French Fans: Nadal - Mathieau Match +

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  1. Buuurnz

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    What's up with the fans in Paris? I'm watching the Nadal match right now and all I can say, I'm not a Nadal fan....BUT the fans and visitors act like a bunch of bozos and they are just not fair at all...!I mean everytime Nadal takes a look at a ball that might have been out they boo...!I mean these fans are horrible...!
    what y'all think?
     
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  2. Dan007

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    That's the exact same thing that happened with Nadal vs Grosjean last year. The French fans are just simply the worst. I mean if you look at U.S. Open and oyher tourneys some other guy from a different country and an American plays, they rooting for the american, but not unfair and start booing.
     
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    Man these guys are French. They root for their home guy and when the other guy takes a time out because of a rampant banana, they're going to get colicky.
     
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  4. siber222000

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    yeah french fans ARE horrible, like the WORST
     
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  5. malakas

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    Yeah..Also this is footbal(soccer) crowd behaviour.In Europe this is the sport that even if you are not a very big fan of you are influenced by it.That's what I think.
     
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    THe boos r killin my mood lol...all the cheers for Mathieu...JUST cuz nadal missed a shot is killing me...but u know if mathieu makes a good shot or nadal makes a good shot they should cheer...i was always taught not to cheer or boo if someone makes a BAD shot
     
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  8. siber222000

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    i just saw one set for blake and monfils.. freakin french crowds, blake got double fault and they cheer for it, wtf?
     
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    I agree. The French are the worst. That incident with Justine raising the hand during Serena's serve. When Serena asked for 2 serves and was denied, the fans booed Serena. I am no Serena fan but the fans need to understand the situation. They just kept booing like idiots. Totally classless.
     
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  10. FedererUberAlles

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    It's called "Passion."
     
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  11. ACE of Hearts

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    Nadal does alot of little quirks that bother people including me.The whole banana issue was ridiculous, i cant wait for his next little act.:rolleyes: Even Mcenroe was having a little giggle with that one.
     
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  12. Rep. Timothy Calhoun

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    To sum it up, this is one of the things that makes Wimbledon the best!
     
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  13. siber222000

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    ...whatever...
     
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    Well,I like it more if the crowd is more appreciative.Even if they boo.:mrgreen:
     
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  15. Count Grishnackh

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    It's called stupid French attitude. When they boo Federer and they will, let's see how much you guys like it then.
     
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    Count idiot shows up:p
     
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  17. vive le beau jeu !

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    they would never boo roger as they boo the topspinmonkey...... and it's normal ! nadal's attitude is provocating the boos...
     
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    i'm not defending the french here . . . they ARE a fickle, hard to please bunch, for sure . . .

    but they are hardly the only ones out there exhibiting poor behavior, bad tennis manners, whatever you want to call it.

    maybe wimbledon is the lone exception to offensive behavior (cos maybe it's the whole 'cathedral of tennis' thing that makes people act right, out of respect. well, that and the fact that the english can be so damned polite . . . when they want to be . . . to your face, at least . . .). but to say that it doesn't happen anywhere else?? come on now! and you certainly can't use the us open has a barometer for good tennis behavior. i mean, they clap louder there (when there's a yank on the court) for opponents' missed first serves or double faults than anywhere else on the planet! excluding davis cup ties, maybe.

    not too mention all the other nonsense that goes on there. they used to talk and yell BEFORE at flushing? hell, i can't wait till this year when they will all be yelling "CHALLENGE" or "SHOT SPOT" every time a friggin' ball lands near a line. circus.
     
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    French crowd boos Nadal after five-hour classic match

    So let's see here:

    The French booed Roddick because they paid big money to see a top-ranked player play some tennis and Roddick had to retire due to re-injuring his ankle, so they booed him because they don't like players copping out with the old injury excuse. It all comes down to THEM, not what's best for the players.

    The French booed Nadal after defeating their local boy PHM because they paid big money to see a top-ranked player play some great tennis which the defending champ and his opponent did for 5+ hours but they booed anyway because the guy they wanted to win did not, even though he poured his heart and soul out there on the court and the fans got their money's worth which they complained they didn't get with the Roddick match.

    Commentators: The French boo and act like pigs because they are knowledgable fans of tennis and they really know their tennis.

    Any other excuses for this boorish behavior? Would love to hear it.
     
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    They probably did not like the banana break. The umpires need to put a stop to alot of those gamesmanship tactics all the players are using.
     
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    Yep, that was what tick the crowd off.
     
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    The umpires let all players take gamesmanship bathroom breaks at odd times, extended injury timeouts for bogus injuries, banana breaks, water cooler breaks, finger rub breaks, it is nonsense. The umpires should be the one to step up and use some judgement.
     
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    let's not sweat the french SO much that we have to give them three threads about why they like to boo so much.
     
