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  1. MikeHitsHard93

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    Haha I was excited and did a "oh **** what did I just do" lol.

    I've been looking at these sticks for a long time now, so it wasn't just because he told me to buy them. Honestly I should be getting a decent amount of money back for them and I'm not THAT upset. I'm gonna demo a few tweeners and go from there probably.
     
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  2. P.Floyd

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    No, no, not at all, ridiculously awesome rather. That's why I think you should post it bro!

    Recommendations? Eh, I learned my lesson. I just provide recommendations for tips now, generally prefer songs. :)
     
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  3. Lilguy1456

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    rofl...a sarcasm contest it is sir!
     
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  4. P.Floyd

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    Seriously, though, are you really saying the Radical MG was a bad recommendation given what Mike said? Have you played with it?

    Mike wants to pack-up shop immediately, which is cool, but I've seen tons of people learn how to play with this same racquet. If he sticks with it, he won't be framing balls in a month and he won't be complaining that it's under-powered once he sets it up right. But he sounds like he has a raging case of racquetholism. :)
     
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  5. Lilguy1456

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    It was only a bad recommendation based on results...at the time of the recommendation, no, it wasn't bad...it made sense...
     
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  6. Lilguy1456

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    All trolling aside for a moment...

    If that Rad Pro doesn't work out power/forgiveness wise, perhaps the OS
     
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  7. P.Floyd

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    Haha putting your safe out there with that recommendation, I like that!
     
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  8. MikeHitsHard93

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    LOL yep you hit the nail on the head. I want to stop messing with rackets and start playing. I want to start winning again!
     
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    Give it at least a week before you start dumping it. You only played with it once so give it at least some time. You have really nothing to lose. You can't send it back so adjust to it. It isn't that demanding if you get used to it. Once you stop framing it it is a great racquet.
     
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  10. P.Floyd

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    They why fall into the same trap? The MG Rad is pretty much standard issue. But, then again, there's those shiny pure drives. :twisted:
     
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  11. MikeHitsHard93

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    Alrighty man. That's the plan
     
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    3rd party here...

    If poly is the problemo why not restring and get back on the court and give them a swing?

    I just cant see how you could spend this much time on finding a stick and then spending the money to get them and having only hit with them once... complaining that they dont work for you and you want to send them back. Complete slap in the face to anyone who has helped you figure this thing out.

    Give it some time and get that poly out of there... what's another $100 in figuring out what string is right for you and/or that stick? If you find the right string and you pull it together you wont even care about the money.
     
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  13. MikeHitsHard93

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    Thanks for the input. The main issue for me was timing due to the balance. Ive dealt with that, and will go from there. If the ss is still too small, I'll swap out the strings.
     
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  14. MikeHitsHard93

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    Ok, got to hit today with the modified radical. Added 3 grams of lead tape to the butt and an over grip. Also removed my worm damp and replaced it with a typical damp. Results: much better, but I'm still a bit concerned about the small sweet spot and low power level. Also, at this weight which is about 12 oz, I got a little tired after 3 hours of average hitting.

    Things I liked: spin, comfort was a little better due to less framing, nice plush feel, pretty good control.

    Things I didn't like: low power, small sweetspot, sluggish due to my wristy forehand, unforgiving, really had to set up early to make a decent shot.

    Overall, this racket was much better for me when I added weight to the handle, had nice control and good spin for an 18x20, however I just am not good enough and don't generate enough consistent power to use this racket. I guess I don't necessarily want to get a LOT better, just consistent enough to have fun with my recreational tennis classes and outings. A good recommendation for the person looking to train a ton and develop their game, but not for someone that plays recreationally and is looking for something fairly easy to use and have fun with.

    I already have a friend interested in one of my radicals, and my dad likes them too. Will use my pro open until I decide what to do next.

    Floyd, your recommendation was spot on and I thank you. I guess I didn't know what I really wanted until now.

    A tweener that's easy to use and has a great blend of power control and spin is what I'm looking for. Maybe a touch more comfort than babolats and Wilson's tweeners.
     
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    Hmmmm, your measurements appear way off. Strung weight should be about 312 grams. Adding everything you mentioned, you should still keep you below 325 grams, which is still below 11.5 oz. If you add 10 grams of weight at the hoop, you're still around 11.8 oz. 10 grams of hoop should give you a ton of pop, and if you arrange it correctly should open up the sweet spot. Then of course, there is still the issue of the strings. You can easily get more pop than what the cyclone provides.

    That all being said, I don't think the racquet is for you. For whatever reason, you have made the decision that you just don't jive with the racquet very quickly. I wouldn't second guess that feeling, that's precisely why people demo.

    If your arm can handle it, go pure drive and don't look back.
     
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  16. MikeHitsHard93

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    I ordered my rackets with sw of 320 and on the handles of the TW matched specs, it said static weight to be 11.6 oz. that's where I'm getting my calculations. I honestly can't handle anything with a sw higher than 320.

    Like I said, this is a great racket if you generate your own power and have good technique. I'm a 3.5 baseliner that needs a little bigger sweetspot, more power, and good spin potential to reign it all in. I'm not good enough to wield anything heavier than 11.6 ounces. I've found this out after playing with over 35 frames.

