French Open Prediction League! (Fifth in Series) First of the Grandslam editions!

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  1. Tennis_Maestro

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    We are in @ for the 5th in the series, this being the 2009 French Open event.... first in the Grandslam editions.

    Miami Masters prediction Champion - Shadows
    Miami Masters prediction Runner up - Tennis_Maestro
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=252020 - Miami Masters

    Monte Carlo Masters prediction Champion - Shadows
    Monte Carlo Masters prediction Runner up - Tennis_Maestro
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=254587 - Monte Carlo Masters

    Rome Masters prediction Champion's - Chelsea_Kiwi, VivalaVida, and Shadows
    Rome Masters prediction Runner up - Tennis_Maestro
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=257531 - Rome Masters

    Madrid Masters prediction Champion - Safinator_1
    Madrid Masters prediction Runner up - Tennis_Maestro
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=259191 - Madrid Masters


    FRENCH OPEN PREDICTION CHAMPION - ?????????
    FRENCH OPEN PREDICTION RUNNER UP - ?????????


    Points Scoring Rules: (MUST READ) - Slight variaton from Masters Series
    If you predict the correct winner but the wrong score in sets, you'll get two points. However, if you also nail the score line in sets, (ie, Nadal beats Murray 2 set to love) you’ll get five points. Each predictor can pick the winner and runner up of the tournament (approximately a day before the FIRST ROUND MATCH)

    Come the conclusion of the tournament – ten points will be given to each predictor that predicts BOTH the correct winner and runner up and five points for the one or the other.

    HERE'S THE SLIGHT ADDITION IN POINTS SCORING- Predictor's are also now able to take a stab @ the range in how many games shall be played in each match..

    For example...

    Nadal v Verdasco - Nadal wins 6-4, 5-7, 7-6, 6-2

    This match would've consisted of 45 games ... if someone has a prediction for the range of games for this match being 45-50 games.. they'll score an additional 5 points.

    These ranges can be from 12-17 or 66-71 even .. as long as they are within 5s.


    If you grasp a sudden urge to change one or more predictions that you may already have posted, please make a new post, so I am aware of the time it was posted and can validate that the prediction was made before the respective match / matches. (Editing posts makes matters complicated)

    Seffina is your points adjudicator!

    Overall Masters Series Prediction League Grand Leaderboard Standings:

    1. Shadows - 35 points
    2. Tennis_Maestro - 32 points
    3. Seffina - 16 points
    4. Viva_LavidA - 16 points
    5. Chelsea_kiwi - 12 points
    6.TheNatural - 11 points
    7. Safinator_1 - 10 points
    8. GJ011 - 8 1/2 points
    9. Icedevil0289 - 6 points
    10. Egn - 6 points
    10. TheDuh - 6 points
    10. JoshDragon - 6 Points
    11. JayChu - 5 1/2
    12. SliceKick - 5 points
    12. L_Gonzalez 5 points
    12. Oscar_2424 - 5 points
    13. Aphex - 4 points
    14. Shell, 3 Points
    14. Mizuno - 3 Points

    Shall work out the rest later....

    ^^From performances of the last 4 Masters Series events

    Grand Slam Event Points System:
    First place - 20 Points
    Second place - 18 Points
    Third place - 16 Points
    Fourth place - 15 Points
    Fifth place - 14 points
    Sixth place - 13 points
    Seventh place - 12 points
    Eigth place - 11 points
    Ninth place - 10 points
    Tenth place - 9 points
    Eleventh place - 8 points
    Twelth place - 7 points
    Thirteenth place - 6 points
    Fourteenth place - 5 points
    Fifthteenth place - 4 points
    Sixteenth place - 3 points
    Seventeenth place - 2 points
    Eighteenth place - 1 point
    Nineteenth place or lower - 1/2 for trying

    Please post here to Check in:
    1) Tennis_Maestro
    2) JoshDragon
    3) Shadows
    4) CocaCola
    5) Icedevil0289
    6) tudwell
    7) FedererDomination
    8 ) Egn
    9) RoddickAce
    10) Slickick95
    11) VivalaVida
    12) Jaychu
    13) jamesblakefan#1
    14) Chelsea_Kiwi
    15) gj011
    16) MizunoMX20
    17) All-rounder
    18 ) papucla10
    19) batz
    20) FlamEnemY
    21) theduh
    22) aphex
    23) fedtastic

     
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  3. JoshDragon

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    definitely in
     
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    In and can't wait...
     
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  7. tudwell

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    I'll give it a shot.
     
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    I'll try it.
     
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    I am in hopefully i won't get busy like last time.
     
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  10. Tennis_Maestro

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    Welcome FedererDomination! :D
     
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    I'm in! 10 char
     
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    Welcome RoddickAce! :D
     
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    ooh looks like we'll get another big turnout ^_^

    I've just realised I'm going to miss the second of week of wimbledon being away in france....kind of gutted xD
     
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  14. slicekick95

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    Im in. Isnt the games played thing a bit unneccessary, i mean we're already picking the amount of sets.
     
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  15. Tennis_Maestro

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    I'm trying to give this one a bit of spice considering its a Grandslam bro.

    What do most people think about it?
     
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  16. Tennis_Maestro

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    You can email me or Seffina your predictions bro, its no sweat.
     
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  17. shadows

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    I like it, I think it adds a bit extra for the GSs which is good, I also think that with a range of games being available it's not an unreasonably difficult thing to be predicting.

