The classic mids are in 8.5-9 condition with scuff marks on the guards. They are 4-5/8 grip. I have pictures for those interested. firstname.lastname@example.org I want to try a St. Vincent PS6.0, in 4-3/8 grip, will consider 4-1/2 in 8.5/10 or above. They are also for sale, $140 each OBO. Thanks.