first person to not mind losing to a slam winner?

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  1. devila

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    who was the first person to not mind losing to a slam winner?

    here's james blake in the us open. youtube
     
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    Rafaelito in this Ozie Open final. He seemed pretty content after the match was over.

    He's probably accepting that from now on he will lose most of the big matches he plays to the Novak.
     
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    Probably the guy who got crushed the first round of the tournament following the first Wimbledon.
     
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    Rafa not my favorite player but i think he has always been a gracious loser .
     
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    1973, vijay amritraj lost the WO QF to Jan Kodes and still brags about it.
     
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    You have to be absolutely blind to think that Rafa is a good loser. He is easily one of the worst.
     
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    LOL!! He always gives credit to the opponent. At least switch to diet haterade from now on, damn.
     
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    +1
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    Is that what his angry scowl is whenever an opponent hits a winner? Is that his way of giving credit?

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    ^^Im sorry, how does that make him a bad loser? EVERY tennis player scows during matches. Rafa usually does that when he hits an sitter UE.
     
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    What Michael said. Most - if not every - player does it.

    What do you think he should do?.
     
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    Not this every time he loses a big rally:
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    Because it might seem arrogant that he looks like he can't believe he lost a point.
     
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    Seriously. It is probably one of those criticisms that apply only to Nadal by his haters. Yeah, WTF is Nadal supposed to do if his opponent hits a winner on him? Put on a huge toothy smile? Ridiculous.


    Good point. How does that make Nadal a bad loser? Nadal-haters/Bandwagon-Djokovic fans love to say that Novak is a good loser based on how he acts AFTER the match. Funny how they never criticize Djokovic for similar issues. Have they seen Djokovic's reactions to people slamming winners on him? He immediately throws his arms up and starts whining to his box like a baby.
     
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    Can I get an amen? Should Rafa send a hallmark card? EVERY PLAYER does that and Novak is one of the WORST. Do I need to post a video of the way he was acting at the FO last year or the USO when the crowd was cheering for Federer? Unbelievable people on here.
     
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    Or... they make him look like he cares about winning. Crazy, I know. Especially in a competitive sport.

    That is what it is. As you say, it's ridiculous. Rafa is arrogant/a bad loser because he grimaces sometimes when he loses a point, but players throwing/breaking rackets, talking about lucky shots, saying they had the match under control when they were losing... are not.
     
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    All I am saying is that no need to look like this after losing every long point:

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    If Nadal wants to express himself, he has every right to do so. What's with this anti-Nadal agenda? Why don't you have any gripes against Djokovic and Murray for whining after every point?

    Did you see what Djokovic did after the longest rally of the match? He threw his ass on the ground and stared at the stars from the floor of Rod Laver Arena for a while. :lol:
     
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    It is better to react like that then keep it in. If he was arrogant.....Nadal would smirk when a player wins the point.....like 2008 AO.....but that was mostly due to be overwhelmed by the situation. He felt he had no control over.

    Rather make that face so you feel you are the one who did the mistake....and it helps to be on top of the next point in order to not repeat that mistake.

    Applauding the opponent.....may come in the way of trying to feel dominant of the court. Tennis players want to control all aspects of the situation but they know that they can't....so they make those faces.

    Federer does it as well but far less than others. Every tennis player does it....and if you do it as well. Then think about why.....and you will understand.
     
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    Just take it like a man and play the next point, making faces when someone hits a good shot on you is what you expect from kids, not a grown man that
    is supposed to be a professional athlete.

    You ever see Ivan Lendl play? Old Skool roll in,make it happen and roll out, no silly faces or celebrations. Thats how a man is supposed to do it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MFsPbYBLDE&feature=related
     
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    djoker is arrogant because he paid for his own coaching and
    wins more 5 setters than federer.
    nadal's a cheater because he'll win 6 more slams with gracious
    losers as his opponents.
     
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    Lol. I loved watching replays of Sampras vs Lendl at USO 1990. Lendl was whining like a baby at all the line-painting aces that Sampras was whipping his ass with. In that case the whole "Old skool" thing went right out the window .

    There is a video on youtube of Rod Laver getting pissed off to the point that he took a ball out of his pocket and hit it into the stands. It was just frustration. People still seem him as a classy champion.

    It should be the same for Nadal but, sadly, it isn't. On this forum, Nadal's oncourt behavior is apparently empirical evidence that he is a staunch holocaust denier and wants to give everyone on this planet AIDS.
     
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    Well, thank God not everyone plays the same way nor looks the same way when playing. If he feels frustrated when he loses a point he has a right to express it if he feels like it. Like pretty much every other player does, BTW. If you or anyone else does not like it... though luck. But don't extrapolate things from it that just aren't there.
     
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    You think this way because you are a girl, that has a crush on Nadal. For men, if you want respect you treat someone with respect, acting like a fool
    on court is not a good way to go about it. If I played someone that acted like Nadal, at a local court that person would learn respect real fast, probably before we even started the warm up.
     
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    I guess it would be hard for some people that never played any competitive sports to relate, most people know the way Nadal and a few other pros act on court would rub them the wrong way immediately, if you don't see it, it is probably because you never played at a competitive level before.
     
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    You sound like a thug with a thirst for violence.

    Last year when there were threads about that one asian fellow who ruined the match point of the Verdasco-Raonic, you posted a particularly disturbing post about how you would cause that man intense physical harm just for interrupting the match point of a tennis match.

