  32. NLBwell

    NLBwell Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,117
    Greg G
    I haven't read most of the previous 24 pages, but I hope you know that your forehand swing is all arm and 2/3 of your body is working against you - probably because you try to hit open stance when you are already in position to step into the ball and then jump out of position.
    Here are your pictures - the same thing happens in the video:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps2718d449.jpg
    Look where your legs, hips, and abs are in the second picture. You have already rotated away from the ball. You are just standing on your back foot. See in pictures 3 and 4 how you have to reach to get to the ball because you have stepped away from the ideal contact point. You have opened your hips and chest when you stepped away from the ball. You can see from picture 2 to 6 that there is almost no movement of the legs, hips, and abs and you are still just standing on your back foot. There is no weight transfer and no rotational movement.
    If you want to gain some energy from any part of your body below the shoulders you must either 1) step into the ball as you are lined up to do - which is generally what most pros would do in that situation or 2) as you step away from the ball, keep your chest and hips parallel to the flight of the ball until the racket is starting to move forward and use the stored rotational energy (like winding up a top) to rotate your upper body during the stroke and pull the chest, shoulders, and arm around. (Move your left foot to the spot in picture 2 while keeping the rest of your body in the position in picture 1 - you should feel the rotational stretch through your legs, hips, and core.

    It would be easier, better, and more efficient to just step into the ball and swing (in whatever way you please) instead of trying to make it a more difficult open-stance shot. Open stance allows you to get to the ball 1/2 step sooner and recover back another 1/2 step sooner. Right now, you are moving the extra 1/2 step all the way to the ball and then jumping away from the ball. A good player should know how and when to hit open stance and more closed stance.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2013
  33. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    NLBwell,

    Thanks for posting. I'm trying to wrap my head around it now. I know I have issues moving to the right that I haven't addressed yet.

    Fixing the image link to facilitate discussion:

    [​IMG]

    Older set, from the back:
    [​IMG]

    The issue is that my last step is a step away from the ball with mt left foot, right? Meaning I was too close, and the last step should be with the right...? These balls were fed straight to me, so I needed to move out of the way for some, but I believe there is something to your suggestion. Again, lemme think about it first. Thanks again!

    Greg
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2013
  34. NLBwell

    NLBwell Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,117
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3-EZCPn9yc

    For the open stance forehand, look at the initial starting point in the video listed above. If you line up perpendicular to the net like you are about to hit the ball - then drop your front foot to where a line between it and your back foot is parallel to the net and keep your hips and above in the same position, you will feel "wound up" - a rotational stretch from legs to shoulder. Then you release the stored energy into body rotation.

    In the case where the ball is fed right into your strikezone, just go ahead and hit it in your neutral stance. You don't need to add complexity to try and get an open stance.
     
  35. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    OK. Not a good day. Wet and rainy, the court I got was very damp and had a leak, yeah that kind of day.

    Warming up seemed OK, was trying out the new strings. Let's talk about that first. Started with my usual Black Widow 17 @ 52/50. Nice easy spin, good pocketing, good depth. Followed with TB 17 full bed @52/50. More spin, less pocketing. Felt more crisp, but balls fell short. Then switched to the hybrid TB 17/ Babolat N.Vy 16 @ 52/52. Interesting, it did seem to have the same spin as TB full bed, without the harshness, and good depth. But it was harsher than the full bed of Black Widow. For now I'm not convinced I would prefer it over the BW, which I used in the practice set, because my arm started complaining. Maybe it'll loosen up after a few more days, but I definitely want to string it looser next time (the hybrid). BW is nice, but a bit underpowered...maybe I should try that in a hybrid.

    Anyway, here's the warmup. I noticed that I got a better PTD but the result was I got a lower trajectory...and I mean lower! Was hitting the tape and occasionally even the boottom of the net! I think the contact point needs to be further forward.

    http://youtu.be/8ks4qfvco6Y

    Played a set where I couldn't hit a forehand to save my life...felt totally discombobulated trying to find my groove on the forehand wing. Even the winners don't look good on video. The only bright spot was I saw a glimpse of my first serve coming back, had a few good service games with an ace, some unreturnables, and some sitter returns, and no sitting duck second serves! So it wasn't a total loss...still it was 6-2 to I guy I had already started beating...I wasn't taking control of the points today. :mad:

    http://youtu.be/B1MLkp7ntLQ

    Afterwards, I still had the hit the net syndrome on the forehand...ball was spinny with less pace than I expected :confused: Out of mixed curiosity/frustration, I tried to hit one with an Eastern grip and wow it sailed up into the wall :)

    http://youtu.be/jtVbbL-cyGo

    Hopefully it's just one of those days...
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2013
  36. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    What a difference a day makes! Was hitting much better today. More relaxed swing and cleaner hitting. Played a set...hard fought loss to the same guy 6-4, but much closer. Just a few brain farts killed some break points for me, but he did say I was striking the ball really well today. Must be the birthday luck ;)

    http://youtu.be/aFXtb5tayi4
     
  37. TomT

    TomT Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,954
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Greg G, I'm really enjoying working my way through this thread. Very instructional. You're clearly a serious student of the game willing to do the work necessary to improve.

