Former UCF player arrested for intent to purchase "a large quantity" of Molly

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    Oh man, I know some UCF players, ill have to ask about this.

    But Molly down here is huge with college kids, so I can't judge.
     
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    Is every college student starting to take drugs?

    What's the purpose of going to college if you're going to do crap like this?
     
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    Are you really this naive about life?
     
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    Like I said before, they must give awards and degrees to anyone nowadays.

    There is no definite answer about 'life'.

    Humans are either confident or desperate to find the answers to the mysteries of the universe.

    It is far beyond comprehension. It just simply is.
     
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    Because people can make decisions for themselves, it's not always the right one, but it's their decision, not yours. So why spend time judging them?
     
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    You are right OD. highly intelligent and successful people have never done drugs. It is only for losers and dropouts. You figured it all out again champ.

    This dude would double bagel you while on Molly. That must bug you a little to know that.

    All overdrive has done is judge people since he joined here. He judges people on their tennis shoes, their racquet, and their ethnicity. Must be an awesome guy to hang out with.
     
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    i hope him the best with his legal troubles.
     
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    Each year of my sons high school about 10-12 athletes would be kicked off teams for failing drug tests, its happening before college.
     
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    Everyone judges either subconsicously or consciously.

    What the other posters have done as well was that they judged consciously. Congrats on winning the hypocrite on the year award. :)

    It doesn't matter about how good he is, he still made a poor decision.Playing a sport is supposed to demostrate character. He failed in showing an example to future players and athletes and the coaches have failed in teaching these players on how to guide their pupils on the right path. Hopefully, he will learn from this experience. I won't be surprised if he does not.
     
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    college kids getting loaded = normal. college is easy after all.

    this kid was just dumb and deserves to be treated as such.

    he'll get a second chance and it's not like he missed out on Wimbledon.
     
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    "According to the complaint, the undercover informant would get $10,000 from the buyer, and then pay Salzmann anywhere from $6,000 to $7,000 for the kilogram of Molly. The undercover informant would then keep the difference in return for brokering the deal."

    Where did he get that kind of money from?

    Mommy and Daddy should not give any more money to this kid and make him work to earn it.

    But nope, parents are panzies these days.
     
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    ^^ I think the larger question is whether he in fact WAS working, i.e. people buy a kilo of a drug because they plan to sell it.
     
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    He was going to throw a hell of a party.
     
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    You think he was a drug mule?
     
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    There's seriously no need to get all high and mighty about it. They guy made a mistake, but it was his mistake to make. He has the free will to do what he wants, why you concern yourself with it is beyond me.
     
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    I never said I did, but it is true though.
     
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    How is this news to you. The last 3 American presidents were all drug users in college, and I'd be surprised if any future president didn't.


    You're very good at playing this character.
     
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    I never said that this was news underling.

    It takes one to know one.
     
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    Every thread Overdrive posts in he says something stupid and then attacks everybody who calls him out. Yet he thinks the world is against him.

    That's a winning attitude for sure.
     
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    Every thread I post in, someone who claims to have degrees types something that doesn't make any sense and then attacks me when I catch them on it. Yet, he/she has a pole lodged in their rump.

    That's an oxygen thief for sure.

    You can't 'say' something on a forum. Moron.
     
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    Try not to get so bent out of shape. You may actually get some friends one day.
     
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    Yes, you're absolutely right.
     
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    TW Forums: Come for the crazy conspiracy theories about what racket a player is actually using, stay for the entertainment. :D
     
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    This is terrible news for me. I watched this boy grow up and sat through many of his junior matches. He has wonderful parents and I hope he is able to learn from this huge mistake and get his life back on track.
     
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    It sucks..I hate seeing random people throw stones from the web at the guy because I know some UCF players and they are all really cool guys and great players. But the net is a great place for cowards to voice their negative and uneducated opinions.

    I am sure this will be a huge life lesson, and possibly (hopefully not) a felony on this guy's record. He can move on from it over time and learn his lesson, but it should bring to light that this is not an anomaly. This is not a bad kid, he just got caught up in the lifestyle that is EXTREMELY common for kids right now in college down here.
     
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    says the guy with an Agassi avatar.
     
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    Yep. A guy who was busted for using meth and now educates underprivileged children using his own money and is considered one of the greatest players in history.

    Whats your point again? I think you just proved mine.
     
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    Sounds like you are judging Overdrive.
     
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    Why are you concerned about Overdrive's posting, which is a far less serious thing to be concerned about?
     
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    The point of the thread is a college kid screwed up. No need to white knight for a guy on here who can handle himself.
     
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    The issue is that he was trying to score a kilo of this stuff to sell and distribute. If he had only a all amount for himself that's one thing......a kilo of pills is a HUGE amount - that's dealer territory.

    Molly like ecstasy is a synthetic drug right - homemade? So often you really don't know what the hell you are taking?