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  24. Count Grishnackh

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    Well here's something for you Federer fan. When he tried to discontinue his match with Nadal last year after losing the 3rd set, he was booed. When he didn't get his wish he got nasty with his attitude afterwards and he even got some fans to call out while he was serving and when he complained about it he got booed again. But like you say, the French booing is because they're knowledgeable buffoons. To boo anyone but your boy Federer is ok, but if they boo him then the French are smug idiots. You can easily tell on these boards who are the Fed fans.
     
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    Agree completely.
     
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    Better to be safe than sorry, and if a player needs a few extra minutes in a brutal match, so be it. Fans are so bloody demanding. Maybe we should cut Nadal's legs off before his match to make it competitive. Bloody hell....

    As for the French, have you seen the Dutch soccer fans? The English soccer fans? Maybe Brazil's soccer fans? Americans at a Super Bowl? Give men an opportunity to behave badly and they won't disappoint us....

    -Robert
     
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  27. skip1969

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    truer words were never spoken! but please, don't give ALL the credit to the men. women deserve a little, too.

    you should see how the women in my gym talk about each other during cardio (gulp). i'm blushing as i write this.
     
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    I am so god damn sick of this completely silly and outdated stereotype!!!Why men exept from women to be always sweet-talking and not ever swear????Where,to anyone that doesn't know it yet,women also have hostile feelings and swears are the most direct way to express them!!Anyone who says to me again that I swear much for a girl I will smack him on the face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mrgreen:

    Ouf..had to take it off my chest.

    Good day to you.:cool:
     
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    Let's not indict an entire country because of a few idiot fans (read: fanatics). Every country has idiot fans. Look at the Russian fans who rioted because the Russian World Cup team was beaten in Japan. Look at American fans in some cities that are burning cars and rioting when their team wins (???). Including one young lady here in Boston who was killed during a riot after the Red Sox got past the Yankees a couple years ago. (I know she was shot by a police officer in the confusion, but it wouldn't have happened if people had kept their heads)
     
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  30. Rataplan

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    No, it wasn't. The crowd were busy booing and whistling before that.

    It mostly happened when a line call was in favor of Rafael Nadal. A couple of times, Nadal went up to check a mark (and he was usually right to doubt it) because he was doubting a line call and he got booed for that. :rolleyes:
    Even Guy Forget was saying on French tv that the crowd was wrong to do it and they had no reason to treat Nadal like that. Forget added that it's what a professional should do: check the mark if there is doubt and the crowd should know that.
    Another commentator I was listening to said that he can understand that they're supporting their own player and they want to give him the full support but this is unacceptable behaviour from the crowd.
    (by the way, the crowd was not really against Rafael Nadal IMO - I heard quite a few French voices supporting Nadal - -but a large part of the crowd simply got a bit carried away in their support of their own player).
     
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    There was a situation in last years French when Nadal was playing Grosjean, where Nadal did something in the 2nd or 3rd set that set the fans off and Nadal sort of lost his rhythm for that set and lost it. The set I mean.
     
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  32. HollerOne5

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    The crowd never booed Nadal in that match, they booed the umpire. Nadal did nothing wrong. Grosjean questioned a call but clearly didn't stop play immediately, and only did so after one of his shots landed long, then wanted a previous call over ruled in the point. After the umpire refused to look at the mark because SG continued play, the crowd threw a hissy fit as usual.
     
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    my humble apologies, malakas, if you thought i was trying to perpetuate some out-dated, mysogynistic ideology on how women should behave in today's modern world. that was not my point at all.

    for the record, i love to swear. i love women who swear. i love old people who swear. i have no problem with people acting like asses. so long as they don't act like asses every second of every day.

    we were discussing a lack of etiquette on the part of the french crowd at roland garros. my point (and you can call me old-fashioned for this) was that tennis matches are not appropriate venues for people to act like asses.
     
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  34. Rataplan

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    It wasn't something Nadal did IMO. That's why that partisan crowd were so annoying in that match: after that episode, they started to cheer every time he made a mistak or his return went out or ended in the net or they would boo him and the umpire (who was the real evil guy according to the crowd) for the most silly reason.

    In the middle of a point, Nadal played a point on the line but Grosjean thought it was out. Now, what Grosjean should have done was to stop the rally right then and there because if you continue playing the point, you forfeit your chance to protest.
    But Grosjean didn't do that: he finished playing the point and only after that did he go to the umpire to make his protest and ask him to step down to check the mark. The umpire refused, telling Grosjean that he should have stopped the game right away and that's when that entire episode took place. He also got the crowd involved in it who started heckling mostly the umpire. That lasted ten minutes or so.
    Nadal asked Grosjean to signal his home crowd to calm down but he ignored it, turned his back on Nadal, enjoying the moment and he even encouraged the crowd to continue.
    It's only after ten minutes or so that he signaled the crowd to stop the whistling.