    Will probably pick up a BIO 500 Tour since it is cheap and is said to have everything that I want.
     
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  17. P.Floyd

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    Ha! 11.6 oz? Those racquets are supposed to be 11 oz strung -http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_MicroGEL_Radical_Midplus/descpageRCHEAD-HMGRAD.html. That should take care of the argument as to which company has the worst quality control. At 11.6 oz stock, no wonder you don't like it.
     
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  18. MikeHitsHard93

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    Haha yup it's pretty ridiculous.
     
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    I think you should have stuck with the Pure Drive. It is obvious that you liked it a lot. And, it is the type of racquet with the forgiveness and pop to help guys like me and you out and make the game a little easier.
     
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  20. MikeHitsHard93

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    Yeah man I know. At least I know what's good for my game now lol. Now I'm trying to find some cheaper and more comfortable alternatives to the PD.
     
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    This doesn't sound right... Have you actually measured the racquets when they came?
    If the TW lists the MG Radical at 312g strung, on average, and yours came at 329g strung, something is really wrong. Even if I put about 2 gram towards heavier strings then what they use for their playtesting, that still leaves us with 15g up. That would mean total of 30g tollerance. No racquet company has QC that bad...
    Not even to mention that 15g extra would play havoc to the ballance and SW, depending on where the extra mass was.
     
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  23. MikeHitsHard93

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    TW wrote on the sticker that covered the racket: strung weight 11.59 ounces, SW 320, balance 4pts hl
     
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  24. P.Floyd

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    Mike, I think what BlueB and I are suggesting is that you got a dud racquet (or perhaps two). Those specs are totally off, to the point that it's like you got an entirely different racquet. Are you sure you got the Head Microgel Radical MP?

    If it were me, I'd contact TW and see how you got an 11.6 oz racquet instead of an 11 oz one.
     
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  25. BlueB

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    Have they put the weight inside the handle?
    Have you actually weigh it?
     
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  26. MikeHitsHard93

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    Yeah it's a mg radical mp lol.
     
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  27. MikeHitsHard93

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    I have not weighed it. Need to buy something for that but dunno what kind of scale
     
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  28. BlueB

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    Digital kitchen scale with 1g accuracy is just fine.
    Once you can determin the accurate weight, it is pretty easy to do the SW too, using TW's callculators.

    Anything inside the handles of those bad boys?
     
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  29. MikeHitsHard93

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    Alright thanks man. I have yet to open the butt caps on them
     
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  30. spinovic

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    When I first decided to start playing again, I demoed the BLX 90, Prestige Mid, Extreme Pro 2.0 and BLX 6.1 95 16x18.

    I wanted so badly to get the ProStaff just because. But, ultimately, I wasn't good enough to play with it and I just kept gravitating back to the Extreme because it offered that extra pop and forgiveness that my game needs at the moment. The 6.1 95 was actually more powerful than the Extreme, and less predictable with that power, which is the biggest reason I ended up going with the Extreme. I can generate some power on my own, but I need a little help too. The problem is being able to do it shot after shot with those racquets. You have to be spot on with your swing, and it is tiring having to swing that big every time. That was my experience anyway.

    Having read, and chimed in, on a few of your threads during your racquet search, I've gathered the impression that you and I probably aren't drastically different in our abilities, preferences and needs on the tennis court. I thought as much before, but wasn't as sure until I saw your response to the Radical MPs. I was afraid it might turn out that way. I still think you could stick it out and learn to play with them, but I also understand the frustration of playing with a stick that's just a little too demanding for you current game. For me, it typically shows up most in the inability to get depth on my groundstrokes on a consistent basis, which is certain doom on the tennis court.

    If possible, I'd say buy you a Pure Drive (or something like it). Demo some more similar racquets if you would rather get something besides the Pure Drive. Something in that 100 in head size that will give you some forgiveness and a little more pop on your shots. Something that is a little easier to play with. But, based on some of your previous posts, it seems like you really liked the Pure Drive. I think you could get that racquet and not look back. Who knows? Down the road, you might want to move on to the Radicals.

    I can relate. The only difference is I just demoed (and hoped I would like those racquets) instead of actually buying one. If you don't want to keep the Radicals, I bet you could sell them on the forum, or trade them. You might have to be patient, but you will likely eventually find a buyer or someone willing to trade.

    In any case, good luck. I hope it works out for you.
     
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  31. Francis27

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    Hi mike have you ever thought of trying the Wilson Blade 98? it has a pretty big sweetspot and you could hammer groundstrokes and serves like Milos Raonic :)
     
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    Why don't you just go with the updated pro open?
     
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    Sorry about replying from the middle of the thread. There's a point on the handle that adding lead there will make the racquet swing more efficiently, giving you a surprising amount of extra power. Just wrap the grip under your overgrip with a layer of 1/2" lead tape at 7" up from the butt. If you use too much, you will start hitting a righty forhand too far to the left.

    I'm thinking you should try the lead at 7" before re-stringing with multi. After trying it out, you may find that you can play with poly or you could try switching to multi next. If you do each step seperately, you will be able to tell how much power is added for each.

    I hope this is still relevant by the end of this thread.
     
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