    I really like the trajectory of your forehand shots from the back view. Very nice. Mine, on the other hand, are all over the frickin' place. Hopefully I will learn something from this thread.

    Interesting also reading about you having to deal with the various injuries ... which I've had my share of also.

    Looking real good. Best wishes for continued improvement.
     
  38. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    nice. looks good.
     
  39. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Thanks Tom! I do enjoy the process of learning and breaking down my old forehand. The videos do help me make more efficient use of my limited practice time. I find the battle is more of keeping it simple and not letting old habits come to the surface. Sometimes, I catch glimpses of the forehand I'm striving for, like today. The good thing is, these glimpses are coming a bit more frequently now.

    Working hard at the gym too, to improve the stamina/agility. It really all breaks down when I can't set up early/in time.

    Hey Cheetah! Last vid OK? NLBWell?

    EDIT: Oops I saw you posted already :)

    My forearm feels like it's on fire after the string demos! Just had to hit today because of the bad taste in the mouth I had from yesterday's poor show on court. Yeesh. Few days rest in order.

    Oh! I did apply the upper arm principle to the serve, making sure to pull the butt of the racquet to contact...and I found my slice slider out wide! Hit 2 aces and got a few popup returns!
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2013
  40. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2013
  41. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    how come you get ball boys?
     
  42. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    One of the few perks here in the Philippines. Was funny when I stayed in Hawaii in 2001. First time out on court I was just standing there, and my partner said WTF are you doing, pick up the balls! :)

    Wait, that's all you got from that video? :mad:
     
  43. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    lol. nice running fh winner
     
  44. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Did you see the point where he went lefty to hit this crazy angle passing shot on the dead run? Nuts... :mad:
     
  45. TomT

    TomT Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,954
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    I enjoyed watching this Greg. Quite a bit better than my usual standard play. Good rallies, movement and shot placement. You both hit some really nice shots, but it did look like you hit more and were capable of dictating play. You hit some really nice serves also. Very nice service motion. My tentative and totally unqualified opinion is that, minus the "bonehead shots" you should be playing at a pretty darned high NTRP level. Much higher than I'll ever get to anyway. What, by the way, is your NTRP level?
     
  46. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Thanks Tom! I honestly have no idea. The only time I played over there (USTA Hawaii league team tennis), I was rated 3.5. That was back in 2001, the only time in the 20 year hiatus from tennis that I played semi regularly.

    The serve coming back is helping quite a bit! I'm not defensive at the start of the point, as I was in earlier videos I posted. The guy I play is a 'trainer' here, kinda like a professional hitting partner I guess. His strokes look simple but he is like a wall, and can run all day (because he does).
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2013
  47. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    After 2 weeks of rest, my forearm feels much better. Back with Black Widow full bed... I may try this in a hybrid soon, or perhaps try some nat gut.Rested the arm, but killed the body and legs at the gym using some of the exercises here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfvJz0Ocr4A

    Anyway, I decided it was time to incorporate movement and hitting patterns into my routine. I did a 4 ball pattern, with 3 inside out rally balls, followed by an inside in kill shot.

    http://youtu.be/Gi-675sw11A

    This is the view from the back. Later I switched to alternating inside out and inside in rally balls, with an inside in kill shot. I was in the middle court, so I didn't practice inside out kill shots (so I didn't spray balls into the adjacent courts).

    http://youtu.be/qcnK-PVKn_Q

    After 30 minutes of this, I switched it to a semi live ball drill. I was pretty ***ged out at this point...

    http://youtu.be/rooKI3spsgc

    Anyway, how's my movement and technique coming along?
     
  48. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    main issue now is you are arming it. not hitting through it. no weight transfer into the ball. contact point is too late and you're legs are not loaded and not involved in the shot. You kind of do this little hop skip thing while you hit so the whole lower half of the kinetic chain is gone so you're hitting with upper body/arm only. seems a little better on inside in shots. shots are good but wimpy and not enough spin because you're not hitting through it so maybe the strings don't have enough dwell time. there's no deep pop sound. no weight.

    look how far out in front fed hits... and this is an inside out shot where he hits less out in front than an up the middle or cc shot.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiW_j-nPEZk&hd=1&t=1m04s

    btw here is a shot i took of fed at indian wells.
    [​IMG]
     
  49. Greg G

    Greg G Professional

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,006
    Yeah I knew that was coming :) That's one of the reasons i wanted to start adding movement into the drills. I'm getting there just in time again, not early enough to set up. So I need to get there fast enough to be able feel the weight loaded on the right leg...

    Oh and a lot of the balls in my basket are getting soft so they sound bad. <-- Lame excuse :)

    Anything to work on foot pattern wise? Would a crossover step get me there (and back) faster?

    Awesome shot. Must go to IW someday. Were they selling the orange Nike wristbands?
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2013
  50. Cheetah

    Cheetah Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    San Diego
    Not sure about the foot patterns. I'd have to see a live ball vid but crossover is generally the way to go. much quicker.

    I don't know if they were selling those or not. We didn't go into any shops because we were mesmerized by the tennis allllll day. We only stopped watching for 10 mins just to grab a slice of pizza.

    Ian from essentialtennis.com was there filming. He's going to have some excellent footage.
     

Share This Page