    L'Equipe wrote an article about it, blasting the French crowd for their behaviour.
     
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    Yes I agree with you.It is not the place to act like asses.But I like it better when the crowd is more appreciative and show their feelings.To show passion.Just not over the limits..With respect for the players,the umpire and the game..;)
     
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  36. framebreaker

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    the french people like to express what's on their mind. thats absolutely ok.
    they don't express wrong politeness. they have passion.
     
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    A pretty good percentage of the French population just plain suck. It must feel pretty crappy to play 5 hours then walk off the court and have some people boo you because you choked on a banana.
     
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    lmao your retarded... he was saying that it was bad that nadal got booed, how does that make him a fed fan? WOW

    here's a lesson for you: dont smoke too many joints and then post here
     
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    I hate this Grishnackh guy. What does Federer have to do with this thread? Who are these Fed fans you're talking of? You're an idiot.
     
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    I remember clearly the commentors made a big deal out of this being Nadal's first taste of the crowd being solidly against him (insert anti ESPN comments here). He had had a good clay season and had been the darling of Europe up to that point (not that he's not now) had simply hadn't seen that kind of reaction to that point. So how would he handle it? He lost that set, then gathered himself and won the match. He handled it fine in the end.
    So it wasn't something he did, but the fans did get on him and I believe there were some boos during the games following that incident.
     
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    The crowd was rooting for the homeboy big time, and when Rafa pulled his banana gamesmanship crap on Paul, that's when the mood turned totally sour. No surprises there. Just shows that Rafa will do anything and everything that's legal to win. He is an ultimate competitor, gotta give him credit for that.
     
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    haha i love how anytime something is said about nadal...even when it is TOTALLY off topic, someone will throw in a federer comment just to try and make nadal look better...its funny because its the same thing with federer fans...lol
     
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    arosen,

    Well, tennis is supposed to be a gentleman's game, so I wouldn't say gamesmanship is great. So Nadal is not to be commended for that. On the other hand, Nadal also counters that by sometimes pointing out wrong calls against his favor.

    Nor are temper-tantrums and McEnroe-ism commendable. And neither was Federer's racket-smashing. On the other hand, that's an exception, as he's generally gentlemanly and stoic.

    The French crowd was just disgusting, though. If they didn't get their money's worth, I could understand booing. If, for example, I felt that a player pulled out of the match unexpectedly, and I'd paid very big money to be at the French Open, I'd be very pissed. Wouldn't you? That is completely understandable.

    It is perfectly reasonable that fans should feel they have the right to get their money's worth -- they're the customer, and that's what they're paying for, not a 1-game match that's ended. That said, if the player really is injured, not his fault. I think tennis tournaments ought to deal with this by offering money-back to paying customers when matches are clearly disappointing (e.g., don't go to the minimum length for a normal win).

    However, fans have absolutely no right to expect that a certain player wins. That's not what they're paying for. This is a real sport -- not the WWF -- so you have no right to expect on particular side to win.
     
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  44. The Pusher Terminator

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    Why do the French hate Nadal so much?

    Last year the French crowd really got a little crazy when Nadal beat Grosjean. History repeated itself today and Nadal was booed again. Maybe Nadal should be nicknamed the French terminator...LOL
     
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    You answered your own question.
     
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    Because he took an injury time out, stating that he was chocking in some Banana...


    Dude there are at least 3 Topics about this already..;)
     
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  47. vive le beau jeu !

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    french crowd has already been rude in the past... especially hingis vs graf...... iit's true it was bad. :neutral:

    but when nadal is on the court...... i definitely understand the boos : with all his repetitive ugly celebrations, he's definitely deserving that treatment......
    if i was around the court, i would boo him each time he makes his agressive gestures ! :x

    ... and each time the topspinmonkey puts a banana in the wrong place ! :rolleyes:
     
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    Count,

    Hey, look at my past posts -- I'm a Federer fan, and I think the crowd's behavior sucks.

    I can understand booing if they feel they don't get their money's worth. I'm probably going to go to the French Open and Wimbledon live at some point, and I'd be very pissed if the match was "over" after 1 game. People should get a refund for any match that doesn't go to 3 sets (in a 5 set max; or that doesn't go to 2, in a 3 set max).

    But fans have no right to expect "their" player to win. However, Nadal's gamesmanship isn't commendable, and before you start on your anti-Fed-fan rant, neither was Federer's racket-throwing. On the other hand, each makes up for it by generally being a sportsman.

    This is why I like Wimbledon best. French Open should grow some balls and prevent this kind of crap, from both players and fans. They shouldn't allow gamesmanship, and unsportman-like conduct should be penalized. And if fans are being obnoxious, they should stop the match until fans behave.
     
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  50. Rataplan

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    He put the banana in his mouth...where do you usually stick a banana?
     
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