Fischer Vacuum Pro - Timeline?

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  1. El Zed

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    Greetings, everyone:

    Recently acquired two of the aforementioned racquets, and would appreciate some guidance as to the chronology and playability of these frames. Specifically, one fades from a blue/black to a throat area that is predominantly gold with purple/lilac writing "Vacuum MidSize Pro." The Other has more predominant black markings in the hoop, with a throat area that is predominantly gold/black with "Pro Vacuum MS" written in largely white font enclosed with a black square-type design.

    So, which one came first? Which is the "Stich" racquet, and is one more sought after (from a collector's or playability perspective) than the other.

    Appreciate your guidance, as I want to try this racquet out ASAP!

    Thanks again, all!
     
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    IIRC the Purple/Gold/Blue is the Stich racket and is more sought after. However, any Vacuum Pro is wanted.
     
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  3. classic tennis

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    Metallic light blue, white g/strip 1986, the rest followed, the made in Austria ones using real Vacuum technic are collectable the made in China ones are not.
     
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  4. made_in_austria

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    yes, the metallic light blue or cyan or acquamarine Vacuum Pro ist the first. i saw pics and vids from Michael Stich, Anders Jarryd(not Pernfors) and Horst Skoff using this racquet. seems to be underrated, as nobody talks about this racquet..
     
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  5. El Zed

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    Thank you, everyone for your help.

    Tried the pair and there is indeed something intoxicating about the frame. This may sound odd, but I have never tried something that swings as smoothely. Felt more modern than the MG Radical, and more toned down than the the old Prestige 600. While I play a better overall all-court game with the stick, perhaps I have it strung too tightly (49/50 with the Wilson Champion hybrid) as it feels rather under powered in a visceral sense. Perhaps its just too much stick for me, and does have the built in game improvement attributes of the P600 or Prestige Pro 600. Rather conflicted....
     
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  6. retrowagen

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    All of the iterations of this racquet are pretty good to play tennis with, but one has to move his or her arms around a bit to make the ball go to the other side of the court. :)

    More identification notes:

    The blue model with the white grommet set was the first, c. 1986-8 if I recall.
    The "fishnet" with "Made in Austria" clearly marked was next
    The "fishnet" with "Fischer Austria" on the throat (and a black, oval-shaped sticker) was the later Chinese-made model, 1993 or so on.

    IIRC, in 1991, Stich's Wimbledon win was with one with the same smoky metallic mottled paintjob as the 1991 Vacuum Twin Tec Pro version; but I can't remember if that was a special paintjob for Stich or if it was a production graphic for 1991 Vacuum Pro Mids. :confused:
     
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  7. classic tennis

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    It was "In Line" apprx 3800 were imported in the US.
     
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  8. El Zed

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    Thanks kindly for your help. The two that I have - the pink/purple/blue/gold and the blue/purple/gold both are the MIA versions. The "pink" frame just has a more original, almost amateur (in a small-comoany positive sense) than the early 90s look of the other.

    Trying to sell both as I just can't get passed the lack of power - while my BHs are almost laser-like in trajectory the FH just doesn't seem to ever have much bite, I mean my Prestige 600 is almost like a pure drive in comparison. Would going to full gut at the high 30s or low 40s rectify? Quite conflicted on whether to sell since these are rather clean MIAs, but fear they just aren't right for me. Perserverence recommended?

    Thanks, all.
     
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    Should mention that the prestige, and just about every other racquet, feels absolutely archaic compared to the Vacuum Pro 90....
     
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  10. retrowagen

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    Ah, thank you. I had a very foggy recollection that it was "production," but indeed, it's very Very VERY rare to see now. After ten years of consistent auction monitoring, I've yet to see a 1991 Vacuum Pro 90 come up for sale.

    BTW, I really enjoy the clear information you bring to the forum! I have concluded that you work, or have worked within the industry. It's really nice to have an insight from within presented to this board. Especially when its in regards to an interesting (but very difficult to follow) company such as Fischer.
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    What about the earlier Vacuum models such as the SC, PRO, PRO Plus, Open etc.....?
     
