Free Strings w/Gamma Porgression 200?

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  1. eastbayliz

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    I am about to take the plunge and buy a stringer! I am a beginner and on a budget so I am going to buy the Gamma Progression 200. I see that it comes with "Starter String Pack of 3 FREE sets of Gamma performance string". Does anyone know what kind of strings they are? I am playing with Volkl Classic Synthetic Gut 17 String right now and like the feel. Thanks in advance!
     
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  2. roman40

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    I got the following sets when I bought mine (total of 6!):
    Revelation 16, 2 x TNT2 16, Synthetic Gut 16, Asterisk Tour 16, Zo Pro Sping (Poly/SynGut hybrid)

    However, I am hesitant to use them, since I am worried I might like them and I already bought a reel of Silverstring and OG Micro. Sounds crazy, but I don't feel like experimenting, given that it takes me more than 1hr to string each racket. I'll probably use them later, when string becomes less of a chore, or if I restring for a friend.
     
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  3. Lakers4Life

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    Count yourself lucky, Gamma used to ship some crappy string that probably never sold well. All the strings you listed are average priced and popular. Though I never purchased my Gamma machines new, I have Marathon DPC 15L, Challenger 16, Flex Core Power 16, Synthetic Gut 16, and TNT Fat Core 16, that were never used by the previous owner.
     
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  4. Radicalized

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    The strings have varied over time. There is a recent thread where something like this was asked if you do a search. My best guess would be a synthetic gut, Duraspin, Revelation, or TNT(2).

    And there is nothing special about those strings where you should feel scared you might want to switch.

    To the OP, there isn't anything special to look forward to.
     
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  5. Irvin

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    The strings you get may be varied but they won't be Volkl. They will be good to practice / learn with and you may find yourself liking them.
     
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  6. mikeler

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    I bought my machine 5 years ago and the best of the strings was Gamma synthetic gut 16. They are good practice strings though.
     
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  7. Irvin

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    When I got my machine I got it through the USPTA. It was a little cheaper but no strings came with it. I figured it as a wash as the discount was equal to TW's string price.
     
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    And I will say 'Welcome to the world of Stringing.' Most questions about technique can be answered if you read the sticky at the top of this forum. Specific questions can also be found searching here or as a post.

    The regular Gamma syn gut w/o wearguard is a crisp feeling string. I don't know how it compares to Volkl Classic, but you could check in RSI or TWU to see what their characteristics are.

    Last comment: Be patient doing the crosses. Mains are easy, but the weaving, until you become proficient will cause you headaches. 2 cents.

    addendum:

    Brand String Ga(mm) Stiffness TotalLoss EnergyRet

    Gamma Syn Gut 16 1.32 200.6 11.5 95.5
    Prince Syn Gut Orig 16 1.30 189.7 10.1 96.4
    Volkl Syn Gut 16 1.30 177.7 9.90 93.3
    Volkl Syn Gut 17 1.28 170.9 11.0 95.1

    Medium swing speed at 51#

    Looks like Gamma SG is a little stiffer.
     
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  9. mikeler

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    Gamma SG is softer than PSGD which is softer than OGSM even though RSI lists them in the opposite way.
     
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    I just bought the same stringer a couple weeks ago and I'm pretty sure I got the TNT2, Poly Z and ? Can't recall the third set.

    I'll look and see when I get home today. I used a couple of them to string up some cheaper racquets (figured it would be good to learn with the free sets on old racquets). They're decent strings though, from what I can tell. They didn't send me junk, that's for sure. Of course, everyone has their own preference.
     
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    I was going to say the same thing, PSGD seems very stiff to me. Maybe the figures from RacquetTech are not for the Wearguard and Duraflex varieties
     
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    asterisk tour, tnt2 (and tnt2 tour), revelation, challenger, syn-gut. all 16 gauge.

    between buying a 6004 and a couple of customer service issues, these are what i have been sent. about a dozen or sets total.

    I've tried the asterisk tour 16 and i like it, i'm normally a fullbed ogsm 17 user. Also trying some rip control 17 at the moment.
     
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    Asterisk Tour is very similar to Wilson Sensation or NXT Control.
     
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    thanks for the info, i don't experiment much and honestly find little differences in most synthetic stuff i try but they do vary abit of course. i just don't think i'm all that sensitive to my equipment as some are which i consider a good thing.

    perhaps i'll give them a whirl down the road.
     
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    Thanks everyone! I think I am going to buy a reel of Volkl Syn Gut 16! I will post what the "free" strings are that I receive.
     
