Fun Klippermate video

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  1. max

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    Good thing this is not an instructional video, this guy would have no credibility. A Head racquet done with crosses bottom-up is a cardinal sin, IMO. What a hack job.
     
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    My Klippermate stringing guide has around 20 Head racquets in it where the crosses are started from the bottom.
     
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    If so they must be the very older Head racquets, as all the newer ones Head specifies 2 piece only.Head is very specific about stringing head down, but the older Head racquets ,( Head Prestige Pro comes to mind, as one came by my way a couple months back), that instructs to string bottom up.But that is not the majority, and all of the newer Head racquets are Top-Down.
    The video racquet was a Head Liquidmetal, and all of them(Liquidmetals), are specified as starting the crosses top down only!
     
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    Besides starting the crosses at the throat, he weaves the first two crosses and double-pulls them before setting the first clamp on the crosses. He's not a good stringer at all.
     
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    FWIW I'm not defending LoJack as a stringer and I've never even touched a Head racquet in my life. I just happened to have my Klippermate Stinging Guide next to me when I read ambro's post.
     
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    WOW..a string job in 3 minutes!!! Just kidding...everyone has their preferences in stringing. I do mine from the bottom up also, but then again, I don't use HEAD
     
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    he's a noob
     
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    Hey Fatso:
    Thats no problem, as Babolat lets you string from bottom up,so does Wilson,its that there are many others that you are not to do so.
     
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    Even if they let you is it still better to string from the top down?
     
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    Well, I just do two piece on pretty much everything, so I always do top to bottom.
     
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    I will look at this again, I thought he was doing an around-the-world pattern.
     
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    He also pulls the length of the crosses through a grommet, then weaves, having to pull the same length of crosses through two times.
     
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    I do mine in 2 pieces sometimes and 1 piece in other time just to mix it up and see which fits my playing style better (I tend to get bored of same kind of string/stringing style pretty frequently).
     
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    Weaves the first two crosses and double-pulls

    Weaves the first two crosses and double-pulls:
    is just FINE for FLYING CLAMPS USERS,
    first two crosses are just SHORTEST in length.
    and FLYING CLAMPS need to clamp both tensioned strings.
    NOT a BIG DEAL at all for FLYING CLAMPS USERS.
     
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    WHY do you capitalize RANDOM words THAT ARE not significant?

    Type like a normal person please, much easier to read.
     
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    Crosses, because they are woven through the mains, have a lot of friction that won't tighten up that first cross when the first two crosses are pulled together. It would just take another 30 seconds to put a piece of scrap string on the empty side of the clamp and give that first cross an honest pull. Yeah, it probably doesn't make too much difference since you don't usually hit balls on the first two crosses (at least not intentionally), but the kid is a bit smug with "That's how it's done" at the end of the video, so it's fair game to point out all potential problems.
     
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    You're right, double pulling the first 2 crosses is no problem. I used to add 4 lbs for the initial 2 crosses to counter the tension loss but hundreds of string jobs has shown me this is unnecessary. Double pulling those 2 crosses has negligible impact on stringbed playability.

    Actually, I like the video. Shows how there is no real mystery to stringing and also shows how easy it is to use a Klippermate. Many sceptics have claimed how the tension gripper jaws system on the Klippermate is inferior to drum/clutch tensioning systems on X-2, Swing etc. Video shows how easy it is to feed the string through the jaws and get the rod to near horizontal. It is a different way to grip the string while applying tension, but is just as effective, and with a little practice, just as quick as a drum/clutch.

    I say, well done LoJack, good on you for puting a vid on the tube where everyone can have a crack at you. And the end product looks good enough to play with - better than quite a few pro shop jobs I've seen!!
     
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    He doesn’t seem very consistent with regard to where that drop weight ends up when doing those crosses. Hard to gage the dwell time too, but it’s probably not much. The assistant popping in and out cracks me up though. Not sure what the point of the production is as the fast action video technique kind of makes it hard to glean any useful stringing techniques.
     
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    He gets the tension rod to within about 10 degrees of horizontal just about every time which is fine.

    It'd be great if every critic would upload their videos so we could critique them. Any takers?
     
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    I'd definitely do it if I had a camera that was able to record a video of me. I don't though...
     
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    I would but my camera sucks.
     
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    I can't be sure but this frame looks like a LM Instinct. 2 piece required.
     
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    He says it's an Instinct and it looks like one. I was surprised by the one-piece method there.
     
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    That's the way the Klippermate instruction manual tells to do it. I've got one in the basement and could type it word-for-word if I wasn't comfortably lazy at this particular moment!
     
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    Yeah, I found a copy of the Klipper instructions and I see they tell you to double pull the first two crosses, but I don't necessarily agree with it. The Silent Partner Swing manual tells you to pull the first cross separately, putting a piece of scrap string in the other side of the clamp. That's not perfect either, because you're not clamping to a tensioned string, and it's only the teeth of the clamp pushing sideways on the mains that hold it in place. So it's less than perfect either way you go, but I think the Swing method gives you a better chance at being close to your reference tension on the first cross.
     
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