foot problem?

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  1. newbie123

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    Whenever I play a lot of tennis - while I'm playing tennis, it feels as if the bottom of my feet is being stretched and it gets worse the harder/more I run. I have not previously encountered this problem til recently and after I got some prince shoes. Does anyone else have this problem? Why does it happen and how can I avoid it?
     
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  2. VictorS.

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    I've had some problems with my right foot off and on over the past 6 months. I initially treated it with a cortisone shot and began wearing orthotics, which really helped out. Over the next 3-4 months I played without any discomfort. However, I recently began playing much more on hard courts and I think the soreness on the inner arch of my foot has kind of flared up, albiet much less severe. I've bought some insoles which really lessen the pounding on the hard courts, however overall my feet just feel sluggish and less responsive with the overly cushiony insoles.

    If you can help, I would recommend playing more on clay courts. It just seems to be much easier on the joints.
     
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  3. Marius_Hancu

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    Sorry to break you the news, and I am not an MD, thus no guaranteed diagnostics here, but I am 70% certain that you might have a form of plantar fasciitis caused by your shoes not being flexible enough in their soles.

    Check my posting at:
    Great fitness sites
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=33800
    go to the Heel Pain section

    The first link there gives a "shoe pushup test". You might try that on your shoe, but I am pretty confident without it.

    Remedy: change the shoes immediately and see the effect. As a matter of fact, it might take several weeks until you see the effect. But if after tennis your pain is presently intensified each time, that would be sooner.

    In my case, it was a NB800 shoe which generated the problem (you might still see my complaint at Customer Feedback at TW, but the shoe was discontinued, perhaps as a result of complaints from guys like me, because I certainly wrote NB and they confirmed receiving my message). I had other shoes from NB before that, which were perfect, this wasn't.

    In my case, this was manifested in the heel, which is one of the anchor points for the plantar fascia, but many times is located in your sole.

    The only way to get away from this (I had painful heels for 1.5years), was to change the shoes and to utilize Spenco full-length shoe support/orthotics ($30). Nike Air Oscillates (Sampras's shoes) are amazing and saved me, however like any modern stupid company Nike discontinued them, even if hordes of customers write everywhere very appreciating messages.

    Presently I am using other shoes, from Wilson, always with the Spenco full-length temporary orthotics.

    I consulted a therapist, she told me to stop exercise and after that to eventually try permanent orthotics ($300). Instead of doing that, I bought my first pair (now I have 6) or Oscillates and my recovery started.

    Now, it might be that your foot has some problems of its own, but if you haven't had anything similar until now and if you played tennis regularly with no problems until now, it's the shoe.

    One of the coaches I know had a problem with Prince shoes. For him the solution was permanent orthotics. Thus it might be that Prince has problems with their shoes.

    However read all the links there.

    What might help is icing the area, reducing the specific effort which produces the pain, stretches and massages. But try to change the shoes first. And do this test before buying them. Basically, if possible, use shoes which you successfully used before.

    BTW, after my recovery I played practically only on hard courts, up to 5 times a week, with no heel problems, thus I am convinced this is over for me now.
     
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  4. degreefanlindi

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    Tennis toe?

    Is the problem in your toe? I had what's called "tennis toe" back in high school and my entire toenail shed...it hurt.
     
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  5. Marius_Hancu

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    that might have been caused by not enough space in the toe area in your shoes. Wilson and New Balance are better in that respect and of course, you should leave some space there.

    indeed, not sure where the original poster's problem was exactly localized.
     
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  6. Noelle

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    Yikes! I think I used to have this, since that feeling of the soles being stretched happened to me when my Fila shoes were new.

    Funny, my feet don't hurt that way now even if I am still using the shoes. But I think I'll stay away from Fila on my next pair.
     
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  7. Ronaldo

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    Your feet feel like they are being stretched because there is nothing under the instep, arch, to support it, to keep it up. TW shoe reviews address the arch support each shoe has but after market insoles can give more support. The 1st question a podiatrist may ask is whether you have gained weight and then the problem surfaced. The extra weight flattens your foot.
     
