forehand vids

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  1. tonygao

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    hi guys,

    I have been unsatisfied with the non-hitting arm in my forehand for a very long time. so yesterday I put up a practice session focusing just on it.

    but I still have no idea how to improve it after seeing the vids myself. I know i don't like it, but what should I be trying to change to make the non-hitting arm better and to improve my overall forehand motion.

    please check out the below two vids from different angles:

    from the left:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFsETw6CPJc

    from the right
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1zXZ1lzN5w
     
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  2. USERNAME

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    Watch Murray and try to do what he does. He really reaches out and then tucks his arm to really open his shoulders into his shots, thats textbook right there.
     
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  3. GetBetterer

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    I want to say it's because you're using an open stance for quite a lot of those shots.

    You get in a closed stance position, but then your front foot moves back. This reduces the need for body rotation (since most of your body is already open) and hence you don't need the hand out in front.

    Perhaps it feels awkward because you have an open stance, therefore chest facing the net, and you have your hand out.

    This then puts the hand out as if you were grabbing like...candy from a Halloween bin or something while trick-or-treating (hard to explain).

    If you have a closed stance, your hand is still in the front of you, but it helps with the natural-ality of body rotation and the kinetic chain.
     
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  4. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    you seem to be playing the shot with just one arm...
    (well, duh, but let me explain)

    stand up, hold out your arms, keeping them horizontally opposed, take the right arm back as though you were going to play a forehand, now swing them both through, hard.

    Feel that? Your shoulders should have rotated, perhaps even your hips if you really wound it up. That's a forehand...

    At the moment, you're just hitting it with your arm.
    You might try pointing at the ball as it comes to you to get that left arm extending a bit. (helps you to focus on the ball a bit too.)

    Other posters may take a different view, but that's my 0.02 cents worth.

    Good luck!
     
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  5. salsainglesa

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    I like to point to the contact point with the palm of my non raquet hand...

    it helps a big deal
     
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  6. pushing_wins

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    tony

    how popular is tennis in china?
     
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  7. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    yes, that's what i meant, just better explained!
     
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  8. tonygao

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    in general, tennis is very popular, especially in big cities.

    but of course it's still not as popular as badminton and pingpong.....
     
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  9. Djokovicfan4life

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    Guys, maybe I'm not smart, but I don't see that this guy is playing with all arm. He turns his hips/shoulders (probably not enough, but that's why it's called improvement), stretches out the non-hitting arm, and then turns into the shot nicely. His weight wasn't behind every shot, but again that can be fixed without employing any major changes.


    Also, Federer fanboys rejoice! He's using a straight arm forehand.
     
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  10. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    well, he said he wasn't happy with his non racquet arm on his forehand, and we are just responding to that...
     
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  11. dozu

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    nah, Tony's technique aint too bad.... just a bit more relaxation will be better.... right now the grip pressure is about a 5 on a scale of 10, and the racket drop looks 'manipulated' instead of a free fall.

    drop the grip pressure to 3, you will automatically improve.

    don't worry about the left arm, it will do what it's supposed to do based on your intent.... if your intent is rotational, it will automatically fold away.
     
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  12. enishi1357

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    yeah for god sake relax
     
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  13. pushing_wins

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    your forehand looks good

    whats the hourly rate for an outdoor tennis court?
     
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  14. TenFanLA

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    Your left hand is the least of your worries. That's just for looks. You have what I call the "arm" swing. There is minimum core (upper body) rotation. I bet you pull up/out too early and hit the long or wide to opponent's forehand side. Also you have no legs into your shots that give you power. You need to squat before making contact which will give you more power and weight into your shots without sacrificing control. If you look at the advanced players they get pretty low before contact.

    It must cost a lot of $ to play tennis in China. Do you have to be a club member or do they have hourly fees? How much?
     
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  15. sabala

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    So what exactly don't you like about it? You're probably thinking too much about that arm anyway.

    I made the mistake of reading something about "keeping the service toss arm up & extended as long as possible then tucking it in...". Went out, practiced serves and ended up thinking about it and being too aware of that motion - screwed me up big time with my whole service motion!

    Anyway, here are some non hitting arms to watch -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDtaC5YgzjI
     
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  16. tonygao

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    for those who are interested in how much it costs to play tennis in China.

    in China, you don't have to a club member. most courts are open to everybody. hourly fee ranges from 4$ to 10$. and the majority in my city is around 7to 8$.
     
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  17. dozu

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    life is good in China
     
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  18. Chenx15

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    i really don't see any major flaws and to be honest the way the ball sounds after you hit it pretty much says it's a solid shot. just relax i guess
     
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  19. TenFanLA

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    Tony, listen to my advice. I'm a 5.0 player and a 7.0 coach. If you watch Fed, Nadal, Djoko, etc. in slow mo and you freeze it right before they swing their forehands, they are almost sitting in a chair to generate power from their legs and their upper body is rotated to generate racket head speed.

    $4-$10/hr is cheap in U.S. but in China the avg monthly salary for a factory worker is $100/mo. So a factory worker would be spending 10% of his monthly income on 1 hr of court time. That is like someone who makes 50K a year in U.S. paying $400/hr for a tennis court. Not exactly cheap.
     
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  20. tonygao

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    thanks for the advice.

    actually worker's salary in my city is higher than some other cities, the lowest is around 200$/month....
     
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  21. dozu

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    factory workers don't play tennis.... white collar guy like Tony prolly makes $30k/year minimum.... and if he has some real estate holdings, he can easily be among the top 5% net worth on this board.
     
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