    Festival, I might be out cold on a beach somewhere =p
     
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  18. VivalaVida

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    I'm in. Should be epic. :)
     
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    WOOT....Roland Garros!
    count me in as well :D
     
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  20. jamesblakefan#1

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    In it to win it. Good luck to whoever's scoring. Any thought towards picking womens winner (just the finals), just for fun to see who's right, since its so wide open?
     
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  21. Chelsea_Kiwi

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    In. This should be interesting, lets try hope for a big turnout hopefully 30+.
     
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    I am signing in, but can we do without shenanigans about copying predictions, like for Madrid.

    Also all predictions have to be posted here, before the start of the match. No emails, messengers and other private channels.
    If this is not the rule I am not playing. Simply the game loses the point that way, and is not fair to everyone.

    It would be nice to increase values for later predictions (R16/QF/SF/F/W) or game will be practically decided after first couple of rounds, since most of the matches would already be played.

    And no need to add number of games ranges. Just complicates things and adds no entertainment value.
     
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  23. gj011

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    You should be in France during second week of RG :)
     
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  24. Chelsea_Kiwi

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    I agree with the bolded parts. I do think however that if the prediction copying happens again you should just make your picks at the latest time possible and/or if prediction copying continues a point penalty should be enforced.
     
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  25. gj011

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    Yes we could include women somehow. And not just for the final.
     
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    I changed my mind about scoring change. That is why I deleted it. 5 points for correct set score and 2 for winner is actually more suited for the best of five. We should maybe change scoring for the next masters, since difference between 5 and 2 points is too big for best of 3 where there are only two different results possible for the same winner.

    But I am open to change in scoring.
     
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  27. jamesblakefan#1

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    I also agree with more points for later rounds. And maybe just pick the women's matches with seeds involved???
     
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  28. MizunoMX20

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    Great job again TM!

    I like the idea of awarding points for the right amount of games, but I feel it shouldn't be as much points rewarded as when you get both winner and scoreline correct. Maybe an additional two points instead of five would be appropriorate? Otherwise I feel it would become too much of a gambling game.

    So:

    - 5 points for both winner and scoreline correct
    - 2 points for winner correct

    - + 2 points for correct amount of games


    Then for the increase value of predictions later in the tournament:

    R1: 5 or 2 + 2 or 0
    R2: 5 or 2 + 2 or 0
    R3: 5 or 2 + 2 or 0
    R4: 10 or 4 + 4 or 0
    QF: 10 or 4 + 4 or 0
    SF: 15 or 6 + 6 or 0
    F: 20 or 8 + 8 or 0


    I think it's very important to do this increased value, because we have to take into account that this is a Slam, where there will be 64 (!!!) matches played in the First round, 32 in Second and 16 in Third, which would mean the Prediction League coulld be well over after the Third Round, and that's definately not something we would want.
     
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    Haha, I seem to have my timings out huh, I'm leaving England for the second week of wimby for France where the FO happens a month earlier ><
     
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  30. slicekick95

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    I agree with gj and Chelsie, the later rounds should have more points to even things out. Also, to pick the amount of games for every single match is just too much work. I dont know, just my opinion. Maybe we could do that for the sf's and the finals.
     
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    OK I'm IN lets give it a try
     
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    I want IN. New to this.
     
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    I'm in for this one please.
     
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    In.

    I hope for a Djokovic-Federer semi...
     
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    Please count me in, didn't saw this thread due to the massive Fed Vs. Nadal Madrid whatever finals LOL!
     
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    Epic for sure! This should be a good one.
     
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  37. Chelsea_Kiwi

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    I think this number of game thing should be only used for Quarters, Semis and the Final.

    My reason for this is it make the game more interesting towards the end rather then basically it being decided already who has won. This solves the problem of more points in later rounds. Also it makes the game less complicated at the start as it is way to complicated other wise.
     
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  38. shadows

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    now that's a great suggestion, it becomes easier to try predict the scoreline in the later matches due to player familiarity and thus an extra variable will give them a bit more spice

    i like it!
     
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    Yes not a bad suggestion. We could also add women's matches from say 4th round or QF to add more possible points towards the end, if we don't wont to award more points for later round matches.
     
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  41. Chelsea_Kiwi

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    Yes I agree on the womens picks. Although it should start in the QF although would this mean before the womens draw starts we would have to pick a winner/runner-up.

    Obviously this should only be done for the Grand Slam events mainly because there isn't many masters events that have both the mens & womens playing in the same week but also because it adds a new element to Grand Slam events for this prediction league and seperates it from the Masters events.
     
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    bump for the draw being out.
     
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  43. theduh

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    I will predict the finals as early as now.

    Nadal Vs. Fed.

    Fed winner
    Nadal runner-up

    I know, I know wishful thinking it is, but it doesn't hurt.
     
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    Winner Nadal
    RU Djokovic
     
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    What's the weather like? That could seriously hurt Nole's chances. If it isn't too hot, I see him making the final, but if the weather goes against him, I see an early exit.
     
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    I'm tired of arguing about the draw. Let's make some picks!!! Schedule should be out tomorrow for sunday right? LAPENTTI IN 5 OVER DJOKOVIC!!!!!!!!!!! jk
     
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  47. CocaCola

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    Winner Djokovic
    RU Nadal
     
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  48. slicekick95

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    Come on guys, start signing up, 10 people is not enough for a grandslam!
    To Tennis Maestro: I think we are in agreement that picking the number of games for every match is a bit too match

    Also,
    Winner:Rafael Nadal
    Runner Up:Novak Djokovic
     
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    Murray FTW!! :p
     
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  50. fedtastic

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    Winner : Federer

    Runner up : Nadal

    Can't help it. I'm a Fed fan. hehe.
     
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