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  8. newbie123

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    Thanks everyone

    The bottom of my feet feels stretched not my toes. I havent gained weight either...im like 6ft and 145 lbs. My prince shoes do pass the shoe pushup test. I have increased in the amount of playing I do, and I have gotten new shoes. So I'm not exactly sure which one is the culprit, or a combination of both. BTW, I'm only a teenager. I'm wearing Prince Viper 2 NFS Mids.
     
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  9. Marius_Hancu

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    Well, this is then what I assumed it is, plantar fasciitis.

    It's a combination of two, but as I told you, after I changed my shoes, I was able to play much more than before, with no problems. I would still suggest you to go for several weeks to your old shoes or other shoes and see how it goes. Other things which help (such as ice, massage, stretching, are indicated at the sites in my Great Fitness Sites posting, hope you checked them, esp:

    http://heelspurs.com/index.html

    This is a serious problem, will not pass by itself as a result of training, on the contrary.
     
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  10. Marius_Hancu

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    newbie123, I would strongly advise you to read this article:

    http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0180.htm

    I've just rediscovered it in my archives and included it in the Great Fitness Sites:)

    It's intendes for runners, but it's just as good for tennis players.

    You should try all exercises there, but especially the following:

    I practiced all these exercises during the time I had heel pain caused by plantar fasciitis, and it reduced my pain considerably. It was kind of a instant relief for me, but not sure how you're going to feel.

    You must do them after playing tennis, running and any exercise, and during the day.
     
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  11. Marius_Hancu

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    You should go to a orthopedic surgeon (that's an MD) or to an orthopedist. What happens its that at your age, the body changes. Perhaps your arch or the flatness of your foot has changed and you need some foot support. You can try with the $30 Spenco full length orthotics support (in sports stores or on Internet) or the doctor might recommend you permanent orthotics, which are more expensive, but absolutely required in some cases.

    But first change your shoes, do the stretching I recommended you in the previous articles and see the effect of it after 1-2 months. But you would still feel that after each playing session, in that that the pain doesn't intensify as it did before with the shoes which probably caused the problem.
     
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  12. newbie123

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    thanks marius
     
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  13. degreefanlindi

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    Tennis toe

    Yes, I do think it was a result of not enough toe space in my shoes. I was wearing Prince....and they were a bit snug.
     
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  14. Ronaldo

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    Not sure which Prince shoes caused the problem but encountered some of the same with the NFF shoe and its gel insole. Replaced the insole, problem solved but lost that low to the ground fit.
     
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  15. dennis1188

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    Saw some exercises/treatment Curt Shilling, was using during the recovery from his recent ankle surgery (torn tendons in the right ankle);
    i) picking up some marbles with bare feet. ii) rolling a can over the floor with bottoms of his bare feet,
    iii) deep knee bends w/ some light weights, iv) wobble board.
    I tried all the insoles at REI, and found the 'Ultra Soles' to be the best.
     
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  16. Marius_Hancu

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    Didn't know Shilling had to go through this surgery. Did he get injured while running or while throwing?

    I had myself a torn ligament in my left ankle 6 years ago. Went to surgery only after 2 years, hoping I might recover otherwise. In the interim, my lateral support during changes of direction (say coming back from the left of the court, after a BH), was nil, just like stepping in a hole.

    Didn't do anything similar in terms of exercises for my soles (as in the above) during my rehab from surgery. I just tried to reinforce the ankle per se. However, when I had the heel problems later on (reported in the above posting), I did exercises similar to i) and ii) and I can attest to their efficiency. It's both a massage and a flexibility exercise.
     
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  17. dennis1188

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    Shilling, pitching in the final game to win the playoffs with all those bloody stiches caused some additonal damage to his ankle. ESPN, also, showed he had injuryed it playing earlier in May'04, and knew he would require the surgery in the 'off-season'. They showed him also, being hit by a line-drive in the already injured ankle, during the regular season and badly limping during his games. He was shown during rehab in waist deep water at a swimming pool and light tread mill exercise.
    BTW, they mentioned he spent five weeks in a wheelchair after his surgery.
     
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  18. Marius_Hancu

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    doing it in water's very clever, no shocks
    generally a great medium for exercising
     
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