French Open Friday: We need to take down NBC

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  1. Brian Purdie

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    French Open Friday is a personal holiday I created and you may partake in the festivities wherever you may find yourself. I've been celebrating in some capacity since 1991 when I watched Agassi's semi on NBC (not realizing it was taped of course). Grab yourself an Orangina, a few croissants, and watch yourself some tennis in the morning, then break out the gear and hit your local clay court that afternoon for a some fun afterward.

    As many of you may remember, French Open Friday was a worse than usual abomination from NBC last year. We in the US were forced to watch a TAPED Soderling semi, rather than the thrilling Del Potro-Federer 5 set match. It even provoked a few news articles:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/blog...ks-out-a-thrilling-French-Open?urn=ten,168381

    http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/131455


    , but again reminded us how disappointing the self-proclaimed "Olympic network" really is.

    Yes, we can always watch it live on internet streaming on a 5 inch screen with interrupted connection, but there has to be a better solution.

    So we have Direct TV covering alot of matches this year. Will they be covering it, or does NBC have the monopoly on the tv rights to the semi's again? If so, we have about 10 days to convince these people to show us a live match.

    Any suggestions? Facebook campaign a la Betty White? The A-Team?
     
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    On a different but still related matter:

    Eurosport went on to show the Kubot/Oanna-match today because the "large quantity of Polish fans". In the meantime Gulbis was getting ousted and Tsonga had to win a 5-set epic, while we were watching a total snooze-fest.

    Say 'Hi' to the worst tv-coverage ever.
     
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    TV coverage of tennis is atrocious. Today, I was forced to watch V williams who was up 6-3 3-1 or something like that while Tsonga and his opponent were in a 5 set thriller.

    I need to get direct TV for the multiple match coverage, but I've heard some bad things about Direct TV.
     
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    And don't even get me started on the 3-hour blackout us West Coast viewers have to endure during Wimbledon...:-x

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    It seems it will be the same once again this year, as NBC has the Semi listed as "TAPED" already. Not to mention NBC fudging the Soderling-Nadal upset. NBC @ RG & Wimbledon = EPIC FAIL. If NBC's going to have p*** poor coverage year after year, they should just let ESPN and TC handle all coverage until the finals, instead of constantly screwing over the viewers.
     
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  7. NBC is a fresh green troll. :evil:
     
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    Whatever you do, make sure you let the Tournament Directors of RG and W know, as well as all US Tennis media. NBC has screwed us all, but especially us West Coasters, out of Friday coverage at RG and W for many years.

    A Facebook group is a good place to start for sure.
     
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    it would need to be something to get the attention of the tennis sportwriting community (or even a commentator at TC or ESPN), which would then escalate the matter to the attention of the tournament directors or producers at NBC calling on them to respond to the outrage. All this, and it has to be done a day or 2 ahead of the planned coverage.

    I think our only option may be facebook, but do we know any serious tennis bloggers? Wortheim? Or anyone willing to bring this up BEFORE it ruins the tournamant again this year
     
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    I can send an email to Wertheim. Also I can start a FB group if you feel that is necessary.

    EDIT: Just sent email to Wertheim.

    Hello Jon,

    Looking at the TV Schedule for Roland Garros, it appears that once again NBC will be tape delaying certain telecasts, including one of the men's semifinals. American tennis viewers have to go through this every year, with the same excuses from NBC as to why (not preempting Today Show, soap operas, etc). My question is - why does NBC feel that it's beneficial to continue to ignore the concerns of its viewers (particularly those on the West Coast) year after year, and when when NBC's policy of tape delayed coverage change? Please help get the word out that American tennis fans are tired of NBC's shoddy coverage of two of the biggest events of the year, Roland Garros and Wimbledon.


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/writers/jon_wertheim/archive/index.html

    Mail away guys.
     
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    and yes, i used your photo vibranis.
     
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    philip? is that you ?
     
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    Joined... :)
     
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    does the logo pic infringe on copyright? if it has a red line through it?
     
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    Also please email NBC Sports directly to voice your opinion.

    nbcsports@nbcuni.com

    Fee, sorry if this is much to ask, but you wouldn't happen to know how we can contact tourney officials via email, would you? RG website doesn't seem to have anything. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. :)
     
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  18. Yes....:cry:
     
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    Email to NBC Sports:


    Hello,

    Looking at the TV Schedule for NBC's upcoming coverage of the French Open, it appears that once again NBC will be tape delaying certain telecasts, including one of the men's semifinals. American tennis viewers have to go through this every year, with the same excuses from NBC as to why. While we understand these concerns, we ask that NBC put the needs of American tennis viewers first and foremost for once, and reconsider the decision to tape delay important late round coverage. Just last year, American viewers missed out on several important live matches, such as Robin Soderling's historic upset of Rafael Nadal, the men's semifinal between Roger Federer and Juan Martin Del Potro, and the Wimbledon Semifinal between Andy Roddick and Andy Murray. This led to NBC receiving immense media scrutiny for their decision not to air these matches live. Here we are a year later, and it seems NBC may once again make the same mistake it did last year in not showing these important matches live.