    Kid should have stuck to pot and vodka.
     
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    I am not standing up for Overdrive. I am standing up for the basic concept of truth in a crowd of tolerant/nonjudgmental types who get judgmental towards others for being judgmental. It is a basic matter of self-contradiction that the nonjudgmental types never have the integrity to deal with.
     
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    I agree. I played college lacrosse and I saw this exact stuff go down. It is not because the guys were bad people..they were caught up in the party and the girls who dig this lifestyle are smoking hot many times. Some see the money they can make and take a risk. It's a very bad idea.

    Its stupid and dangerous. I had a friend killed who went big with the E pills because he tried and make big transitions like this guy. He messed with the wrong guys. Trust me, I know the deal. I am just saying that we don't know the full story on this guy.

    My point is that this stuff is more common than people think right now. I work in the music and entertainment industry and am based right where this guy is. I know the scene down here, and this is not something that is uncommon right now.

    To clarify,. I am not sure the difference between molly and X. I have not messed with anything since my college years. I just drink Beers (thanks Bad Call..lol) and scotch.
     
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    I have plenty of integrity. Come on down here to Orlando anytime and judge me in person and feel free to speak your mind if you want. Just shoot me an email when you are in the area. I have met plenty of TT folks.
     
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    Show us your integrity by addressing your hypocrisy on judgmentalism and nonjudgmentalism.
     
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    Email me anytime and we can talk about it off the boards. You obviously want to derail the thread with a personal battle. My email is accessed through my profile.
     
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    Sad story. Thankfully courts have someone who can who can judge gross violations of federal law.
     
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    i thought i told you to keep folding hats!!!! :twisted: :wink:

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    Not if you want to graduate with honors in chemistry and get into a good grad school. :)

    Business, accounting, and exercise science are the easiest majors. Which incidentally are the majors that frat/sorority students graduate with. Easy degree, a lot of time to do drugs and party, and if you have connections from frat/sorority alumni they can get you a job at their firm.
     
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    It is the exact opposite. I don't know you, don't know Overdrive, don't know the kid involved, and never heard of "Molly" until I read this thread and know no one who is involved with it. The issue is not personal at all to me. The issue is philosophical. Those who condemn others for being judgmental are being judgmental themselves. You are one of millions of Americans who do this, and not even the only one on this thread doing it. I am asking just one of these millions to recognize their inconsistency and defend it or drop it. You are the one who think this is all personal, not me.
     
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    Man up and email me or let it go.
     
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    When I was an undergrad, the college course catalog had a statement that we could expect to do two hours of homework for each credit hour taken. Sign up for 15 hours, expect to do 30 hours of homework for a total of 45 hours. That is merely the equivalent of a full time job; no big deal. I saw a recent survey result in a newspaper article that said the average college student reported doing about 18 hours of homework a week. That means they have a 33 hours a week job, no house to take care of, no wife and kids to take care of. Maybe we are identifying part of the problem here.

    A college could get tough and assign lots of homework and flunk those who don't do it, but America is overbuilt on college capacity, and lots of colleges need warm bodies with parents who pay tuition, so that will not happen. Sounds like there will continue to be lots of partying going on.
     
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    Man up and respond to the point made, or let it go.
     
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    Have we gotten to the point in this society where people who think ill of drug dealers are considered worse than drug dealers?
    People who criticize drug pushers are now objects of scorn and hate and people who deal drugs are given support.

    What if your daugher died or was harmed directly or indirectly (from being messed up) from this guy's drugs? Would you be an evil person for criticizing him?
     
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    The movie Spring Breakers illustrated this well.
     
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    1. Not all university courses assign homework, most just have quizzes and tests with a cumulative final at the end of the semester. It would be a god send to have homework, because it's the ultimate grade buffer if there aren't any curves. I've spent a total of 10 hours on my studies per week for 17 credit hours, which is all you really need to get an A in a class as long as you go to every class and know what the hell they are teaching. The reason why most college students do not get an A in a class is because they might not even attend class or wait until the last minute to cram for an exam.
    2. Partying only happens on the weekends at my university, it's not like everyone can afford alcohol and other substances everyday. But I do agree that the American university system is really flawed, you only need to keep a 2.0 gpa average to stay in a university, which helps the university take loads of money from students failing out of classes and having to take it over agin. But if you take the business/accounting way out, you can assure yourself a high paying job with an alumni from a frat/sorority, and basically take easy classes and graduate.
     
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    No, you would not be evil. You would just be judgmental, which is worse than evil today.
     
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    One must be judgmental for the right causes. If a player was charged with providing a market for weapons which are "huge down here" with bangers (and, hysteria aside, perhaps infinitely less harmful to society than illegal drugs) one would be free to judge.
     
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    Drugs are bad, mmmmk?
     
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