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  12. retrowagen

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    I believe the first use of "Vacuum" technology by Fischer (at least that they made mention of in their advertising, for tennis - ski might be another matter) was in 1986. That was with the introduction of the Superform Open model, their new open-throat midsize. They also had a new open-throat oversize that year. Head shapes were that roughly 5-sided shape reminiscent of the older Superform.

    I think they had other moulds in the works, the first models of which came out in 1987 or 1988.
     
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  13. Hannah19

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    You are referring to the Kingsize models? They do not have the Vacuum technlogy stated on the frames. It may well be made using this technology but no evidence of that on the racket, I believe.
    I have several Kingsize and later Superform models, I will have a close look and check the print on the frames.
    I do have several Vacuum SC, Pro, Pro Plus , Plus Pro and Open models that do have the Vacuum written on the frames.
     
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  14. classic tennis

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    Thanks Retro, it's nice to hear that, the travel triangle between manufacturing (Asia,Europe,US,etc) has been going for over 25 years and still on the treadmill, tennis biz is in a rutt now days, too many elliptical shapes and similar models all from the same factories, it's all just marketing, it's sad but that's what the punters seem to want, cheaper and cheaper product.
     
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  15. retrowagen

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    Yes, I concur with you on all the above.

    Having began playing tennis in the early 80's as a teenager, playing ITF juniors, US college tennis, some tournaments in the early 90's, and then working in the engineering field since the early 90's (because tennis didn't pay the bills too well), I'm glad I experienced the equipment of the 1980's and early 1990's firsthand. Some of it was brilliant gear, some of it not so brilliant; some of the designs extremely creative and clever, some whimsical but flawed. There were small family-owned businesses making the switch from ancient craftsmanship arts to space-aged technology; there were corporate giants trying to cash in on the "Tennis Boom" on several continents as well. But by and large, most of the composite racquets that could be had between 1983 and 1996 were worlds better than the best of today's gear, in quality, longeviety, and user-friendliness, and promoted styles of play now basically extinct.
     
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  16. classic tennis

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    We are singing from the same page here, once upon a time we would have a week at a resort somewhere in the World with a couple of our players and test new bats, discuss it over too many beers with our team after 6-12 months in development, now it's just make it for x , paint it y ,sell it for z and change it in nine months to a new story.

    There is some light on the horizon, but we will see how the Euro goes. ;-)
     
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    for you all...

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  18. Goly

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    Here are my Vacuum Pros; it's quite rare painting, I haven't seen any other on board. They are from guy who is working with Jan Gunnarsson in radio or TV(I don't remember it's TV or radio).

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    Another pictures:

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    The last ones:

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    Hope you enjoy it!
     
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  21. Hannah19

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    I've got one of those in mint condition together with some nice n.o.s. SC, Pro Plus and Plus Pro models.
     
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    goly, those are sick ones. wish to have one..
     
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  24. Goly

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    They are sick ones :), and the one I'm using is the best feeling racquet I have ever played(nCode 90 is very close to it but Fischer has got unique feeling). I wish to have more than two but no one has got good old Vacuum Pro :(
     
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  25. Hannah19

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    Please, what now.......I do have them in mint condition, so what......Can't I be enthousiastic about my 600+ racket collection?
    And yes, I do sell some every now and then via the Bay and I also have plenty of members amongst my clients,.......lighten up, its not that I take away some of your business. I also bought a nice Bosworth Fox ATP from your Vintage racket collection. Sheesh.....!!
     
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    send me a private message with your mail adress..
     
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  28. vsbabolat

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    I wish Fischer was still in the tennis business!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  29. Hannah19

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    Where's Tiffany if you need her.......
     