    We understand that these matches were shown on tape 2-3 hours after they occured live, but in the age of the internet and constantly updating news, it is simply irrational to ask American tennis fans to stick their heads in the sand, as it were, and wait to watch taped coverage instead of seeing these events live. That is why I am writing to as if NBC would please reconsider it's policy on showing these matches, and please try to show as much live tennis as possible. This is in the best interests of the American tennis viewers, who are so integral to the success of these broadcasts for NBC.

    Thank You.
     
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    i'm in.... and joined :)
     
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    Now invite the pages for Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Tennis Channel to join your group, or join those pages and post the link on their walls. Send the link to Wertheim, Cronin, Bonnie Ford, Joel Drucker, and Doug Robson. They are all on Facebook and Twitter, so it shouldn't be too hard to get the info to them. See if you can get away with posting the link on the Federer and Nadal fan pages as well.

    If you want to be really annoying, join all the USTA section pages and post the link there. Join all the WTT team pages and post the link there too.
     
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    I think this decision might have made a difference in this match..
     
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    this is about as bad as my local cbs showing oprah over the US Open Finals last year, I wanted to cry
     
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    Guess they make a lot of $$$ off the today show.
     
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    Worst is when they put LIVE EST on the screen. Thinking people won't notice the EST and assume it's live.
     
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    I still think going after the advertisers is a better tact. A short email stating that their decision to give ad revenue to a company that is so out of touch as to not offer live TV coverage, reflects poorly on their company and products.

    I bet NBC circulates some of the most hysterical emails - they don't care. And the tournaments are going to give the broadcast rights to the high bidder - NBC - they could show it 12 hours delayed and have Pee Wee Herman and Rosie O'Donnell doing commentary.
     
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    Yes. Still a huge # of overweight housewives, shut-ins, and oldsters who have not discovered the internet - or the channels about '13' on their TV...
     
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    I boycott NBC on those days as well. I won't be dictated to when I can watch a match when it can be shown live. When they do a blackout, I as well do a blackout and shut off my TV.
     
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    Agreed my fellow Georgian.
     
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    E-mailed everyone posted.
     
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  32. Thanks you! :eek::eek:
     
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    24 hours = 48 people on the facebook group. Not horrible. Thanks to JamesBlakeFan#1 for the good email to NBC sports.

    As for inviting Jon Wertheim and others to join the group...I can only invite my own friends to join the group. If someone can figure out how to link to another organization or invite another organization to join us, don't hestitate. I went ahead and gave everyone who joined admin privelidges.

    my last resort idea: everyone sends a VHS tape of this years French Open Semifinal match to NBC Sports. Maybe send them some Duct Tape? or scotch tape?
     
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    I emailed Wertheim and posted a link on his FB fan page as well.

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Jon-Wertheim/118439468180926?ref=ts

    Maybe you could do the same, but I don't want it to get to the point of spamming him.

    But I will repost the link for the FB group on this page in case anyone missed it...

    PLEASE JOIN! :)
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=128826030463982&ref=ts
     
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  35. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's the picture I posted!!! :D:D:D


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    I wish it could just all be on tennis channel like the other events.

    I remember once, during the end of the last round of the masters, and with an exciting finish, the weather man breaks in with his new doppler radar thingy to tell us there are going to be sever thunderstorms (that's right - not tornadoes, no hurricanes - SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS) in a town in the viewing area that was about 50 miles south of me. I don't mean puts a little graphic on the screen either. I'm talking cutting away from the masters and going to his weather desk to see him doing the weather.

    This is no joke - he spent like half an hour tracking this thunderstorm at 5:00 in the afternoon during the last round of the masters. He was feeling all important with his new instant weather tracker system like he was doing some big public service when in reality he was just looking for an excuse to play with his new toy. I was so mad I called the station and complained and they said I was about the 50th person to read them the riot act. This was on the local CBS affiliate. Tennis Channel would never pull a stunt like that and that's why I hate NBC for tape-delaying their part of the open. They will just dump all over tennis. Don't carry it if you are going to tape delay it.
     
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    ^^^^

    While live tennis is always preferable, as long as they show the key matches at some point is the important thing, regardess of whether on tape. (I know on some occasions they only show one of the semi's, and that's an outrage, but a slightly different issue).