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    east bay is where it's at. i used to live at 43rd and shafter.
    lifelong Raiders fan (ughhh). really enjoyed my time there.
     
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    That is just down the street from me! I am off Piedmont Ave at 41st. Did you ever play at the courts at Mosswood Park? How about Davie Tennis Stadium? Love that place.
     
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    eastbayliz, played at Mosswood a couple times, but often just played at the private school (mighta been catholic?) around the corner from us, maybe 41st or 42nd?

    it's been twelve+ years and I have Glaucoma ;)

    also didn't play much tennis in those days, was doing lots of climbing.......yosemite, etc.
     
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    hmmmmm....the only courts around there I can think of now is Oakland Tech HS.
     
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  20. spinovic

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    My strings were TNT2, Poly Z and Moto. Haven't tried the Moto yet, but the other two are decent strings.
     
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    I like TNT2, one guy I string for plays with nothing else, and others hate it. Funny how everyone has different opinions.
     
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    Count me in as others...
     
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  23. Radicalized

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    ^I concur. Especially at $9.95. I'd rather use a sub-$4 synthetic gut. That includes Gamma's.



    I've never tried Moto. They've moved on the lower-end machines from 5-6 to 3 free sets. The only constant seems to be TNT2. Hmm. Not even Challenger (cheaper than even syn gut) or syn gut 16. Revelation as a multi had been common.
     
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  24. mr_fro2000

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    This is what I got w/ my gamma x-2. I don't know how they play since i used the free strings to string some of my buddies 'crap racquets' to get some stringing practice. Too bad, i thought they were crappy throwaway strings but turns out they're all pretty decent.
     
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  25. mikeler

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    Yep, I'd play with Gamma synthetic gut before TNT even if they were the same price.
     
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    I like the TNT2, but not enough to buy it. The Poly Z seems alright, but didn't hit much with it. I more or less used the free strings to learn with on older, cheap racquets. Although my Spalding racquet is better than a typical Wal-Mart cheapie. The TNT actually plays pretty good in it.

    I'd like to try the Moto at some point just because I have it, but I've got a few other sets I'll be using first.

    I think the strings they give you are decent though. Its nice to get a few free sets to learn with.
     
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  27. sstchur

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    Definitely try the Moto. It's very good. It's been getting really good reviews where I am. A big shop in Portland just made it their "house" string (meaning they're using it for most of their demos).

    Personally, I like iO a little bit more than Moto b/c it plays a touch softer. But Moto is really good and over the long haul, it has slightly better tension retention than Lux.
     
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  28. Radicalized

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    I'm certainly not a string guru. Mikeler or others, the OP said he likes Volkl Synthetic Gut (post #1). Obviously, it's not like the polys included. How about other synthetic guts? It's gotta be/stay "softer" than the TNT2, and more "consistent" in feel. I hate string and wine terminology.

    The one problem with this assortment as the strings to practice with, which may be the best part of getting them, consists of two polys. I can imagine those who don't read this board/have some knowledge from elsewhere and are going crazy positioning the bar, pushing it down, and have bleeding fingers. :0

    Also, if not in the poly "know," hitting will be different, especially if stringing high and a full bed, as opposed to many here who hybrid.
     
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  29. sstchur

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    I'm not really sure why they started including polys. When I bought my machine, none of them were polys. It was (IIRC): Challenger, TNT, Revelation, Syn Gut, and maybe one other -- can't remember which.

    I don't believe any were polys, but my guess is that because there is such a strong trend towards polys, and because they have a few new ones out in 2013, they are giving them away with machines so folks can have a chance to experience them.

    I wouldn't describe TNT2 as "inconsistent." It's a very good quality string. Not everyone likes how it plays. Fair enough. But it's a popular string and for good reason. It is not a "low quality" string, that is for certain.

    Definitely there are better offerings, but it's a solid one in it's price point. It's not "mushy" like a lot of $10 multis are.
     
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    moto is ok. verve still trumps
     
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    Verve is good stuff. I definitely agree with that. It's pretty stiff though, I think. And not at all my favorite to string.
     
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    its not that stiff. i do it at 49lbs its perfect.
     
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    I've never tried the Volkl, so I can't really answer that.


    It is the opposite of mushy. Feels like a stiff synthetic gut which I don't like.
     
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    Yeah, I would mostly agree with this description. It's feels stiffer and crisper to me. I like it alright (though it isn't my favorite). But I can understand how others might not like.

    Irvin said earlier, something alone the lines "some people love, others hate it."

    That's seems accurate. I have a customer who users nothing but TNT. Others are more the "Professional" type (but I might have something to do with that) :)
     
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