    Here it is.


    I think it is better if people did not relate with you.
     
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    I can't recall what I said, but I remember the match, and think I would definitely have gotten up in his face and put a scare into him so he wouldn't pull some crap like that ever again. Hurt him in reality probably not, only if he tried to hurt me, or someone else, But it wouldn't have been a pretty scene I am sure. Someone has to stand up to idiots like that, otherwise they just go on being an idiot, I don't mind being that guy, I am not afraid to stand up for what i feel is right, and that was far from right.
     
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    What I said there was out of anger very shortly after the match and watching the replay over quite a few times didn't help, You took my quote out of context, if you go back and read the thread you will see I wasn't the only one that said they would have beat that man. Sometimes what people say is a reflection of what they are feeling about some other situation in their lives at the moment, a year ago at this time I was going through cancer treatment, I had a lot of pent up emotion inside. I am a type A personality but not what you think. Believe it or not most of my friends and family think I am too nice of a guy. I am a lot like Soderling that is why he is my favorite player, mean on the court, nice guy off.

    But you can believe what you wish, you don't have to relate with me. If I was such a horrible thug you think I would have taken the time to give you some advice on your guitar when you posted a question, don't take everything you read in pro player section so seriously especially from me, look at my other posts that aren't in this section of the forum.
     
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    Okay, I understand. I know you are a smart guy who knows plenty about tennis and other sports. I have no idea what you are like in real life. That is why I only said you only "sound like a violent thug". Now that you have clarified that issue, it's not a big deal. I'm sure you are a nice guy. Sorry to hear that you were suffering from cancer, I hope you are better and healthy now
     
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    That's just a sexist remark to make.

    And clearly the way you see these thing is different to how pro tennis players see them. They obviously don't have a problem with the way Nadals act on court, since he's a well liked person on the tour.
     
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    It is a sexist remark to say this? :confused: these are things you have said yourself. You said something about how you have a crush on Nadal and your sister on Federer, or did I misread that?



    I hope you get to go to some tournaments and see all the players not just Nadal play someday, you will be surprised at what is said between players and things you miss watching on TV. Nadal isn't as nice as you think. A nice guy is someone like Marcos Baghdatis or Sam Querry.
     
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    It's sexist to say that that is why I think there's nothing wrong with an expression he might do while playing, or basically to use such an argument to discredit a woman's opinion.

    Sorry, but I'm not going to take your word for it.

    Everyone can see that Rafa is close with several players, who obviously do have a good opinion of him (Ferrer, Marc López, Feliciano López, Murray, Moya, Monaco, Nalbandian, even Federer and Djokovic). Also see the way players like Fish or Hass have talked about him. There's also Verdasco, Gasquet, Tsonga, Monfils...

    You say other players don't like him?, say who then.
     
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    Blake had so many great matches in terms of entertainment value, shame he didn't close that one out as he would have been the favourite against Ginepri. Even more recently that Del Potro Aussie Open match was one of the best of the last few years, would've been great if he had gotten that Olympic medal to really mark his career but fantastic player to watch either way.
     
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    Dude you are probably a nice guy but your posts are often filled with anger and you make it very hard for people to like you.
     
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    Amen, very hard.
     
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    He's made too many excuses for anyone to seriously believe he's 'gracious'. Nevertheless, it doesn't even matter. He's a top player for a reason.
     
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  37. Crisstti

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    Not really.
     
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    Yes, really.
     
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    You (more than) implied everyone agrees with you. Which is of course not the case. That's all I'm saying...
     
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    LOL..Even i agree what crisstti has to say..I enjoy watching nadal doing fist pumps and jumping with joy..everyone has their own way of doing things.I have never seen you point out players like JMAC for their disgraceful behaviour.Such a DOUBLE STANDARD,no?
    Somehow it seems you have a bit of crush on nadal..
     
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    I used the word 'seriously' which of course, doesn't apply to Nadal fans since they will believe everything Nadal says. :wink:
     
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    REPORTED..
     
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    So let me get this straight. On your local ghetto courts, if some kid dares to look disappointed that he lost a point, you (and/or your crew?) would get up in his face and 'teach him some respect'?

    What if someone smashed a racquet like Safin or Baghdatis? Would you (and/or your crew) give them a beatdown with said racquet? Or is racquet smashing okay for them because they 'play the game the right way'?

    How does that square with your "mean guy on the court" attitude? You're allowed to be an intimidating, racquet smashing thug when playing, but if your opponent deigns to look slightly sad he lost a point, it's no holds barred time? Or does the 'respect' clause only apply to 'dirtballing pushers'?
     
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    I don't like the commentary between nadal and federer fans usually, but this line was just funny to me. :)
     
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    WTF are you going on about? You make up a bunch of silly scenarios and attach me to them. I am flattered you fantasize about me but perhaps you should focus on yourself instead. I read the story you posted about your encounter with a superior defensive player and how you quit and stormed off the court it was quite amusing. :) How are you liking your poll results? http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=411261


     
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    Yes, and I was totally being 100% serious with that thread, not satirizing the many similar, but less provocative threads that predominate that section.

    And please, tell me, what exactly is it that Nadal does that demonstrates 'disrespect' such that you would have to 'show him a thing or two' before the warm-up?
     
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