    I have taped or dvr'd several grand slam finals and semi finals over the last few years to watch at a more convenient time for me. Then I avoided as much media and internet as I could until I'd had a chance to watch the match. This has worked suprisingly well, though it's always a bit nerve wracking hoping someone doesn't call you up and say "hey, how about that Federer upset?" I believe I've nearly always managed to not hear the results before I had a chance to watch. Hell, I have even lived on the edge a few times and visited Talk Tennis odd and ends or rants and raves before having a chance to watch the match and still avoided hearing the results.
     
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    We're so fortunate that NBC is even bothering to show us the matches! They could have bought the rights then blacked out coverage altogether. Thank god for NBC.
     
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    Viewers shouldn't be forced to bury their heads in the sand by NBC. Last year showing taped quarters and semis while live tennis was going on? Not showing the Roddick/Murray semi until it was an hour in? Then placing an embargo on ESPN not allowing them to show the matches either? It's ridiculous and enough is enough. And that's just on the East, West Coast viewers have it 3 times worse.

    Also is there any other major sporting event like this where major coverage is shown on tape delay and nothing is done about it? NBC has to listen to the concerns of tennis fans and show matches live, or else give up rights entirely. I'm 100% certain if ESPN/ABC had rights, they would not show matches taped.
     
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    Tennis is not a major sporting event.

    NBC has obviously made a business decision they think is best about what to show and when. Just because we don't like it doesn't mean it's not best for the company and their shareholders. Hell, I wish NBC would just show only my favorite movies and shows at the hour of my choosing, but I don't own the company.

    No you're not.
     
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    ESPNs coverage of the AO is awesome.
     
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    Wimbledon and French Open are both major sporting events around the world. Even though Soccer isn't huge in the US, major events are still given the courtesy and shown live. Same with Golf. But not for tennis. It's a disappointment and a shame.

    Why wouldn't they? They regularly show the British Open every year live, no problem. The difference between Golf and Tennis isn't that big here in the US. If ESPN/ABC had all coverage of RG/Wimbledon, it is pretty likely they wouldn't make the boneheaded decision NBC has of showing matches taped.

    And it's not just tennis NBC shows taped. NBC shows the Olympics taped for no good reason as well. That's not a major sporting event?

    You may be ok with NBC's coverage, but several others aren't, and that especially showed last year. Now we are trying to do something about it. It may be futile, but it's better than sitting back and doing nothing. So please take your negative attitude away from this thread.
     
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    No idea how popular they are "around the world", but NBC is an American company programming television in America. They also don't show much men's field hockey, which I understand is big in India...

    I assume ABC operates much the way NBC does, and would probably make similar business decisions in similar situations. So unless you have compelling evidence of a entirely different business model and mindset in play at ABC, the assumption should be that they would act the same as NBC.


    What makes you think they have "no good reason"? You think they just throw a dart at a dartboard when deciding when to show what?

    You seem to think everyone in the world is a tennis fan, and NBC should cater to their whims.

    Why not go over to "Talk Soap Opera" and see how they are complaining about all this stupid tennis interfering with their stories?
     
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    Whatever. This is a thread for people who don't like the way NBC is doing things. Obviously on a tennis board, a lot of people have been upset for years with the way NBC broadcasts. You are the minority as far as I'm concerned in what tennis fans feel about this issue. Like I said, we have a group and are trying to bring some sort of change, rather than just sitting and doing nothing. You coming in here and being a contrarian isn't helping matters. I'm not going to get into a R&R style p!ssing match with you over it either. (I know you're upset that's gone, but get over it). Several articles have been written about NBC's coverage of not just this and it's gotten to the point where enough is enough. If you're fine with it, that's ok. But obviously several others aren't and want something to change. That's what this thread is hopefully the start of. Something positive, not the usual negativity that you know and love.
     
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  46. I fully support this poster. :)
     
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    Who said I was fine with NBC's coverage? I'm a tennis fan. I wish they showed much more tennis, had more camera angles, and so on an so forth. So I really have no problem with your campaign to get them to do things your way. What I do have a problem with is you assuming your interests are more important than non-tennis fans, or that NBC is necesarily doing something stupid just because you don't like it.
     
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    My biggest problem with NBC is the situation on the West Coast during Wimbledon. You watch ESPN live until 9AM and then you are blacked out completely (no tennis anywhere, live or taped) until noon when NBC takes over showing what was 3 hours earlier. Especially convenient when 9.00 happens to occur in the middle of a 5th set or tiebreak. This is absolutely ridiculous.
     
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    All of the national networks would do what NBC does during the week - they would never interrupt their morning shows to show a sporting event. With golf the majors are on ESPN until the weekend. You'll never get NBC to ditch the Today Show in favor of tennis. So the best solution is for NBC to only show tennis on the weekends, and then make sure to show it live in all time zones. Maybe, just maybe NBC would forgo the Today Show on Saturday morning, but they'll never do so during the week. Let ESPN and TTC keep the weekday coverage.
     
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