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Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by dozu, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. Photoshop

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    Are you referring to this thread? What makes you think you can beat the people OP beat in the tournament? Don't tell me you see "screaming holes" in their game that you can exploit all day long. You know better than that - tennis simply doesn't work that way... it's all about match-ups and just because someone has a glaring weakness it doesn't mean you can easily exploit it.

    How do you expect people here not to retaliate when you talk crap about a 4.5 tournament?? "a sure $3k pay day" LOL! You're the one talking trash, so puhleese, don't give me that lame excuse "i dun need to prove anyone." You can dish it out but can't take it huh?

    PS. GO LI NA!!!
     
  2. tlm

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    Glad to see that their are others that can see through dozu's BS. But you have to remember that his game has no holes in it, he is a legend in his own mind.
     
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  3. tlm

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    Exactly right he has no idea of what he is talking about. Good 4.5 players will eat you alive if all you have is a slice.
     
  4. dozu

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    I am puzzled - which part of "$3k bet for 2 rounds in 4.5 tournament" do people not understand....

    I think as far as burden of proof goes - it's put up or shut up time for the doubters.
     
  5. tlm

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    It is that simple, but like i have said he lives in fantasy land. Because if he entered a tournament then he would find out how many holes are in his game, plus his ego could not handle the smack downs he would be receiving.
     
  6. HunterST

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    Dozu and we should just stop using the numbers to rate him, and other players for that matter. We've seen his videos and we can see his game. It is obvious that he's a good, consistent player who doesn't give away many points and plays smart. Why do we need to muddle up what we know by applying an NTRP to it?

    Really, it doesn't make sense to say Dozu is a 4.5 player (or any other rating) when he doesn't play leagues or tournies. It's really just a guess as to what type of player his game would line up with. Think about it, just because my game is pretty equivalent to a kid I know who plays varsity in high school, I would never say "I'm a high school varsity player."

    No middle aged recreational players get on and say "I'm a 1 star recruit" just because that's where they might fall if they were recruits. The silliness is self evident, but for NTRP we make an exception.

    Basically, I agree. Until Dozu plays a tournament, talking NTRP rating is silly and pointless. Seems like a better idea to discuss concrete aspects of the game.
     
  7. gahaha

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    He may not give any points during a match, but he cannot take any on his back hand side either. Not taking a point when you have the chance to is also giving up points, I was told this some time back. Having only a slice for a back hand is a liability, because you simply cannot score, not on decent players, not matter how good it is.

    I used to play my dad a while ago with just, a slice on my back hand. It is nearly impossible to score consistently and I find myself running around it. Believe me, I was incredibly consistent, and had good placement. A fully developed slice is not as fast as a stroke.

    I hate using numbers to rate also, but any tennis player with decent experience know that just slicing is not recommended. Look at Santoro, he is considered a junk baller, with all sorts of crazy spins, but guess what, he has a stroke and does use it often.

    Please stop with the need to ask others to post videos, getting personally involved in an online debate is pointless. Anyhow ask any tennis coach or pro, I guarantee 100% of them would recommend developing some sort of stroke.
     
  8. gahaha

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    Most people who posts video take constructive criticism quite well, you simply cannot post a video and expect other commentators to post their own for you to take their comments seriously.

    A stroke is essential on both sides.
     
  9. dozu

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    @gahaha - thread is quite long so I can't fault you, already pointed out where I hit the topspin BH

    @photoshop - really don't wonna go into the details of the screaming holes, as that will just open up another can of endless worms - like I said, for those doubters, they need to put up or shut up.... at this point they are just talking crap right now, because there is already enough evidence that the bet is a lock of a loser.
     
  10. mightyrick

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    A few questions on the bet.

    * Who would be the escrow?
    * Which NTRP 4.5 USTA tournament would you want to enter?
    * Are there any conditions through which, if you lost, you would not pay? (Injuries for example).
     
  11. HunterST

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    Actually, wouldn't the bet just prove who was more confident about their guess, not whose guess was actually correct? :razz:
     
  12. dozu

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    any reputable escrow is fine on any legit 4.5 tourney... If I am injured I won't play.
     
  13. mightyrick

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    If you are injured during the match -- sprained ankle, cramps, whatever -- and cannot continue... would you pay?

    For example, let's say you are losing the first match (6-1, 5-2)... and you roll your ankle or get a cramp or tweak your back... do you still pay?
     
  14. dozu

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    bro we are just wasting time here... gonna watch hockey now.
     
  15. dozu

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    Vancouver !!!
     