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  30. Slitch

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    Can you guys help me identify a fischer frame? I just bought two older vacuum SC's for 10 euro's (about 8 dollars). I won't be getting them until sunday so I can't take pictures. These are some pics I found on the internet:

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    Can anyone tell me a bit more about this frame? From what i've read it's the pre-fischnet version of stich, is that right?
     
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  31. Hannah19

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    Slitch, Dit is de SC (Silicon Carbide) versie van 1 van de vele Vacuum modellen uit de jaren 80. Eigenlijk 1 van de eerste Ceramic rackets uit die tijd.
    Waar woon je? Ik heb 600+ rackets in mijn collectie die hangen in de buurt van Alphen a/d Rijn. Je bent welkom om ze eens te komen bekijken.
    mvg, Hans Eggink
     
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    Bedankt voor de info en je aanbod. Ik woon helaas helemaal in het zuiden van het land dus dat is nogal ver rijden.
    Ik heb begrepen dat je ook fischer spaart. Welke oude fischer modellen vind je het fijnste om mee te spelen? Ik ben zelf meer een fan van mid plus fischer. Welke zou je aanraden?
     
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  33. mctennis

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    Last two posters, thanks for the great info.
     
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  34. classic tennis

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    Hallo daar, wat Fischer modellen hebt u in uw collectie in nieuwe ongebruikte toestand?
     
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    Let's turn back to English for this is an international forum and McTennis is right commenting on our posts in Dutch.

    To come back to your question, Classic Tennis, I'm still in the process of moving my entire racket collection to our new home in Zevenhoven. Many of my Fischer rackets in n.o.s. condition have already changed hands. Contact me on mozart19(at)ziggo.nl and pick a date for you to come and have a look at my collection.
     
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    What about these questions? Is the Vacuum SC the pre-fishnet version of Stich? Any other ATP player from '80s used this Fischer?
    It would be nice to know a little bit more about this racket from Fischer...
    Thank you guys!
    Ettore
     
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    I still can't get over the fact that i sold all my Fischer sticks last year.

    Ah well, at least they went to a good home.
     
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    I know what you're talking about...
    I still can't get over the fact that I lost one NOS Vacuum Pro 90 Made in Austria (the fish-net version used by Stich), sold for only 25euros (!!!!!!) because... I replied to an ad a single day late...
    Ettore
     
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    played with the first generation cyan model.

    probably my favorite racquet of all time.
     
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    darn... I just been reminded I got a pair of the cyan (14x19) which I need to get them strung.
    owe someone here a write up.
    will get those done soon since I started to play at least once a week now
     
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    are these your regular racquets that you always play with?
     
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    Nope, too tough to play with! My usual ones are the PC600 and it's earlier variants but recently I venture into the PT630 and the Fischer Pro Classic 98 (straight beam one)
     
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    Boinz, should you find those cyan racquets redundant, or might want to trade for a Classic 98, drop me a line sometime... Retrowagen at yahoo dot com. ;-)
     
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    sorry missed this Retro.. will shoot you a mail if I want to get rid of it. rather they be in the hands of a connoisseur :)
     
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    I just bought this racket from someone from a auction site. Very curious to see the condition
     
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    For those of you who have played with both the Austrian and Asian versions, are there any differences beyond cosmetics? Do they play any differently?
     
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    Now that Ive snagged a Fischer Revolution Classic 98 +1.5cm I must have a version of this frame. The RC98 is a serve beast... huge enormous 1sts and 2nds but I think I would actually play with the 90 when it wasn't a crucial match.
     
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  49. retrowagen

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    Yes, there's a detectable difference between the two. The Asians feel slightly crisper, I'd say; the Austrians, more plush. Both are excellent frames in their own right.
     
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    My vacuum pro is in!
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    The condition isn't what I hoped it would be, but you can't win 'm all. Will look nice next to my Elliptic Pro with the same paintjob.
    Does anyone know why this one is called the "Plus" Pro? The bumper is noticably wider than the SC and the frame seems about 2-4 mm wider.
     
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