  16. dozu

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    you are exactly right - that's why there are no takers.... but I see mightyrick is kicking tires right now
     
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    If you aren't going to answer questions about the contract, then don't offer a bet. The contract needs to be air tight. If you are going to offer a bet, then you have to be 100% clear on the situations where payment would be disqualified.

    If this were fifty dollars, then nobody would care. I'd take the bet now. But for $3,000... that requires a little bit more than beating your chest. It requires a clear contract and complete understanding of the bet.
     
  18. onehandbh

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    While I don't think a slice BH is the most offensive shot of all time, I'm not
    sure why so many posters think that hitting a slice BH almost exclusively
    would prevent someone from winning a 4.5 tournament. I'm pretty sure
    there are some people w/a decent slice BH that would win a 4.5 tournament.
     
  19. dozu

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    it's getting funny.... I already pointed out where I hit the topspin.... will prolly have to make a video with exclusively hitting topspin BHs.

    speaking of the slice.... I can't resist referring to the 'other thread' where OP made it to the 4.5 tourney semi -- show me 1 topspin BH there (from the OP or his opps) .... just one... where is it.... the first guy he beat doesn't count - that is NOT a 2hbh topspin... that was some beginner style 2 handed bunt giving up short balls every time.... and mind you, that is a R16 match, so in a 43-person draw, that beginner has already won at least 1 round..... anybody still kicking tires? LOL.

    and further more, show me 1 BH slice, that was hit better than dozu's slice.

    people are blind....

    lighting is not bad now... let me go shoot a 1hbh topspin instruction video and come back.
     
  20. HunterST

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    In fairness, though, my backhand is much better than the poster's from that video, and I wouldn't come close to winning a round at a 4.5 tournament. Strokes don't tell the whole story.
     
  21. dozu

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    strokes don't tell the whole story - true.... but I believe ball flight does tell a partial story.

    constantly giving up short balls is guaranteed way to lose against another player who is always deep.... those blind people can look at my video again, look at the depth control, and look again how I punish short balls.
     
  22. gahaha

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    Oh, I thought you didn't have a stroke, my bad. Anyway aside from that I don't think I want to get caught in this argument..
     
  23. onehandbh

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    I agree. Depth will usually win out.

    If dozu can beat JRB, then he'd probably do decently in a 4.5 tournament.
    Not sure why people think of 4.5 as some crazy high level. In the end,
    unless we die a sudden death, one day we may all be a falling 3.5, 3.0,...
     
  24. dozu

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKrzzu7sbw

    hit over the BH a bunch.... hey arche3, if you are thinking about approaching my BH and hoping for a slice to volley... that ain't gonna work LOL.

    finally went back to Bab Tonic gut after all the experiment with cheap guts, nylons and some polys... string is SO NICE !! the other cheap stuff maybe good for abuse - in the rain, on dirt, or garbage hitting sessions.... but Bab guts are still the best.

    realized that I am having some issue with balls now.... the Wilson Champs are usually quite good, but this last batch seemed to have a problem that Wilson had before.... some production process must be screwed up... these balls fluff up so fast... they are flying quite a bit slower than usual.
     
  25. zapvor

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    whats your ntrp dozu?
     
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    Oh lord dont get him started again...
     
  27. arche3

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    I see nothing in your game that concerns me. shoot a video with higher ball speed and spin. let me see what you've got. walking around returning puff balls from your opponent does not impress me.

     
  28. zapvor

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    i didnt want to read through the 27pages. the other guy that posted video is way better than him
     
  29. zapvor

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    yea his opponent is giving him such easy balls....i am willing to play a match and see how i do against him lol
     
  30. dozu

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    @arche3 - lets make a deal, you post 1, then I will do my best to shoot one with faster balls.

    @zapvor - who is the 'other guy' ?
     
  31. zapvor

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    the tonygao one that posted the 19min video of match play you are posting in as well

    so whats your ntrp? i am 3.0
     
  32. arche3

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    yeah I do need to post it. you are right. would make our trash talk so much better. and then we can escrow and all that too. video polls, etc...
     
  33. dozu

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    what is the over/under score if we do escrow? :twisted::twisted::twisted:
     
  34. arche3

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    doesn't paypal do escrow? And to be honest I don't even know what over/under means. I don't gamble.
     
  35. dozu

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    no idea about paypal.. over/under means how many games arche3 will win from dozu per set... so e.g. over/under was 1 game per set that arche3 wins from dozu's 'sucky' partner.
     

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